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|Henry: It's all good - so no hard feelings?|
Henry - I enjoy your observations...they get me thinking. And they get me doing a bit of research at times...all good! Don't clam up and go mad!!! :)|
Off Topic - we have one scent sensitive gal at work who complained that my hair smelled too clean. I had washed it hours before I came into work for my 3 to 11 shift. I told her - no worries...I will come to work with dirty hair next shift. When she got a bit flustered (not thinking I would stand up to her) I asked if she could tell me what shampoo she used to wash her hair with and that perhaps all staff should use it! I don't understand how I can come to work clean without having at least some scent. The worst part is that she wears Musk perfume but defends that by saying that it is a natural oil!!!! Aye carumba!
Hey Jude from BC (at 188.8.131.52) wrote on May 22, 2013, 20:28: |
Julie: I've been wondering the same thing. I don't mind reading someone's comments here and there when they have a beef with the show (we all have the right to do that), but he does seem to be watching just so he can pick it apart. I wouldn't bother watching either if I thought it was THAT BAD. :)
Julie from Windsor (at 184.108.40.206) wrote on May 22, 2013, 20:01:
Henry: Do you actually enjoy watching the show or you sit there waiting for some continuity error to happen?
Either way I don't care....But why would you watch a show that is so bad that the ONLY thing you can find to talk about are the mistakes?
Dear Julie and Hey Jude : I can assure you that I LOVE Coronation Street. I have not missed an episode in over 25 years. I was merely trying to have a bit of fun by pointing out inconsistancies and sloppiness that, in my opinion, there is no need for. I will admit, though, that lately I do tend to look for them as I find it's becoming more of a norm rather than an occasional mistake. It's sort of like having a scab ; you know you should leave it alone but you can't help picking at it !!!
We have a "No Scent" policy at work. If 19 people don't mind your perfume and one does, guess what? No more perfume. So, I'll keep my little fixation to myself from now on. This may result in me going completely mental a little bit sooner than otherwise, however.
I don't mind the GB critics or those that criticize them. |
I am hoping the writers will give us viewers a little more respect if we speak up.
It is disturbing when the story is no longer true to the Corrie we enjoyed. We are here because of the charm and substance of the characters and story of the street. We are not just any old soap opera viewers, who will accept whatever garbage is on tv. We love Corrie because it has touched our hearts through the years. It is special to us, and that should be remembered, if they want to keep the audience past Corrie writers earned.
I am interested in the details that others share, and want to hear from all of you. Again, thanks for the tips about our Actors showing up somewhere else, or other brit shows. Love it.
Lynn, I agree with a number of your comments. I have never liked the character of David and I also find the Price women intolerable. |
What I love about this guestbook is reading all the different comments and opinions.
I find Mark and Henry's comments interesting and informative.
A couple of comments about the show - why aren't Stella and Karl looking for work? Surely they could get bar work somewhere? How can Stella sell a burned out pub? Why is a physiotherapist working in a corner shop surely she could find something in the medical field.
Regarding David's question to Gail, "Do you think the baby will look like me?":
Results of a recent study have just been released regarding this question, which
seems to be the most common question new parents want answered. If the dad
hears that the child looks like him, this study shows, he is more likely to be
protective and supportive of the child and less likely to have an affair while the
child is young. The mom is not so much affected by whom the child takes after.
Interesting, eh? |
|Thanks Henry for answering my question. I didn't make it to the GB yesterday and it took a while to catch up this morning. AS die hard fans of many years we are Corrie's "family". As such we should be able to critique as well as praise. I have never heard Henry trash Corrie - he merely points out the glaring inconsistencies - as he is entitled to. I can overlook a great deal and suspend belief up to a point but lately the glitches are getting more frequent and sillier. Mostly I have agreed with every word he wrote. Lets face it a GB that was all praise and no bitching would be a boring board indeed. I miss Marie - Used to tear my hair out sometimes but I still miss her.|
|People and situations change but continuity is important IMO. I am not a detail sort, I look at the big picture but I very much appreciate those who are attentive to the little things. Different topic: David has become the upstanding family man working hard and fussing over his family but I do not like him, never have and maybe will warm up to him someday??. But remember a few short years ago, I believe he won "Best Villain" and I cannot warm up to him despite his reformation. So he went from a nasty little twit who pushed his mother down the stairs to the good guy we see now. It makes me think that much could be done with Kirstie if she ever made a return. Not that I wish to see her any time soon but villain to good guy is not uncommon. Karl is another one, they could send him into a monastery and make a new man out of him but I doubt I could ever warm up to him. I still believe that the Price women are the dumb to the nth degree, another bunch I cannot warm up to. Who can you never warm up to despite a reformation? Michelle's hair was "interesting", sure got our attention. I reserve judgment. Maybe they have a new hair stylist who is going to experiment a bit and there are some lovely girls with great hair to do some fun stuff with.|
Thanks, Jan. British humour really does tickle my funnybone and I can't get
enough of it. |
Stress is truly destructive, isn't it? Glad to hear that your hubby is able to control his condition with meds and relaxation, but don't count out your contribution in his recovery!
Vixen13: I have a video called Part Two, The Last Wedding. That's the one |
with Keith Duffy. It's nowhere near as funny as the later ones. You may be
able to find it in an Irish /British shop.
As for David's epilepsy....my husband has a form of epilepsy, but not like
David's. It is however often triggered by stress, which would truly explain
why David has had a reccurance of a seizure. Hubby's seizures are well
under control now, thanks to meds and fantastic neurologist, and
retirement. However, the side effects of long-time use of meds has left his
thinking skills compromised and he has aphasia, where he can't remember
the names of things. Somehow we cope with this, but it is not easy.
Variety is the spice of life. Part of the charm of the GB lies in the different
ideas and views expressed, as well as in getting a contrasting perspective
from our own. If we all thought the same way the world would be very boring
and routine. We would not have to converse with one another because we’d
already know the landscape. |
People are analyzing Coronation Street, a much delved soap, through their own filters and I see this, not as complaining, but as critical thinking, which is one of the upper level thinking skills. We need more of this in the world. I hope those original thinkers who share their thoughts here on the GB are not driven away because others may not agree with their conclusions. Come back, Henry!
|Mark, I have been here before, but I mainly just lurk. Thanks for the welcome anyway. I PVR Corrie now because I find that some of the stories are beyond belief. Karl should have been found out by now. The whole Windass story is crazy. But I won't stop watching, I have been a fan since it first came to Canada way back in the sixties, I was only 10.|
Instead of complaining about another poster's posts why not start your own topic related to Corrie. |
Is that too hard to do?
|I have to wait to see today's episode at midnight. Nice to hear from you all, Sheila, Terry, Mark, Gail, and at least 5 others ( my memory can only hold a few names correctly sometimes). Nice to have the new emoticons, thank you.|
Just finished watching the game, come on here and what do I see, discussion about penguins aargh!! :-(|
Gail - I agree. I've often thought, why don't some of the more rabid people that find errors, write to the show for an explanation. (Like I have for example)
I will say though, Henry is good with details, and takes some weight off me at times and that's welcome.
Lots of times though, people make assumptions about mistakes, and they themselves are mistaken and that's not fair, as the producers cannot defend themselves if no one informs them. But human nature I guess.
I think that we need to remember that to the writers, writing for Coronation Street is just a job. They may not have been fans of the show before they got that job, and I think it's pretty much impossible for them to memorize 50+ years of history. Yes, there should be people around whose job it is to make sure there aren't errors in the history of the show, or in scene continuity, but it isn't always going to happen. It's even possible for some of us to mis-remember events that happened just a few years ago. I find it funny how the errors on small details can make the whole thing less believable - and how once we've noticed an error, we can't just let it go.|
I hung some pictures recently, and today I noticed that one of them is maybe half an inch lower than it should be, so the spacing isn't even. Now that's the only thing I see. I'm pretty sure I'll be rehanging that picture in the next day or two. I bet no-one else in the house has noticed. So it's not just television shows that we manage to obsess over.
|Sheila: thanks for all the new emoticons!|
|You all seemed to enjoy the new emoticons so much that I found time to put more up during the hockey game tonight. They are in the "Extras" section of the Emoticons page. You penguin lovers will want to take a look. I also included some foods, since we seem to talk about food a lot. Have fun!|
|I'm willing to overlook some inconsistencies, but sometimes I think the writers have poorer memories than the viewers. Or maybe they think we're too stupid to notice they've contradicted themselves. However we're not and we notice everything. A few errors are bound to occur in any show, but lately there seem to be more of them. Maybe the writers are working under pressure to turn out shows too quickly.|
I like to complain about the writing sometimes. That's why I'm here! I also comment on good acting and characters I enjoy sometimes. I thought that's what people do on a guest book and we all have different opinions and like and dislike different characters. That's what keeps things interesting IMO.|
As for the money, I thought the the second cheque Stella wrote for 15 grand bounced.
I didn't understand much of the first five minutes tonight, since everyone talked so fast.
|Hello Corrie writing department, my name is Gail, you're writing is sloppy...|
|Welcome to the Guestbook Jayne and keep on posting.|
|Vixen, fair enough. Then instead of complaining about it here on the GB why don't those who have issues with the writers call them on it. Write to them and bring the issue up with them and see what they have to say. Endless discussion about it on the GB isn't going to change anything. If they don't hear from dissatisfied fans who still keep watching, how are they supposed to know they are dissatisfied? I'm sure they must welcome mail from the fans. Just a well intentioned suggestion before anyone decides to bite my head off LOL|
|Just had to try this one out. I love penguins.|
I liked how Sylvia put Rita back in her place with her comment about where will Rita spend her afternoons.
I hope when David finds out Kylie cheated on him, he goes and has an affair with Katy.
They look good together.
Thank-you Vixen13, you put it so much better than I could. If you care for a series you want it to be the best it can be not 2nd or 3rd best or just good enough.|
OMNI SPOILER David did a fairly convencing seizure at the end of today's episode. Having taken Joseph with them will add to the drama and envolve more families. Wonder how Max will find help.
|Henry the “detail man” - keep on posting !|
Henry is a “detail man” and we’ve all requested, relied on and enjoyed details and facts from his amazing Coronation Street repertoire. How can there be criticism of him when he puts out details that show sloppy, weak, inconsistent writing. The writers who create Coronation Street are professionals who should take pride in producing excellent episodes each time out. When they paint themselves into a corner and then extricate themselves in a lazy fashion by recreating the past, the true fan is jarred. We want excellence, not mediocrity. Shades of the "dream" year on Dallas which signalled the beginning of the end. |
To answer the question posed twice, I draw a parallel to hockey fans who support the home team even tho’ it continually loses. Those fans have suggestions and criticisms about what happens on the ice but would never abandon their team because they’re always hoping things will get better.
|Judging from the "Coming Up" page from a few days ago, I'd say it's safe to say David does have more probs with his epilepsy problems.|
Pearl I think David's neurological problems are due to fatigue.|
When I had to go do a test for epilepsy to check if that was the cause of my night tremors I had to be sleep deprived 24 hours going to the test.
I stayed up all night editing my Rocky Balboa film collection.
Henry thank you for explaining about Stella's payments to Owen.
Keep on posting the details you notice. I like it.
So to recapitulate...
Payment no 1: 10 000
Payment no 2: 15 000
Total Owen received from Stella: 25 000
I thought Owen could mortagage the house Anna is living in.
Finish the pub and then sell it.
|It's 5 pm, exit the room, get on a bus and go watch Corrie.|
|Julie: I've been wondering the same thing. I don't mind reading someone's comments here and there when they have a beef with the show (we all have the right to do that), but he does seem to be watching just so he can pick it apart. I wouldn't bother watching either if I thought it was THAT BAD. :)|
Henry: Do you actually enjoy watching the show or you sit there waiting for some continuity error to happen?|
Either way I don't care....But why would you watch a show that is so bad that the ONLY thing you can find to talk about are the mistakes?
Thank you, Jan, for steering me to Mrs. Brown's Boys. I had not heard of this series until you posted. I went to YouTube to see if I could find Series 1 Episode 1, but could only find an 80 second teaser which was hilarious! I like to see a series from the beginning so that I can get all the back stories, but the earliest episode I could find on YouTube was Series 1 Episode 6. I'll extend my search and if I'm not successful, I'll start with Episode 6. Thanks again! |
Just noticed that the link to the smiley in the instructions for the emoticons is no longer working. Guess I've got some housework to do on that page! Why is it that doing one job creates 3 more?|
Sharon - I fixed your penguin for you. Thanks for finding my mistake so quickly! |
Hey Jude, Gail: Loved Michelle's hair too. My daughter loved it when she first appeared last night...and she would know more than me!|
I'm glad that the scraped back, on top of the head, ponytail in a sock thingy is going out of style..Both Michelle and Kylie had longer ponytails last night. Is the U.K still mildly ahead in the fashion stakes?
Guys need not respond to this....unless you wish of course.
|Just realized there was another aspect to Daphne question that was not addressed. So, yes, Stella gave Owen a cheque for 10K to get him started. There is no way in the world that the cheque bounced. Owen would have stopped work immediately. So he has been paid at least 10K, and I believe I have heard Stella say at least once that she has given him 15K. Only the latest cheque (for 1K ?) bounced.|
|It was answered three posts later.|
A while back, Daphne posted:|
The other thing that is irritating me almost beyond reason is this idea that Stella has not paid anything and all the money came out of Owen's pocket. I am positively sure that Stella said she would pay Owen to get started on the repairs. I don't remember the amount but thought it was £10,000 at least. We all thought she was stupid paying before she heard from the Insurance and also choosing Owen who she knows overcharges. The story is out that she hasn't paid anything and I am finding it annoying. As she is not correcting this rumour does this mean I have it all wrong and imagined it all or is this another case of writer forgetfulness? I know the second cheque she gave him was NSF but I never heard that the first one was. TerryM I need your input here so that I can sleep at night:-) I'd like to know the answer to this one too. Or, if it has been answered please let me know.
Good point Mark regarding David's epiepsy, the same thought popped into my head. The stress of 2 jobs and fussing over Kylie like she is made of fine china could bring on a reacurance and lots of stories for the Platts. It could lead to testing the baby when born which could reveal a different blood type etc.|
Actually I liked the "dead black cat" on Michelle's head. She was looking very attractive in the Bistro. It always makes me wonder what she see in Steve who was acting the jerk as per usual.
|Just catching up .... I really liked Michelle's hair last night, and as you said Gail, she is so pretty, she could just about get away with any look out there! I also agree that most people on Corrie are using their debit cards or VISA, or whatever to pay for their drinks, just like most of us do in real life!LOL :)|
|Teri - Izzy's flat is on Grayling Street. It's obviously nearby, but I don't think we've ever been told just exactly where it is.|
Vixen13: Death in Paradise is a great series, lots of dry humour. Indeed, Keith Duffy played a pirate/bandmember. He can also be seen in older videos of Mrs. Brown's Boys, where he plays the part of the daughter's policeman boyfriend.|
There are also a number of other British actors on D.in P.
|Haili, I also liked Michelle's hair do. But she's so beautiful she can carry off just about anything! As far as being skint yet still having money to eat and drink out, you got it when you said they have to interact. Can't we just pretend they put it all on plastic and pay the minimum balance every month? Lots of people do that or they would never be able to go out or have vacations!|
|Stella ran a pub. And not only the Rovers, but at least one before that. She has multiple skills. Why can't she get a job as more than **SPOILER** a cleaner in the Bistro. Also, Karl has already gone through all the jobs on the street. Aren't there any other streets with available jobs?|
|Just thinking about one place on the street that nearly everyone goes to but we never see the interior of nor staff of is the chippy's. Might be a good place to bring in some much needed new characters. (Can't remember if it is the same chippy's that Cilla worked at...)|
|My penguin didn't work|
|Oh my goodness, new emoticons! . I'm really chuffed. Penguins are to me what giraffes are to Sheila Off to cool off now ....... As far as that lot on the street right now I've got very little good to say about any of them...they seem to be a right annoying lot.|
That's so true about Anna using Roy's cafe just as if it was her house. She drops everything to talk to Owen and the gang but Michelle used to do the same thing in the Rovers. Everyone is skint but they all have money to eat and drink out - though if they didn't we wouldn't see them interacting with each other.|
I thought Michelle looked kind of cute with that hair do.
Thanks to Mark, I've gotten a few new emoticons. They've been added to the "NEW" page - but at the bottom because I didn't take the time to move them to the top. Hope you enjoy them - and let me know if you find any errors with them. I didn't test them all! |
|Vixen13 and everyone, nevermind Karl getting a job, I think Stella and even Gloria should try and get work to contribute until their pub is rebuilt as well ( janitor at a hospital or old folks home, train as a nursing assistant, take on bookeeping work, a cooking job, work at the knicker factory sewing, drive taxi, nanny for someone, etc..... something. They are quite fit, so quite employable. If not, they should get EI or welfare of some sort and hand over what they can ( go to church and hope for help), hit the foodbanks, quit drinking and smoking ( cut down if they can't).|
Jeez..poor Roy, his cafe is used like it's Anna's house when she's at work. Everytime you turn around either Owen's there or Gary and now Tim and Faye.|
Speaking of Roy..I say Haley retrieves the letter from the bin and tries to talk Roy into seeing his Father. Can't believe Sylvia was NOT going to let on to Roy about the letter. haha.. had to laugh at Leanne tonight when she told Gloria she wasn't going to be there for the engagement celebration at The Bistro..WHERE SHE WORKS! Mark...hahahahahahahaha a dead black cat on Michelle's head!!! hahahahahaha
I watched an episode of Death in Paradise -- first time I saw it, in fact -- and heard a recognizable voice whose owner was under full face make up, portraying the member of a band. Sure enough, it was Keith Duffy (a.k.a., Ciaran McCarthy). I'd never seen him in anything but Coronation Street. |
In yesterday's episode when Karl asked Stella what he could do to help, I just wanted to shout at him, "Get a job!" He's such a user. Always sucking on a beer that someone else is paying for. What a waste of skin!
|And I forgot to say that Michelle looked like a black cat died on her head.|
omni spoiler ***
I found it weird that Gloria was all surprised that Stella
was in debt and no longer had money.
Why was Gloria asking Leanne a few nights ago to invest in the pub if she didn't Stella had no money?
Let's not forget that David has epilepsy.
He might a developed another neurological condition
brought on because he took too much melatonin.
Melatonin isn't candy.
Then there's Gary worried about his finances drinking beer.
|I found it odd that Gloria would invite Rita and Dennis to celebrate Stella and Karl's engagement. Unless something else has happened that I missed, I only remember Gloria being kind of snippy to Rita...|
I don't get why Nick doesn't understand why Leanne doesn't want Stella to marry Karl. Surely he knows about him gambling away her money and then the affair with Sunita. Then there's Anna who gets all high and mighty about Stella not paying Owen when she did the same thing to Joe with the kitchen cupboards.|
David's health seems pretty fragile these days. It was nice to see Audrey back.
so which street has not been specified ?
it was seen again today - guessed it was close by and wondered just where
I can understand Owen getting ticked off after the Champers in the local bistro tonight.I would have been hopping mad myself seeing that.
Looks like Izzy is getting jealous-'er'....ahem....by the second....Not sure if it's going to happen, but I really want Tina and Tommy to get back together.
Teri ... they live on another street nearby. Izzy's flat is on the ground floor. We saw it when Gary went bonkers and was holding Izzy captive.
|where do Gary & Izzy live ??|
|Mark: Melatonin....Please take it....For all of our sakes....LOL|
My Corrie dream: Lloyd was in my dream with other people.|
Something about going to an exercise room like in high school with barbells and benches.
It's 5 pm ! Get up and go home to watch Corrie.
Yes but what about the Ring Gary gave Tina?
The ring dring dring.
|What's NOT what...sorry|
Vixen: You are so right! I have a neighbour that always calls me and then starts the coversation with " Well, you know I don't gossip right...?" I cringe every time because I know what coming...|
BUT...She doesn't gossip....she told me that before she started....too funny.
Experts tell us that we often find fault with others in the exact areas we are lacking; the defects we criticize in others often mirror our own deficits. This principle was so evident in last night’s episode when Sally and Gail were gossiping with Norris. They put him down as a rumourmonger and “tittle tattler”, to use his own words, a busybody not worth their time. However, they took the information he offered and moved with it. Gail even offered to go along to Stella’s with Sally to get the scoop. Sally tried to ferret information from Stella regarding the reason for no insurance payout and was very insulted when Karl suggested she was a quidnunc which is her to a T. Those two gals have been catalysts in so many street situations, caused so much pain to others and continue to do so. They, indeed, looked like two hungry vultures waiting for the kill. |
|Thank you so much Henry - I'll have to YouTube those - hate missing episodes!|
November 19 (UK)|
"At home, Tyrone is cooing with the baby when there's a knock on the door. Tommy has come to give Tyrone another payment. Tyrone is concerned that there's so much and he doesn't know where Tommy's got it from. Tommy assures him there's nothing dodgey about it. They say goodbye awkwardly. Inside, Tyrone looks regretful."
November 16, 2nd episode (UK)|
"Gary makes a joke about how sad it is to see a guy playing darts on his own. Tommy doesn't find it funny however, and practically throws the darts right through the board. Gary goes off to buy him a drink, and Owen hands him an envelope of money. He tells him it is because of Tina's positive test, that he hopes it will make their life a bit easier, as he doesn't want Tina living on baked beans now she is carrying his grandchild."
|Sharon: I did not see that episode either...Woah...Anybody know when it was so that we look it up. Why would Owen be giving Tommy cash like that?...Makes no sense.|
|Thanks Henry - I did not see that episode - missed it entirely! Why on earth would Tommy just hand it over to Tyrone??? It's not his to give! So would that have been the second or final installment? Sorry to be so dense!|
|Henry: you are right! The writers should pay more attention to details. Isn't there someone in charge of continuity? If there isn't there should be. Now I wonder if Tommy is going to give Tina some of the money back since it was his debt she was paying even though he was against it.|
|Hey Sharon. Owen gave Tommy another "installment" in the Rovers. Tommy was playing darts and Owen handed him an envelope full of cash. I remember thinking at the time that it was odd he gave it to Tommy as, by rights, the money was Tina's and he was overstepping his mark. At that point in time, however, Tommy had completely gone off the whole idea and I think Owen was trying to manipulate him. Tommy brought the entire envelope over to Tyrone's house. Tyrone was worried about how Tommy had gotten so much cash.|
This is my recollection of the whole surrogacy money plot...|
Tina and Tommy borrowed £9,000 from Tyrone. They paid some of it back in instalments. When Tina agreed to the surrogacy for £15,000, Owen gave her £5,000 up front and would give her another £5,000 when it was confirmed she was pregnant (which we are to assume happened)and the final £5,000 after the birth.That's why Owen said he'd find her money somehow when it became apparent that he wouldn't be paid for the Rovers. She gave Kirsty £3,000 that we know of and paid £2,000 for the van Tommy wrecked. Whether or not they paid back any more to Tyrone hasn't been mentioned, but Tyrone said recently that they need not worry about it. So Tina has spent at least £5,000 of the £10,000 she's received so far.
Again, that's just the way I recall it!
Daphne, here's a quote from an episode update from April.|
"She's had to get three quotes and is hesitant because the last time he tried to rip her off. But seeing as he's the local builder in the show you know he'll get the contract and she offers him 10 grand to start off, with the rest coming when the insurance is settled. Which it isn't yet. She hasn't had the approval from the insurance company but wants to start anyway."
So, your memory is correct.
|Henry, thrice Amen!!|
|Re the insurance payout - would the insurance company really just not pay it? And, if that's the case, why is the issue "closed", cut and dry?|
Henry - Amen also!|
The other thing that is irritating me almost beyond reason is this idea that Stella has not paid anything and all the money came out of Owen's pocket. I am positively sure that Stella said she would pay Owen to get started on the repairs. I don't remember the amount but thought it was £10,000 at least. We all thought she was stupid paying before she heard from the Insurance and also choosing Owen who she knows overcharges. The story is out that she hasn't paid anything and I am finding it annoying. As she is not correcting this rumour does this mean I have it all wrong and imagined it all or is this another case of writer forgetfulness? I know the second cheque she gave him was NSF but I never heard that the first one was. TerryM I need your input here so that I can sleep at night:-)
Pearl Commented :|
To add to the confussion surounding the sorrogacy payment, Tina stated to Gary that she "has the money Owen gave me in a saving account". What?? Have the writers forgotten she was taking the money to clear Tommy's debts. Does he still owe the pizza co. and Tyrone?
haili replied : Pearl: I also wondered about Tina and the money. It's very confusing and I thought Henri had straightened it all out but it seems that there's more than we thought. There is no real confusion here. The money that Tina received from Owen was ALL paid out. There is no more to it than that. The problem is lazy writing for the sake of convenience. This type of thing annoys the cr@p out of me. It destroys the appeal of the show to me. Now, some people will immediately reply that "it's just a show" and "I don't let little details like that spoil it for me". You know who you are so, please, don't bother. Coronation Street was the one soap that ALWAYS rang true. People never had a son one day and the next they didn't. Things didn't happen and then not happen. We saw that money be paid out. Now we are expected to believe that we didn't see it !!!!!
|Yes, I agree about David but then again, I'm finding all the characters annoying these days! Stella, Karl, Owen, Anna, Tracy, Rob, Carla and Peter... That's one unhappy street, for sure. Even Tina, who is supposedly doing something out of the goodness of her heart doesn't seem all that enthused. Come on Corrie writers, give your collective heads a shake and start fixing some of the doorbells on the street and waking some people up to get on with a more "real" life storylines - somewhat like it used to be!|
Until the Rovers re-opens we just have to suspend disbelief and assume people can afford to eat at the Bistro - or that the Platts get a family discount. As for Anna yelling, that's become the norm. with her and she is a hypocrite, forgetting how the were with Joe. At least we've been spared her emoting over Faye lately. I think Tracy and Rob kind of suit each other.|
David does make a big fuss over Kylie and the pregnancy but that's what Corrie has been all about in the past year or so. You would think that pregnancy was a new invention. I have no idea how we all managed in the days before classes and scans but somehow we did and the husband's part in the whole thing didn't take long! If he got the wife to the hospital on time and showed up with flowers later, his duty was done.
|Is it just me or does anyone else find the character of David incredibly annoying. The way he hovers over Kylie telling Nick to call an ambulance because she felt the baby kicking (I did think Kylie's reaction to the kick was way over the top). Why don't they attend prenatal classes David might actually learn something. Like some other posters have commented I don't understand how they can afford to constantly eat in the Bistro the same night that Nick had asked David to work saying they were fully booked yet there were Gail, David, Kylie and Max all seated at the table. I also thought Anna made a fool of herself screeching at Karl and Stella.|
|Terry M - "That baby looks like Lyndon Johnson" and Jerry said that the baby looks like a Pekinese...|
Henry: The meetings are basically 'a race', Not necessarily horses but could be a multitude of race 'meets'...speedway, dogs.etc.|
Did she really accept his proposal tonight?......EWE
Angie: Hands off Keef...He's all mine...LOL
|TerryM, 'Now THAT'S a baby!!'|
|Mark - Funny you should say that, as if I remember rightly Diana Dors was known as 'England's Marilyn Monroe.' Diana was married to Richard Dawson (Family Feud) for a while.|
RE: Anna complaining to Stella about her putting Owen out of business by not paying.
Errr... Remember Joe? Remember not paying Joe... Remember not caring if Joe lost his business?
What comes around goes around says Bad Karmen.
|Welcome to the Guestbook Lola|
Terry that's a nice souvenir of Diana Dors.|
She reminds me of Marilyn.
I only met Myrna Loy via the TV.
Maybe 2 decades ago they were showing several movies of her and William Powell once a week.
I was smitten by her look and style and I kept talking about her to my Dad.
And he answered, "you know she's 80 years old now".
Julie I agree with you 100%, I too like Keith Richards!
I hope one day before its too late to see them perform.
I read both Keith's and Mick's books, what a colourful life they have had.
TerryM: thanks! I couldn't think of Minnie's name but Gail kind of reminded me of her. I also got a laugh at David's remarks to Marcus about whether he was gay or straight or whatever.|
Pearl: I also wondered about Tina and the money. It's very confusing and I thought Henri had straightened it all out but it seems that there's more than we thought.
Many funny scenes in today's episode. 1. the change on Sally's and Gail's faces while Norris was filling them in on happening at the Rovers. From shock, concern to malicious glee at the prospect of learning more from Stella. 2. Carla's face when David was talking to Marcus about his wife's "bits & pieces". 3. another fun family get together with Peter, Carla, Rob and Tracy. Wasn't Marcus lucky to be invited to join them? lol!!
Seriously have the door bells at both #13 & #6 broken or is it just more dramatic to pound on the door? To add to the confussion surounding the sorrogacy payment, Tina stated to Gary that she "has the money Owen gave me in a saving account". What?? Have the writers forgotten she was taking the money to clear Tommy's debts. Does he still owe the pizza co. and Tyrone? Guess with the money tree on the Red Rec ever producing he could (or has) prune it.
|A bit off topic - Anyone remember the Seinfeld episode with the ugly baby and Kramer's reaction? lol.|
|Haili - Minnie Caldwell|
|A great aunt of mine had a pat answer for people cooing over a baby and wondering which parent it looked like. She used to say, "Ah phooey, it's better looking than either one of them."|
I didn't find David's question unrealistic since it's natural to wonder who the baby will look like. He's so excited about the whole thing and is bound to come down to earth when he finds out the truth - and we know he will!
What can we say about the bimbo Stella? Owen gets half the pub and she wants to marry Karl, who is just as likely to gamble away the other half, but some people are slow learners.
Gail and Sally reminded me of the old ladies who were on at the beginning of the show: Ena and the other lady - not Martha - the one with the cat.
"Today's most sad and funny dialogue had to be David and Gail:|
David: Do you think the baby will look like me?
Gail: pauses for a beat then says, "I hope so." "
Most sad and funny and non-credible dialogue. Who the heck asks that question? Does David think Gail is psychic? The only reason to ask that question is a writer's reason - to increase the pressure on Gail. I didn't find it realistic at all.
SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN MAY 20 CORRIE:
Today's most sad and funny dialogue had to be David and Gail:
David: Do you think the baby will look like me?
Gail: pauses for a beat then says, "I hope so."
|Pearl from BC: You got the idea. If we didn't know Tina so well I think she would fit the description better. But she looks the part I think.|
|I know I know I have said this before but again how can people who are broke and with a capital B I might ad. Afford a holiday, a laptop, earrings, eating/drinking at the Bistro and most of all how does Eva "have so many clothes she can't fit them in her suitcase" I mean come on people they "lost everything in the fire" do the writers think we don't watch this show? How does Karl have a credit card? He doesn't even have a job..... Grrrrr.... just venting. Happy Victoria Day|
|I think Peter sends Rob to the evening races or "meetings" (part of the job of a bookie to get a feel of the horses) to get up Rob's nose. Send him out so he cannot spend as much time with his lady. Ha lady! I mean Tracey.|
|I'd say the meetings are race meetings. We don't use that terminology in North America so much as they do in GB.|
Selby I just have to ask, what is "listerine dipped"? I'm guessing squicky clean or sanitized which could apply to Katy. She comes accross as pure or nieve according to your point of view, but Tina not so much. Lovely expression!|
I've been assuming that Peter's late meetings are AA or equivilant. Whether he goes or not it is a gold plated excuse for not being able to work the late shift.
Pronunciations of St. John's:|
- Saint John's
- Sin Jawn's
- Sin Jaawwnn's (as said by a local tv reporter)
- Town (referred to by baymen)
Thanks, Henry. I love The Republic of Doyle and am fascinated by the beauty of Sinjin's and Newfoundland, as well as by the local Newfie accent which sounds relatively foreign to those of us western Canada. Shades of John Crosbie! |
Sinjen's, of course. What else??|
Seriously, I had to do some checking on the Sinjen thing. It's only pronounced that way when used as a first name. You if there was a St. John St. John, he would call himself Sinjen St. John. Same thing with St. Clair. As a first name it's pronounced Sinclair.
Musings and mutterings on a Monday morning:
* Happy Victoria Day, everyone!
* Thanks for the info, LIsa.
* I, too, Mark, hope we see the humorous scenes with Kylie and David continue, tho' methinks all the sniping from Gail is foreshadowing a revelation from her regarding David/Nick/Kylie/baby. She is such a pot stirrer and just can't keep a confidence! Exit humour, enter chaos! |
* Craig is such an interesting character who could be developed into a humour-filled, but sadness-tinged story line. I hope it's pursued.
* As for the return of Kirsty Soames, I think it's a possibility because she had such a compelling storyline that drew in viewers and writers would want to milk this. I don't think she'd have the same attraction for fans if she evolved into a reformed nasty. Tyrone and Fiz deserve a little happiness, so I hope Kirsty doesn't reappear too soon.
* Henry, how do you pronounce the name of your home town, St. John's?
* Thanks for checking in, Shirley. Lurk on!
|Can someone familiar with the bookmaking trade please explain what the "meetings" are that Peter is scheduling Rob on late at night?|
|Henry: thanks for the info. re. Tina and the money. Owen doesn't owe her that much then. I wondered why he didn't go the legal route and put a mechanic's lien on the Rovers. Isn't that what contractors do when they don't get paid? He could end up owning the place, or a share in it. He must know about all this since he's been in business for awhile. I can understand him being angry at Stella who never should have hired him in the first place when she didn't know if she'd get the money. She also should have had a few quotes before hiring him but this is the woman who was lied, cheated and had a share of the place gambled away by Karl and then thinks it's a good idea to take him back.|
|For those wondering about the payments to Tina for the surragacy. The agreed price was 15,000 pounds payable in three installments. Tina has received two installments which she used to pay off the pizza shop owner (2K for Tommy wrecking the van) and the rest went to Tyrone to help repay the loan (the money that Terry left with). So she has 5K coming which she gets to spend on herself. The loan from Tyrone is not completely repaid, but that should be solely Tommy's responsibility now.|
|Hi everyone, just lurking this weekend.|
|I'd welcome the return of Natalie Gumede to the show except I can't see how it could be done. Any change in personality would be a difficult thing to portray regardless of acting ability. As for Tina and Katy being sexy I can't see it in either case. I'd describe them as very attractive and Listerine dipped.|
Hi H.Jude, I too was wondering about Mookie and... r' Katy as well‼ : )|
Hope everyone is doing good! ☺
|Where are Julia from Vancouver and Mookie from Calgary?|
|Harrison Ford in Six Days Seven Nights!|
|Peter O'Toole and Robert Redford. Both sides of the pond are covered.|
|I'm in love with Hugh Grant and Nick Berry (have been for many, many years)|
Mark: You have every right to be smitten with whom you like! I'm only pulling your leg you know that...|
Each to their own. I've been in love with Keith Richards all of my life...My brother and sister in law went to see the Stones at the Isle of Wight a few years back...they ended up being right in front as the stage morphed in front of them. My sis. told my brother...My gosh they're ugly....He replied...For heaven's sake , don't tell Sis...she's been in love with them since she could walk...
Each to their own right?
my dad was born in Saint John's New Brunswick and they always pronounced it Sin Jins.|
OH I did not know that! Never heard that before. Actually I was writing of English pronunciation.
I lived in Saint John (not Saint John's) NB myself for 6 years.
It is St. John's Nfld.
|Lisa, my dad was born in Saint John's New Brunswick and they always pronounced it Sin Jins.|
|Yes Sin Jin when a given name. Saint John when a saint or place name.|
TerryM: I'm glad to hear that Audrey is fine, rested and coming back.|
I see by the ads that soccer is now coming on CBC. Is that going to be yet another time shift for Corrie? I can somehow understand for hockey but soccer?! Then there's the Pan Am games that we have to endure. Oh the pain!
|That's 2 twelve year girls not 212!|
|Having gone through my book by Bill Podmore (autographed by Sean Wilson by the way), there have been other instances of Corrie actors in trouble with law in a sexual manner. Peter Dudley, who played Bert Tilsley, Ivy’s husband, was arrested for exposing himself to men in a public toilet. Peter Adamson, who played Rita’s husband, was accused of indecent touching of 2 12 year old girls in a public pool…although his charges were dropped, he got fired from Granada for selling his story to a newspaper for 110,000 pounds. He died penniless…|
|Testing 1.2.3...have been trying to post but unable to|
Mark - I thought Katy would give Tina a good run for her money this year as she is also very beautiful. However I don't think she quite has the figure that Tina (Michelle) has. Although it's close. I'd give Kylie third, but that's quite close too. They are all lovely young ladies. Myrna Loy would give them all competition in her day though.|
I once met Diana Dors when I was quite young in the 1950's. I was downtown in Nottingham with my little sister who had bad eyesight and she tripped over something on the sidewalk. Diana Dors appeared out of nowhere and helped her up. After my mother thanked her, my mother told me who she was. I remember she was very kind to my sister and had such beautiful golden hair. I was always a fan after that.
So sorry, Mark, to associate you with Tantalizing Tina, when you're more in step with the alabaster beauty of Kylie and Fizz. |
I noticed in Friday's eppie that Syliva pronounced St. John, Roy's father, as SIN GIN. Is that the common pronunciation for "St. John" in the UK?
Terry I didn't ask Mirna Loy her age as that would have been impolite especially in those days.|
Leah, they certainly don't make such classy women anymore.
I'm glad you were able to meet Lillian Gish.
She had girlish beauty.
vixen13, Terry is the big Tina fan.
I like Tina more for her old world personality.
I prefer milky white skin like Kylie and Fizz.
I hope they keep the humour between David and Kylie
and I hope we see more of Craig.
|Haili - Audrey will be back soon in Canadian eps. She looks very nice and well and rested imo, maybe Sue Nicholls was on vacation.|
Looks like the pub has been stripped right down to the bricks. It would be kind of nice to leave the exposed brickwork but i suppose they'll do drywall and wallpaper. Karl sure wasn't comfortable inside the building was he? Jason hasn't let off knifing Karl. He's sure the reunion isn't going to last. Karl might try to threaten Jason but Jason's not afraid of him. Karl is making free with her credit card for the groceries and Stella most certainly has had bad news. Karl wants to marry Stella. After all these years, they've never got round to it. She figures they're in no position to do it but he wants to cement his cause, soothe his guilt. "After everything I've done for you" and she doesn't know the half! Passive aggressive Karl now walks around with a big woe is me on him, guaranteed to put the guilts on Stella who's dealing with her finances. Gloria very much plays Karl's corner but Stella won't be swayed. Jason got a few digs in at Karl's expense, just the two of them. He may say he and Stella are solid, but his eyes are reflecting the doubts and Jason won that round I think. Leanne isn't too happy about the proposal and she reckons she can stop it single handed because she can't stand Karl. Except at the moment, Stella's said no so what's the problem? She wants to make sure she doesn't change her mind. Frankly, though her opinion is allowed, it's none of her damn business. I do agree with Karl on that, even though Stella would be making a mistake by marrying him. I don't agree with him putting the frighteners on Leanne. She's brave, gotta hand it to her. She will fight him every inch of the way even if she is a little scared, really.|
Leanne is determined to make Stella believe she was threatened. Karl naturally tries to put his position in ahead of Leanne telling tales to make it sound like Leanne started the argy bargy and he lost his temper a bit. It'll make her accusations of him threatening her a bit weaker, he probably thinks. Stella didn't take Leanne's insults about Karl well. Who will she believe? She's not too bright. Who do you think? She just thinks they're bickering but we know there's more behind it than that. They said a few nasty things to each other but I think Leanne's final shot was the winner. Stella isn't going to bend to Leanne's ultimatums. Fair enough, really. Nobody really knows how bad Karl really is. He's a waster, yes and Leanne is allowed to disapprove but ultimatums never work. Meanwhile Stella is really preoccupied about finances but Karl thinks it's about him and the turned down proposal. Gloria seems to have a lot of cash lately. Wonder why? Stella got back from the bank and obviously things didn't go well. She's snapping at everyone and Karl still thinks it's all about him. She finally admits the problem to Leanne first. The insurance won't pay out and she's flat broke and can't afford to finish the repairs. It all comes down to the fact that the insurance company thinks the spare keys were left unsecured so they were able to be nicked, the pub broken into and burned. And that is true only it was Karl not Sunita. Karl has one more reason to feel guilty and Leanne's accusations of him only wanting Stella back for the money are niggling at him too. Owen has got the bad news about the last cheque bouncing. Uh oh. Warpath anyone? Karl lied very smoothly because that's what he does but I don't think Owen believed him. Gloria thinks they should ask Leanne for an investment but considering that Karl is involved, she won't touch it with a bargepole. They asked anyway and got the predicted reaction. Nick thinks she should make up with her mother so she decided to do it but on the condition that she chuck Karl out. Could there be any more of an ultimatum than that? And Stella's not going to go for it, you know that don't you? Gary was kind of a git to Stella, growling about not getting paid. He didn't want to hear her excuses and his finances, and Owen's are suffering. It's not Stella's fault that the insurance isn't paying out but she shouldn't have written that cheque knowing it would probably bounce. Now that Stella's told Owen the truth, it's down tools. Now what's she going to do? And Gary's worried about the surrogacy payment. Owen's determine to undo all the work and it looked like there would be a confrontation between him and Karl. I don't know how tough Karl is but I wouldn't bet on his chances against Owen. I suppose it was too good to be true. Naturally, Eileen feels all is lost so Paul comes walking back into her life. I really think that crack in their relationship is going to be hard to plaster over. She's willing to take him back but it's not going to be easy, resolving herself to his line of work. Eileen's now all loved up and everyone is delighted he came back. Even Jason! Awww that's nice, he's gonna be Best Man. Eileen now has to get used to his job again. He's delighted he is going back. You'd think he'd understand more her side. Surely Lesley worried? She'll probably get a bit more used to it in time but the first few weeks will be hard for her and when he's late home on his first day back it's ironic that she's burned the cake! Jason thinks Eileen needs to talk to Paul who didn't come home straight away because he had a surprise, a booked weekend in London so he could meet Todd. The trip is lovely but how selfish is that man? He KNOWS she's worried, why can't he text and say he's ok and has something to do? I like Paul mostly but he really is up his own backside. We'll not see Kevin now he's got an official exit. I didn't even know Bill had moved back to Germany! Never mind. Kevin's off to help look after him and Tyrone's back in the garage. If Kevin did pay Tyrone off his share, i suppose he can still hire him back as an employee. There's Julie's exit story, her mother with a broken hip needs her help. The actress, Katy Cavanagh is pregnant and ready to pop! Eva won in the war of one upmanship over Tracy over the holiday. Result! Nice to see Tyrone back at the garage and his life back on track. Tyrone's happy as a dog with two tails being back at work with his bromance mate Tommy! Tyrone says he's got a system for betting on the horses. He must have learned it from Jack Duckworth who hardly ever won a bet in his life. Tommy feels like things are finally going well, too. Anna's really on Gary's case about that ring but she's keeping it quiet for now. Everyone had to persuade Izzy to go back to the ante natal class and I think Anna had more reason than most because she definitely has a bad feeling about Gary's feelings for Tina. Big Barlow family dinner. Where was Simon? Ken doesn't really like Rob any more than Peter does and compared him to Mike Baldwin. Now I think he does have a bit of Mike in him but Mike had a charm to him that Rob doesn't have. It's more all smarm for Rob. I wonder if this is meant to be Ken and Mike, round II? That's why he and Tracy fit so well. Loved Deirdre's cooking and pretending she made the cake though Carla sussed the box. Only Deirdre could put squirty cream on a lovely cake. Sylvia was not happy with Rob handing out free coffee at the bookies and he had the cheek to offer her one, too! Naturally Norris will take advantage of the free coffee but will he put a bet on for it? No of course not but Sylvia stopped him in his tracks. Nasty little man. He spent a lot of time this episode lurking around and earwigging. We know why Norris was lurking around the Rovers, he was trying to get a look in, but he should have been marched straight back out for not wearing safety gear and Stella and Karl should have had them on as well. David and Kylie have had their scan as well. They know what the baby's sex. They weren't going to tell but David slipped and said "She" so it's a girl. David has ordered a cot for the baby already. As upset as Gail is, it must be nice for her to see how happy David is. Now he's going to be working all day and doing some of Kylie's evening shifts as well and it's already tiring him out. He's only been working evening shifts a few days already and not letting Kylie do any housework. Adding awkward to everything else, get Nick to feel Kylie's tummy to feel the baby. David's hovering is making her hormone's crazy as well. Rob and Peter continue to rub up the wrong way. Peter and Steve ganging up on Rob was fun. Rob really is making a lot of improvements, even upgrading the sign so Peter decided to get his own back by making Rob do the bet calculations manually. I don't understand why Rob was finding it difficult if he took all those business courses in prison. I guess he's useless without a computer at hand. Rob knows Peter was trying to get him to quit. He didn't, yet, but Peter hasn't given up and Carla caught him and Steve winding up Rob. They didn't pursue that so maybe she didn't know what the money was for. Carla's treating Peter like a child, defending her brother but i think Peter's right, Carla doesn't want Rob underfoot in the factory. Later, Rob is charming the customers even when it bores the pants off him. Peter's plan to eject Rob still isn't working. Starting up a new Cropper storyline, Yay! Sylvia is going to see an old friend on Monday and this is going to lead to a new story for our favourite family! I don't know why Sylvia's so worried about the car not being done "today" when she's not visiting her friend until Monday.
Not quite sure why Sylvia is so nervous and fussing over choosing just the right outfit? Just because she didn't like living there? But she said wild horses couldn't have stopped her visiting. Really? She's been away from there well over a year or close to 2 and hasn't visited until now. And we are launched into a new storyline. Sylvia's old friend has found a long lost letter for for her from Roy's father and her ex, St. John (pronounced SinJin) who wants Roy to contact him. Lines of the week: Peter to Carla "Save you turning the microwave on" Carla "Oy cheeky, I'm always cooking!" Peter "A ham and cheese toastie? How is that cooking?" Carla "It started off cold, I made it hot. That, baby, is cooking" (works for me!) Izzy "I'd rather stitch knickers" (Liar)
Lloyd to Steve "Your bum cheeks might be rock hard but the rest of you is hangin"
Owen to Izzy "Since when have you given a damn about what people think about you"
Ken about Rob "You know who he reminds me of? Mike Baldwin. And look at the chaos he caused"
Karl to Stella "Life without you would not be worth living" (and that's his whole motivation isn't it?) David to Gail "You like surprises. I don't" (just you wait, David )
Gloria "Too fast? You've got cobwebs on your crow's feet!" Sylvia "I married Roy's father because he held a door open for me in Woolworth's" Peter to Carla "If it were Christmas every day it would never be Christmas at all" (Yay, a Blanche quote apparently!) Kylie "I hope you're not expecting me to put the thing together, I can't even do Lego!" Karl "Why am I here feeling accused?" (Oh, you wonder why?) Rob to Tracy "Your brother's a snake" Tracy "That runs in the family" Stella to Gary "I've no business, no home..." Gary "That's your business, not mine" (but it's also the reason you're working and you're not getting paid so it is in fact your business) Peter to Rob "You really want to impress me, learn to count" Roy "Does my mother's behaviour appear strange to you?" Hayley "I think 'strang-er' might be nearer the mark"
|I wouldn't mind a return of Kirsty, a treated in control Kirsty who could be a good mother to Ruby. I think the actress is indeed talented enough to take on a completely different personality and make it believable. Some years would have to pass before that could happen though.|
Leah: I second that! I never want to see Kirstie again - but it will be tempting for the writers to bring her back for a custody battle or to make Ty and Fizz's life a misery again.|
I feel the same way about Lewis. He had a good exit and I hope he's gone for good. I hope the actress who plays Audrey is OK. We haven't seen her for ages.
|Lynn, be careful what you wish for. I, for one, wish the Natalie Gumede all the best in her career but never want to see Kirstie again.|
|Re Soap awards: And Kirstie won as "Best Villan". Judging by the intense emotions that she generated with this board, they made a good choice. She had us hating her. It certainly bodes well for her choices as an actress. It makes me wonder if she will be back eventually making life complicated for Ty and Fiz. She is Ruby's mom so there is potential for her to return.|
Thanks, Lynn, for the link to the Brit soap awards. I see that both Michelle Keegan (Tina) and Georgia May Foote (Katy) were nominated for most sexy female star, with Michelle Keegan winning for the fifth time. Maybe Mark is justified in his lofty estimation of the Tantalizing Tina. |
Corrie does very well at the Brit Soap awards|
Quote from Mark.|
" I had a major crush on Mirna Loy but she turned me down."
Mark, you remind me of Tom in "Waiting for God". You make me laugh.
As for legality, I have no input. Because I hid everything I would never have been able to prove anything. I lied to the hospital as well. I should have gone to the police because after me, I don't doubt he abused the next woman, and there should have been at least a police report of my abuse to show a pattern.|
The teenagers in care were excellent manipulators. So difficult to know if they were truthful, or looking for revenge on a careworker, or simply up to mischief because they were bored. Many of the workers were gay but had to keep that firmly quiet because the kids saw that as an easy mark for accusations. It's not easy, I don't know what to think about making accusations decades down the road, unless the victim has been haunted for so long they need to get it off their chest. I don't know how one could prove such a thing either.
Hopefully society has changed enough that victims feel they will be supported and can come forward in a reasonable time and get help.
Thank you, Marion, for sharing not only your expertise and experience with youth victims but also your personal story. Our society has definitely taught women that they are, in some measure, responsible for their victimization and that it is a shameful thing. So women around the world succumb to the pressure and accept the blame. |
I was once on a jury in a sexual abuse case in which a thirty-something woman was bringing charges against her uncle for actions when she was a one-digit age. Her life had been ruined with addictions, failed relationships, inability to hold jobs and so her therapist recommended that she take control in bringing her story forward as part of her healing process. Unfortunately, since doubt remained as to the guilt of the accused, he was not convicted. It's haunted me every since.
|Sorry, I realized too late that that sounded as if pay-outs were made to those who falsely accused teachers. I should have said it covered legal costs and other expenses caused by the accusation.|
Marion, you have my sympathy and I don't doubt that some accusations that arise decades after the fact might be true. The question is that of proof. If you're going to convict someone and ruin his life by sending him to prison you need to prove guilt beyond a shadow of doubt. How that is possible after 40 years is beyond me. However it also seems to me that crimes against children are weighted in favour of the children, even if the 'children' are now in their fifties or early sixties. The same level of proof does not seem to be required and that, I think, is not fair to the accused. That's why I still think there should be a statute of limitations that must be applied before any real evidence is obliterated.|
PS Even children know how to play the system. Teachers can actually buy insurance that covers pay-outs if they're FALSELY accused of impropriety with students. Such false accuations happen more often than you'd think.
|Thank you Marion. I wrote a few weeks ago of being on a jury where we found a man guilty of rape and the rape had taken place decades before the trail. I cannot put myself in the shoes of the victim but I understand a little bit better why it took so long for her to tell someone.|
Unless one of us has experienced sexual assault, it is impossible to know the mind of one who has. Even then, recovery varies. It is easy to imagine another person's mindset, but usually inaccurate.|
From what I know from training with troubled youth, it can take years for an individual to come forward even in this society. Since the youth/girl was often blamed by society as being complicit, or the youth/girl would blame and shame herself, it is not uncommon to keep a terrible secret.
The reason many come forward at the same time is simple. Seeing one victim come forward gives courage to others. It happens that way.
Of course all these men could very well be innocent, but it is impossible to put ourselves in the minds of a sexual assault victim.
I was a victim of domestic abuse in 1977 and kept it a secret from my father (he died in 1995) and only told my mother about 5 years before she died in 2004. The look in her eyes at having not protected me was devastating. It's too complicated to explain my mindset at keeping it a secret, but the experience changed my life, how private I am, how I trust others, how I react when men laugh off a slap on a woman on a show. Women have said to me "I would never let a man hit me", but they don't ask permission first. It can surprise you what another human can do to you, and how you will react or not react.
|Well I can not guess who this "fourth" actor is. I only assume he must be very old now since the 60's was over 40 years ago now.|
|OFF TOPIC I grew up in San Mateo California from 3-8 yrs. old ( It's near San Francisco ) so we had quite a lot of earthquakes. As a kid of those ages we thought it was great fun. We'd be at the supper table and the spoons would be shaking off the table as we crouched under it. Later we saw a few cracks in the sidewalk or foundation of the house ( no basements), no big deal to us. We moved back home to Canada as my Mom got cancer ( and I think wanted to be near family). SPOILER or at least back to topics. I would hate to think people would accuse someone of those abuses mentioned to try to get money from a settlement if they are unfounded. They should think of what those people's families have to go through with the accusations as well. Looking forward to the omni on Sun. It's late.|
|Mark, they don't make glamorous, sophisticated movie stars like Myrna Loy any more. Here's another one. When my brother and I were about 8 and 10 our parents took us to the Stratford Festival. We were waiting in line at the box office hoping to get seats for the evening's performance when a lady was ushered past all of us and immediately got tickets. We kids didn't know who she was, but we did know she had pushed ahead of us and we were loudly voicing our opinions about that. Our parents knew exactly who she was and were trying to make us shut up before we could cause too much commotion. Later, that lady was kind enough to come over and chat with us and she was so gracious we never forgot her. It was Lillian Gish.|
|I just read that the actor who played Ray Langton is facing allegations that he exposed himself to a young girl. I don't know if he's the fourth actor they've been talking about. Does anyone know if actors from the other soaps are also facing sex allegations or is it just Corrie actors?|
|Vixen, thank you for the explanation about your screen name. Sometimes I wonder how people come up with them.|
|Mark - Myrna Loy died in 1993 at age 88. How old was she when she turned you down? :-)|
Gail: I'd say you're about right; Jason's father was on 9 or 10 years ago.|
Pearl: Congrats on remembering so much about him!
|A household name... hummmm...|
JeanF, the fourth Coronation Street actor to be charged, but not named -- apparently it's a "household name" that we'll all recognize -- is being accused of sexual misconduct in the 1960s, as was William Roache. LaVell's and Lancel's actions are more contemporary. |
|Andrew Lancel(Frank Foster on Corrie) is 42 or 43 so he was not acting in the 60's. That was way before he was born.|
Julie: LOL at your description of Kylie getting drunk, smoking, sleeping with her brother-in-law, dancing on tables etc. Becky did a lot of the same things and Mark still can't stand her but he is blind to Kylie's faults.|
Mark: it's OK. We all have our fantasies. I always liked Tony and he had a few faults too - though I don't think he smoked.
Vixen: I like your nickname too!LOL :)|
I'm with a few of you as well in that I'm really suspicious now of all these accusations. Innocent until proven guilty I say! Whatever happened to that?! I'm not a fan of Rob Ford, but I'd sure love to see the "proof" that it was cocaine he was smoking. Sheesh, when will it ever end?
|Good points Vixen. I also wonder if maybe back in the 60's there wasn't as much support for victims of sexual assaults, they were often thought to have *asked for it*. There was that sort of mentality back then and for someone to come forward with accusations meant putting them on trial more than the perpetrator. Things have changed a lot and maybe now they feel they could get the justice they feel they deserve for being violated and that the law would be more inclined to punish their abuser now than it woul d have in the 60's. Just a thought. I'm speaking generally here, not about any of the 4 Corrie actors. Mark, no Andrew Lancel wasn't on Corrie in the 60's, he probably wasn't even born yet then LOL There is another ex-Corrie actor who has been accused but so far, his name hasn't been disclosed. They said in the article he was a very popular/well loved character.|
How can anyone make any money suing Corrie characters?|
They're always skint.
Andrew Lancel wasn't there in the 60's, was he?
Thanks for setting me straight about the gold ring Haili and Julie.
Julie I haven't used Melatonin.
I have thought about it but there is a reason that I forgot why I didn't use it.
Dr Oz had a show about it.
If women on this board can fawn all over Rob and Ryan
then I'll be smitten with Kylie wrapped in cotton batting.
I like David and Kylie together. They remind me of Mirna Loy and William Powell.
I had a major crush on Mirna Loy but she turned me down.
Vixen, I really thought your name reflected a foxy female and had this image of you that is now shattered knowing you were named after one of Santa's reindeer!|
I am very suspicious of all these sudden arrests. I would not question a victim's right to come out many years later, but frankly I am questioning if there are real victims recalling events or if the whole thing is a fabrication, not by individual women, but by the media or the police or whatever other association. Wrongful accusations happen all the time and not only on Corrie. It's just too many similar scenarios happening suddenly all at once. It smacks of a witch hunt to me. And it is quite a coincidence that the arrest of William Roache happened shortly after he made those very controversial comments. Also, why can't they name this latest accused Corrie actor but they named the other ones? Questioning these accusations is not questioning women who come forward years after being victimized, I am questioning the possibility of a wider fabrication. And if there is a fabrication, it hurts the cause of women who truly have been victims of such acts. I'm not saying there is a fabrication for sure, I'm just questioning what's going on.
Daphne: I was thinking too that Kylie would have a miscarriage after her gripping pains when the baby started to kick. This is her second child. I think we all recall the first kicks are like little butterflies, not something that can stop you dead in your tracks.|
Mark: I thought 200 quid was quite expensive for a plain gold band...probably 9 or 14 karat especially from a pawn shop. They are not wealthy people so the ring would be very cheap to start with. I bought my niece a cygnet ring last year for a small grad. gift and it only cost me 70 quid.I didn't have a problem with the cost of the one on Corrie.
Also, have you tried melatonin to help you sleep? My daughter has sleep paralysis and this has really helped her.
Also..."Kylie is beyond pretty with her milky white complexion and porcelain features,
I would understand if he wrapped her in cotton fluff".
Ahem....She drinks and smokes...Heavily.. falls off tables in public...sleeps with her brother in law......??? Need I go on...??? I know I'm not going to win this war...LOL
Leah, you mentioned a few days ago that you loved my screen name. I was given this name by my son when he was a youngster and we used to have great video game battles. He was Dasher and I was Vixen. You can guess that, since he was a lover of all things Christmas, we were named after reindeer. Alas, I wasn't nicknamed "Vixen" because I was a foxy female! It's the screen name I've used ever since, with a few changes when required, as others like the name, too. |
I'm becoming a bit cynical about these scenarios as well, Frankie. I can't figure out why it's taken so long for these alleged victims to come forward with their stories, since many of the attacks purportedly took place in the 1960s. All I can think is that, perhaps, the memories were buried very deeply and have recently been resurrected through flashbacks, as sometimes happens. But for all these victims to have flashbacks at the same time is a bit unbelievable. It's also possible that this coming forward is part of the healing process for victims who have suffered since the 1960s and want to make a positive change in their lives. I'd hate to think these men were being put through this exercise because someone saw a way to make a fast buck, oops, pound. |
|You're welcome Vixen, yes, I knew about Andrew Lancel also facing charges. Isn't it strange, life imitates art sometimes. He may not be guilty of course! Same goes for MLV and William Roache but they'll all have their day in court and the chance to defend themselves.|
|So there's been another accusation. My instinct says there are people who are fabricating these stories for financial gain. This last one makes me disbelieve any of the accusations. Count me in as being very suspicious of the accusers.|
Thanks for the information, Gail. I didn't realize that Frank Foster (actor Andrew Lancel) had also been charged. The whole story can be found at the following website. |
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3/coronation- street/news/a482588/fourth-coronation-street-star-facing-sexual-assault- allegations.html
|I guess it makes sense that Owen would pay Tina in installments but I thought she had paid off Tommy's debt. Maybe the rest is profit. I sold my rings a few years ago and hardly got anything for them so I didn't think it would cost much to get one from a pawn shop. I guess we shouldn't take all this financial stuff too seriously but just go with the flow of the story.|
|I'm probably wrong but thought Owen was paying Tina in three installments. 1st one when she get pregnant, 2nd at mid point which has just passed, and the 3rd & last payment when baby is born. First payment was made but not sure if the second has and can NOT remember the amounts. I need a money manager same as Corrie folks do.|
About the ring...|
If my memory isn't playing tricks on me...
the receipt included engraving on it.
I think Gary bought it from a jeweler and had the inscription engraved.
Do correct me if I'm wrong.
|I just read in a google alert that now an unnamed fourth Coronation Street star who is no longer on the show but was a long running character in the 60's is being accused of preying on a 12 year old girl who was a fan seeking autographs on the set and befriended him. The accusation is of *very inappropriate behavior toward her*. Wonder who it is? It won't be long and we'll find out I suppose. There seems to be no end to this.|
I'm presuming the pawn shop would purchase the ring from the thief who brought it in. After assessing its value, the pawn hop owner would, no doubt, offer the seller a fraction of what it was worth. So, if Gary bought it for 200 pounds, you can be assured that the pawn shop owner gave less than that to the person selling the ring. He would want to make a profit. The less the shop owner gives out initially, the less he'll charge to turn the product around. |
|I just checked and 200 pounds is equivalent of $311.00 Cdn. dollars (I just needed a reference point!) So the ring is not a pricey ring, but it's obviously the sentimental value that matters to Tina. It may have been worth more than that, but we're talking about a pawn shop where they probably just want to keep the cash flowing and move the stuff and if it's not a valuable piece, they would just want to get something for it. Not that I know anything about pawn shop shopping, just assuming here! I have no idea how they operate! *yawn* better clear the building now Mark, I'm feeling like a little lie down!|
I'm confused about the money Tina got from Owen. She got enough to pay off Tyrone, or so I thought but is there more to come? Wouldn't the ring be much cheaper from a pawn shop than a new one from a jeweler? In that case 200 pounds would be a lot of money to pay for a used wedding ring since they are much cheaper than engagement rings.|
Mark: it was kind of nice to see Karl stand up to Owen, but does he have a death wish? Of course he is a gambler so he was betting Owen would back down.
|Just a thought about this ring of Joe's that Gary bought for 200 pound. There are many types of gold that affects the price. For example 10k gold is cheaper to buy than 14k, which rings usually are. 22k or 24k is usually only used in necklaces so they cost alot more. Also the thickness of the band affects the price. Chances are the ring was older and thinner than what you can purchase on the market now a days.|
Leah - I understood that it was the second cheque she gave him that bounced. She gave him a cheque initially when she agreed Owen could do the work - even though the insurance company had not ok'd it and he wasn't the lowest bidder!!!!|
She didn't want to wait weeks to get started so she shelled out.
|Leah I agree with all you said also.|
|*****UK SPOILER***** Lisa, what I meant about Gloria's announcement was the incredibility of it all. First she got nothing, then, when it was convenient to the plot, she got quite a bit. Since Gloria and Eric never married, his real wife would have good grounds to contest the will. As well, I don't think people make new wills before they are married, in case something happens before the day, as it did. Besides, Eric was tired of Gloria's gold-digging and unlikely to feed into it. That's what snapped my willing suspension of disbelief. I almost said aloud, "Oh pleeease!"|
Off tropics to Annette...|
I only listen to the hypnotist going off to sleep.
Never if I had insomnia.
Sometimes I woke up startled wondering who'se talking to me.
His name is Frank Mc Kenna, I got his book from the librewry and it has the cd inside the cover.
But the music yes... it can get me back to sleep.
(unless I'm really worried about something)
It uses slow hertzs and binaural beats with music to slow down the brain waves.
"Natural Sleep inducement" by David Bradstreet
Sometimes I can sleep 6-7 hours solid with it now.
Haili ... Owen paid Tina months ago before the Rover's burnt down.|
But I thought she was paid in advance and in full.
Good point Haili. I wonder how much she could get for the land or maybe get a loan?
She could use Kevin's house as collateral before he gets back from the trial LOL.
Mark...do you listen to your tapes everynight? Would they help a person fall BACK to sleep?|
There is a syndrome for shaking legs , i can't remember if that is the same thing as you called it Mark.
Had a good laugh at Stella kicking nosey ole Norris out of the pub's building site tonight! LOL :)|
Anna got into Stella about the lack of money for her son and Owen..it's got nothing to do with her far as I'm concerned. Actually it was kinda nice to see someone (carl) shut loud-mouth Owen up! Hmm..looks like we're going to be into an interesting/mysterious storyline concerning Roy.
Off tropics ***|
Gail next time you lie down during the day let us know so we can evacuate the building.
I used to wake up startled from feeling my bed shaking and I'd jump out of bed thinking there was an earthquake.
Then I started to check on the a Gov of Canada web site
and there were no earthquakes happening.
Next time I awoke from an earthquake feeling I just lay in bed to realize it was my legs shaking.
So I told my doctor and he sent me to a neurologist.
They never found out what it was.
I did my own research on the internet and it's called Sleep myoclonus.
Now I might get it a bit when I fall off to sleep but I don't get it at night perhaps because I listen to a hypnotist and relaxation music.
I totally agree with your 15:16 post Leah re adult children becoming 'step'. So unnessary.|
What I remember about Jason dad Tony was Jason living with him breifly after a teenage dispute with Eileen. Tony was living with a much younger woman at the time. He was an electrician and somehow broke his leg and could not work. That is when girlfriend kicked him out and Jason persuaded Eileen to take him in. He was a user but did get Jason started in the building trade.
Todd's dad was only mentioned ocasionally as being smart and rich but never there for Todd or Eileen. Parhaps she was too fisty when younger, men couldn't live with her or she wouldn't live with them.
If Leanne and Nick bought the pub, they'd be in a win win situation with all the drunks living nearby.
I'm really enjoying the feud with Peter and Rob.
Peter telling the guy to bring in his canal books was so funny.
Owen is a wuss in that he could just go and get a contractors lean on the Rovers.
Once it's sold, he'll get his money.
The Ring: we heard it here tonight again: £ 200
£ 200 for a gold ring?
Even a used one? Gold is gold!
I agree with David.
Kylie is beyond pretty with her milky white complexion and porcelain features,
I would understand if he wrapped her in cotton fluff.
|...Carl "The Man" Munro...The Hero...|
|Daphne, the cheque that Stella gave Owen bounced.|
|It just occurred to me: where did Gary get 200 pounds for the ring if he hasn't been paid for 3 weeks? He must be a better money manager than Owen!|
|The second time I felt an earthquake I was sitting on the livingroom floor of my Ottawa home, and I swear, I could feel my spine tingle. I thought I was having a stroke, but then I heard all our neighbours coming out of their homes and we were all talking about it for a few minutes - that was around 1988. I felt one before that in 1986 while sitting at my desk in my office at Avenue Road and Eglinton in Toronto - very strange feeling for sure.|
I never understand why Corrie people spend so much money and leave themselves broke, like Owen, paying Tina to have a baby when he can't even pay his workers. I think it would be a dirty trick if Stella went to Nick for the money after Leanne refused and would just stir up trouble between Leanne and Nick. Stella and Karl need to get jobs and start paying for the Rovers - or else sell it. I forget if Karl is still driving a cab, but wasn't he fired for keeping Stella hostage in one? So many get fired and re-hired, I lose track.
Mark: as for the ring, we may have to wait to see how it all plays out.
Owen is acting as if it is all his money that went into the Rovers so far but didn't Stella give him a cheque for 10 or £15000? Karl is being a hero again. Is there no end to this guys goodness and bravery? I want to barf!|
Is Kylie going to have a miscarriage?
|Thanks for your comments regarding my post Jean and ? ( couldn't find your post again when I looked back again to find it, sorry). If I were Stella, I think I'd try for a loan from Nick letting him know that Leanne won't help unless Karl will leave her. I'd just say it was to pay for the work done to now so Owen can pay his invoices to do with the renos and who he employed, then she'll have to find some work to finance her own renos and to repay him, etc.|
|Thanks George. I vaguely remember Jason's father, other than he was living with Eileen for a while and he was a mixed race black man if I recall correctly. I don't remember him stealing from the cab office but if you say so then I believe you! Do you know roughly when this was? It must have been about a decade ago or so do you think? Mark, my earthquake prediction skills aren't very well developed. Strangely enough though, the last 3 earthquakes which I felt all happened when I was laying on my bed in the daytime, which I rarely do! So all I can tell you in way of prediction is if I'm ever inclined to lie down on my bed during the day, it's *possible* that we may have a small tremor LOL I was stretched out on the bed relaxing, watching the news and texting with my daughter around 9:45 this morning when I felt the bed start shaking and I texted to her that I hoped it was an earthquake again, otherwise what was shaking my bed for 10 seconds? Within about 10 minutes of that, they mentioned on CBC Newsworld that reports were coming in that an earthquake had occurred near Quebec/Ontario border and been felt as far away as Toronto. Apparently there were 2 quakes from the same location about 10 minutes apart. I think I just felt the first one and it's quite the freaky sensation!|
|Jason's father stole a large sum of money from the cab office and disappeared. I think that's when we knew for sure he was a wrong'un.|
Panic over. Corris IS on. It is the TV which is wrong.|
|Janice it's a 6:30 pm here in Ontario in case you fly over on your private jet.|
Gail next time please let us know about the earthquake before it happens LOL.|
It wasn't as bas as in June 2010 but still scary.
The upstairs scenes I recall were of Steve and Becky in some kind of big apartment with a kitchen.
Now why are they eating in a small back living room now?
(before the fire).
Thanks Haili and Pearl for explaining about the keys.
How come the ring topic is dead?
|Just settled down to watch Corrie at 3pm here in BC. But no corrie on the programme list. Has the time been changed today?|
|I remember Jason's father showed up on the street and Eileen took him in. This was several years ago, when Jason was a teen I think. His dad was somewhat of a lazy loser as I recall and Eileen wasn't thrilled to see him and although my memory of it is a bit vague, I think he turned out to be just using her and she threw him out or something. Maybe I'm not remembering it right. Anyway, Jason is a credit to Eileen as he's turned out to be such a decent young man.|
|Haili: I think in many ways Eileen is still the strong, indpendant woman, but she's in love, and is a little insecure right now (she doesn't want to lose Paul)!!! I've always loved the Eileen character and I've said before if she was my real life neighbour, I think we'd be very close friends. Thank God we don't all have the same opinions!!LOL :)|
Another time Eileen showed her soft and emotional side was when she took in baby Holly when she thought the baby was Jason's child.|
I never saw Jason's father. Who was he?
|I prefer the old Eileen who was a strong independent woman. She may have been hard on the outside but she was a real softy inside and her home was a welcoming spot for both her sons, Sean, Marcus etc. and even Paul's wife. She even had Jason's father there for a short time - and that's above and beyond the call of duty. Now she's become needy and soppy and is no fun at all most of the time, spending too much energy worrying about Paul. I'm glad they have her back in the cab office with Steve and Lloyd where she belongs.|
In the old days there were supposed to be four bedrooms upstairs. In Becky's time some of the upstairs morphed into a living room and possibly a kitchen unless they carried the food upstairs. We would see Becky and Amy eating breakfast and scenes with Becky and Liz. We haven't seen it since Becky left so perhaps she took it with her:-)|
Eileen is so inept in the kitchen that she may have turned the broiler on to bake the cake, otherwise it would be burned on the bottom. I loved that she dropped the cake fresh out of the oven, on the floor, upside down and it never broke or fell apart. Must be stick to the ribs kind of cake!!
|Monique: I totally agree with you about the getting older and having doubts sometimes, so I think it's very believable with Eileen. Before she didn't have that many men in her life, well okay, maybe a couple, but she knows the older she gets, the harder it will be to find a lifetime mate/companion/friend/lover, whatever you want to call it, and so I think this is a more realistic side of Eileen we get to see and I like it!|
Hey Jude: YES...Charlie Stubbs...She remained 'pretty up stairs bound' for a while if you re call, too frightened to speak up let alone go outside. I always felt so sorry for her, but a GREAT character and brilliant landlady.|
Pearl, thank you for answering my question.|
Gail, I agree with you that it's more interesting to show another side of Eileen. It makes sense that getting older causes one to question themselves more and have more doubts about the direction their life is taking (I should know, lol)And maybe her relationship with Paul opened up a more emotional side of her.
|Gail: Good point about Eileen. She had been very one dimensional and I quite like her now as she is, seems more "human" to me also. BTW, that cake looked delish!LOL|
|Vixen, I think Eileen was too one dimensional before with a smart remark for everything, never showing much warmth or emotion and now she is more realistic, having doubts and insecurities like a real human being. She is getting older and sometimes people do change as they age. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it LOL ;)|
|Sorry, I meant I remember seeing a lot of that upstairs bedroom!LOL Sheesh!LOL|
|Julie: Do you mean Charlie Stubbs? I remember seeing a of that upstairs bedroom too when he was abusing her mentally.|
I think it was Monique who asked "how many makeover has the Rover had?" I googled that and came up with 1 major after the 1986 fire which Gail has mentioned. Before that there were 3 customer rooms; the public, the snug, & the select. When the pub was repaired they where made one as we see today.|
In Feb 2008 it was redecorated (during Liz & Vernon's time), new flooring, furniture, paint & wallpaper. The wallpaper was changed closer to the old style in October, same year with no explanation as to why.
Seems to me where were changes made earlier on (in the 80's) but could find nothing about that. Maybe Terry M has better records.
Re the keys, the police asked Stella who had keys to the Rovers when they first investigated the fire. She told them that there was also an extra set hanging behind the bar but in view of the public. I assume the insurance co. would recieve the investigation report and learn about that.
|We saw a lot of the upstairs of the pub when Shelley was being mentally abused by....oops forgot....here we go again...lol...Fill in the blanks someone...?Terry M..?..Anyone...?|
|Re Gloria's latest announcement - I got very irritated at the reaction of her daughter and grand-daughter. They were very frosty to Gloria for not sharing. As if Gloria should! What Gloria has is hers!|
|Gail, my daughter in Mississauga felt the earthquake but we didn't feel anything here in the falls. At least I didn't feel anything. I am on the ground floor so I would probably have felt it if it affected our region.|
|I, also, have been known to bake a batch of chocolate chip cookies, Gail, but I'd never venture into the layer cake milieu. I think you missed my point, tho'; the baking comment was just a bird walk. Eileen used to be a feisty, opinionated, bubbly, fiery, tough and strong independent woman. She is now portrayed as a deferential, passive, submissive, docile whiner. The personality fairy has definitely been at work! Bring the old Eileen back!!|
Yes, you're right Henry! My mistake! Todd would be his step-son. The writers did screw up there, or they made Paul screw up LOL|
I just felt that earthquake! It was apparently 4.8 here in Toronto area, 5.7 at the epicenter which was near Renfrew. Did anyone else feel it?
Actually Gail, the fire scene with Stella in the bedroom and bathroom is the first I have seen of the upstairs bedrooms. I am too young to know about any of the scenes you have mentioned. lol|
What I remember is a kitchen/living room area with a table and a couch. I think there was an ugly painting there one time of when Vernon and Liz got married. Vernon had gotten it for liz and she hated it! Steve and becky would argue a lot there too.
I was trying to find a picture, but I am at work and certain websites are blocked. If you google "rovers return steve liz" there is a photo there of Steve lounging on the couch with Liz standing on the other end wearing a red skirt. There is a table and an Egyptian painting in the background. This is the area that I remember.
|Paul has a nerve thinking of Todd as his step-son before he's even met him. It's clear Jason doesn't feel like a son to him. I don't think grown children ever consider their mother's or father's new mate as a parent. If Paul asks either of Eileen's sons to call him Dad I'll puke. ****UK SPOILER ALERT**** What the heck????? That's regarding Gloria's latest announcement. Corrie has now stretched my disbelief to the breaking point. Can you hear it snapping?|
|Wouldn't Todd be Paul's STEP-SON, rather than his son-in-law? A son-in-law is one who is married to one's daughter. Paul, as Eileen's husband, should they get married, would be in the parental position previously occupied by Todd's dad.|
|Your son-in-law is your daughter's husband. Todd will be Paul's step-son. Paul said he was looking forward to meeting his son-in-law.|
|That would be Eileen's son Todd, Henry. I don't think Paul has ever met Todd. Todd will be Paul's SIL if/when he marries Eileen, won't he?? Is that what you mean?|
Forget the insurance nonsense, then.|
What about Paul looking forward to meeting his SON-IN-LAW?
I recall a few scenes upstairs in the Rovers between Deidre and Liz. The reason I remember is that room they were drinking their wines together looked very large and salon-y type room with white-ish furnishings. We had never seen it before, nor have we seen it since. Does anyone else remember those scenes a few years back???|
Insurance companies can be fickle for sure. There was a home in a small town close to where we live. It was an older couple that retired from the city to renovate a small home on a large country property. At some point a fire broke out..the man ran in with the hose and doused the fire from spreading...which according to the fella that owns the gas station (and knows EVERYTHING that goes on in that town) he should have let it burn down to the ground. As a result the older couple had a huge fight on their hands w/the Insurance company refusing to pay anything. It had dragged on for 3 years ..the only reason the couple got some satisfaction is the Global News ran it for 2 or 3 days and the Giant Insurance company was swamped with complaints and public pressure was put on it. Don't know exactly what happened but when ever I drive through the wee town I see that the house is finished and see the 2 of them sitting outdoors enjoying the country air.
|I forgot to add this to my post and meant to. Melissa, I don't recall seeing the upstairs living area of the Rovers in a long time. I'm assuming you mean the bedrooms? I think we saw it occasionally when Jack and Vera were the owners of the Rovers. (Vera trying to get romantic, Jack pretending to be asleep LOL) I also remember seeing it when there was a fire years ago and Bette Lynch in her leopard print nightgown was rescued by Kevin Webster. She had to puke on camera and she wasn't too thrilled about having to do that LOL|
|Henry, I think the insurance company refusing to pay is very realistic, just as I think Eileen baking is also realistic and doesn't have to mean she's had a visit from the personality fairy! I don't bake regularly but I've been known to the odd muffin or two! And they are sometimes very odd! It can happen that someone who doesn't bake very often, like Eileen, just decides to bake!|
|When Steve and Liz owned the pub, we always got a glimpse of the upstairs living space- Steve, Becky, Liz and Amy having breakfast, Liz and Deidre having a cup of tea or glass of wine, etc. Now since Stella has taken over, we never see upstairs- they are always in the back room. Is there a reason why scenes don't take place upstairs anymore?|
The spare keys to the Rovers were stored BEHIND the bar. Behind the bar is an "Employees Only" area. Therefore Sunita stole the keys (or so the police think). So the keys were obtained illegally (supposedly). Sunita entered the premises illegally (supposedly). And then committed arson (supposedly). This is grounds for the insurance company's refusal to pay? Utter nonsense. Tripe.|
What if the pub had been open and someone had snuck downstairs and started a fire? What's the difference?
And Tiny Fireman thinks Todd is going to be his son-in-law!!!!!
|Pearl - Heavens, I don't recall any of them. Hilda was always a presence somehow with her cleaning.|
|Shirley, the other day Tyrone called Fiz his "wife" when he said she was okay with him going back to work at the garage but they are not married; he just thinks of her as his wife.|
|Mark: I think it was last night Stella said that the insurance co. wouldn't pay because the keys weren't put away out of sight, but it could have been another episode. As for flammable liquids, we all have them in our houses when we paint eg. paint thinner and I think that was what Jason had in the basement. You can't keep paint outside if it's cold so most people have them in the house when they're going to paint. Karl set the fire which led to Sunita's death and could have killed Stella so he's no hero. The fire fighters got them out. Dev. should soon be wondering why Sunita had the keys since he told the police she never had them. Stella lived on the premises and she opened and closed the Rovers.|
|Jeannie, thanks. I was being a little cynical there with my insurance company comment! Mark, true they were storing flammable fluid in the Rovers but a pub is full of flammable booze so you wonder why then would the insurance company cover it at all! Our homes are full of potential fire hazards. There is such a thing as *improper* storage but I don't know that the Rovers was guilty of that. When a fire occurs, the insurance co. will try to find a way to get out of paying! *cynical cynical!*|
|No, Tyrone and Fiz are not married.|
|I must have meant Stella yesterday, not Gloria, sorry. I'll have to catch tonight's show. I just want Karl to be found out. The other day Fiz and Tyrone were talking like they are married. Did that happen?|
Ann from Bethany..saw the first one about 10 days ago, it was a male but only saw him twice on that day, haven't seen him since. we figure he was heading further north so was early. A female arrived here yesterday when it was so cold and windy, hubby saw her. If she is here, there will be males for sure. You'll likely see them this weekend at your place I'll bet. Leanne was very shrewd this evening..it's a good move. It'll certainly bring on a lot of drama b/t her and Carl. She must know what's ahead with Carl as she's already had a taste.|
We haven't seen anything of Maria and Marcus for some time now. I'm enjoying having Kylie back, wish Gail would let all the catty comments end..she should have come to terms w/the predicament BEFORE she returned to live with the kids again. ..and she should have told Sally off yesterday for those rude remarks regarding Kylie. Although I do like Sally (most of the time)she has no right to pass judgement on anyone with her, her hubbys and her kids past.
|Well, don't I feel like a goofball...the pics I was looking at of the "new" Rovers Return were from 1984! The Daily Mail has pics of the real deal Rovers and it looks fantastic!|
Off tropics to Gayle...|
I had a 4 year legal battle with an insurance company.
So my advice is to fight them as much as you can on your own and use the regulators or the Insurance Bureau of Canada etc etc and the company ombudsman first.
2. if you get advice from a lawyer... DO NOT let the lawyer represent you at first otherwise the insurance company will never ever ever talk to you again.
They will clam up and tell you to only communicate via your lawyers (at $400 / hour).
Only let the lawyer communicate with the company as a last resort.
If the insurance company's head office is in another city and you have to go to court, you will have to pay for the lawyer to go to the other city to fight it in court.
Sorry for being so grim. Good luck anyways.
Omini spoiler ***|
Haili I didn't hear that about the keys last night.
Is that what Stella said last night.
I only heard it the first time tonight.
If I was from the Dispicable Insurance Company
I would have said we not paying because you were
storing flammable fluids in the basement.
And why was another business storing tools and flammable
fluids in your basement.
I don't know how the insurance company ever found out
about the keys because Carl but the 8th ball key chain
back in the drawer at Dev's.
The whole key story never made any sense to me.
It's just a jumble of non sense.
Gayle, Thanks for agreeing with me, you're a Corrie Pal.
We finally had some humour with David and Steve and Lloyd and Peter for a change.
In Carl's defence he didn't push Sunita down the stairs. |
She was at the top of the stairs while Carl was busy setting the basement on fire.
After the fire was set Sunita got up and left but she was too impaired (ie drunk) to find her way out.
She was no longer an employee and she had no business in the pub.
2. We never saw Carl kill Sunita.
The doctors said Sunita tried to pull the tube out of her throat and chocked on it.
Carl is innocent until proven guilty and there is no evidence against him.
It's all speculation. No proof.
Carl is just a human with flaws like the rest of them.
|I was wrong re the reason the insurance company will not pay Stella for the repairs. Haili has it right, that is why Karl planted the keys in Sunita's hospital drawer. Still it wouldn't matter who took them from the Rovers as they were improperly stored in the first place. As for when Karl will be found out = it might depend on him mentioning having the keys he is not supposed to know about. I also hope Jason has a part in his undoing even if it takes another 6 months before the truth comes out.|
|OFF TOPIC. ANNETTE from CKL:- Have your hummingbirds come back yet? Mine have not, they're so late.|
It seems that Paul still hasn't learned to call home when he's going to be late. It would save a lot of aggravation if he did - or even texted.|
I loved Leanne's answer to Stella tonight. She's the only one in that family with any common sense.
I think Karl will be around for awhile since the actor's contract still has a few months left -or so I read someplace.
Hi George! Thanks for the answer. It's appreciated!|
Herbert posted: when do the viewers of corrie street feel that the authorities will discover that carl murdered sunita and set fire to the rovers...all your comments would appreciated I've wondered about that too, Herbert. There's all kinds of possibilities. I see Karl either going completely mad under the pressure of his guilty conscience or actually getting involved with another woman and somehow being outed by her. Anything could happen!
What I would like to see happen is for Leeann and Jason to find some proof of his guilt.
|Jeannie: SPOILER: She had a "windfall". It was on yesterday's UK eppy so we should see it the Tues. after next.|
Lisa, Eileen has never pretended to have any culinary skills whatever, so when I saw her mixing up the cake for Paul I was convinced that the personality fairy had most assuredly transformed Eileen. First she has become a frightened, meek mouse, afraid to let Paul do his job, blubbering openly when he's out of her sight. She used to be a strong, vocal, opinionated, independent woman who would go to the wall for someone she loved. People were afraid of her. And now she's BAKING?!! I'm sure she turned on the "broil" rather than the "bake"! |
|Lisa, Karl wanted to set the Rovers on fire so that Jason would be blamed and Stella would dump Jason and take him back. That's what he told Sunita when she followed him in the Rovers and Sunita told him he was mad. He didn't have any plans of killing Sunita. He pushed her down the stairs when she confronted him then he tried to wake her up but cowardly ran and left her for dead when there was an explosion. He killed her later because she could have revealed that he is the one who started the fire and he would have been accused of murder since the firefighter died. Does anyone know how many times the set of the Rovers was redesigned? Even before the fire it was clearly different from what it looked like in the sixties.|
|Remind me, why did Karl want the Rovers burnt? Was it to kill Su nee'a?|
|For anyone interested, there are pics posted of the inside of the renovated Rovers Return on the Digital Spy site. I've just looked at them and the place looks more like a cafe now than a pub. All the charm and atmosphere looks to have vanished. Not impressed at all.|
Herbert fr Montreal..According to another post earlier this week, Carl has been signed on the show for another 6 mons so it would appear it will be a while before his dasturdley deeds surface.|
Lisa..Rob wants Peter to use all the new equipment to run the bookies, so Peter told Rob to just try first to run it w/o all the fancy technical stuff and handed him a pen and a notepad and told him to put the kettle on.
about Eileen's cake burning on the top only. I could be all wrong but some of those gas ovens have the heat top and bottom, she may have just had the top one on.
Less than 1.5 hours before our show airs in Ontario.
|Terry, thanks for the heads up regarding tonight's eppie. I shall look forward to it. Leeanne has been getting on my nerves lately but I love the way she sees right through Karl!|
|If the bookies has a fancy-dancy new coffee machine (it does dispense tea doesn't it?) why did Peter have Rob putting kettle on?|
|They had it wrong with the burning cake Eileen was making. Left in an oven too long and the cake would be burned on the bottom too if the top was burned. They showed it burnt on the top only.|
|Tonight's episode from Canada (Thursday) will have a great ending i.m.o. Leanne will be a hero, Yes I said Leanne, and well yes a hero to all of us, except Mark. :-) :-)|
Aggravation!!! I found that it does matter which DVR/cable company you use, as to whether you can count on Corrie being taped. I changed to a cheaper service and it makes a difference. I also lost the whole tv service last night due to an "upgrade" in the works. So I am very glad of the extra Sunday and midnight viewings. I watched Corrie with breakfast today. And I now understand why some of us have more trouble than others with the changing schedules. It may be the service or the fact the listings don't show Coronation street, so some DVRs may miss it. Glad Paul didn't carry Eileen over the threshold. :-)|
Why doesn't Gail realize that David gets the baby he wanted, as long as he never finds out if it is Nick's? It is really unlikely it would ever come out, as they are brothers, and so it wouldn't be evident in looks or family traits. Blood types and family history wouldn't be likely to make a difference.... Unethical as it may be, if everyone keeps their mouth shut, they all could live happily ever after. Unless Nick decides to claim the baby later. (A good reason Corrie can continue for many years to come...to be resolved in 2-21 years)
OFF TOPIC: I read with interest the earlier posts about Brit dramas and Britcoms. I recently enjoyed viewing Thick as Thieves. It’s an eight-episode 1974 Britcom which takes place in the West London borough of Fulham. It's from London Weekend Television and features:
* a future film star - Bob Hoskins (Who Framed Roger Rabbit) * a future TV detective - John Thaw (Morse) * two former 'On the Buses' actors - Pat Ashton (Doreen) and Michael Robbins (Arthur) * and a future Corrie favourite - Johnny Briggs (Mike Baldwin)
Synopsis: Having served a three-year jail sentence, small-time house burglar George Dobbs (Bob Hoskins) is released from prison one day earlier than expected. But when he arrives back at his Fulham terraced house, it is his best friend and fellow crook, Stan (John Thaw), who opens the door - topless, his face covered in shaving foam, and wearing Dobbs’ pyjama bottoms. :-0
It’s immediately apparent that while Dobbs has been ‘doing time’, Stan has been 'doing his missus'. However, wife Annie has affections for both men and a reluctant agreement is reached; resulting in a delicate ménage-à-trois. ☺
My thought is the insurance company is refusing to pay Stella because she decided to go ahead with Owen doing the rebuild even though his bid was NOT the lowest and the insurance co had Not agreed he should get the job.|
Hi Daphne, there has been a long line of Rover cleaners since Hilda eg. Judy's mum, Vera's mum, Sandra Stubbs (no relation to Charlie), Edna (who died in Doug Fergison's bed) and other's I don't remember. Hilda was far and away the most memerable.
|Henry: I thought I heard that the insurance co. wasn't paying because Stella left the spare keys hanging where anyone could get them and they think Sunita took them and set the fire. It is a technicality IMO but insurance companies do all they can to avoid paying and sometimes the claimant needs a lawyer to get what's coming. It was really stupid of Stella not to settle all that before giving Owen the job so she kind of deserves it.|
Gail, I couldn't agree with you more regarding insurance companies. And once you make a claim, your premiums go up to cover said claim. It's quite the racket, isn't it? |
Daphne, Karl did offer his services to Owen, said he'd work for free to contribute to the cause. He's SO wonderful.|
Gail, I loved your comment re insurance companies!
Gloria seems quite flush. Does anyone know where she's getting her money?
|(((((((Jubbly)))))))‼ love ya girl!☺|
|If you have fire insurance you are most certainly covered in the event of arson. The only exceptions would be if you set the fire yourself or contracted someone else to set the fire for you. At this point in time I have to assume that there must be some sort of technicality. Maybe Stella missed a few payments, or maybe she forgot to renew her policy, etc.|
I am assuming the insurance won't pay out because it was arson. So when Karl was trying to force Stella's hand with "walking into a burning building" what he really meant was, after I have deprived you of home and livelihood and everything you owned; I tried before and failed but this time I have made it in spades. What a winner! No wonder Stella clings to him:-) Is he working by the way or is he still living off the backs of others?|
Personally I was never sold on Stan because I dislike lazy layabouts but Hilda has ever been my favourite character. I think she was the last person to clean the Rovers. Maybe it's good that it burned down:-)
Mark, I completely agree with your comments about Sally. What a witch and such a complete hypocrite she is. She had a sickening affair with her boss at the car dealership so she could keep Rosie at Oakhill. What Gail's family does is none of her business. As I was watching I kept thinking keep your voice down they will hear you.|
Mark you were also right about the insurance. Stella should have had brains enough to find out if they would pay out before she went ahead with getting the work done. My husband and I are having problems with an insurance company right now.
|G'day peeps. Jubbly here from the Land of Oz, nipping in to say it has been 15 years since I first posted here, 1998. Mainly due to the Corrie Chat, I have met some wonderful peeps, have travelled across Canada, staying with COrrie pals, as have they stayed with me in Oz. Was in Manchester for the 50th year of Corrie and am now in UK for the 50th year of Doctor Who. Any road up, just wanted to say how happy I was and am to be part of this group. Oh just had a squiz at the GB Chronicles from years back and yes, I am there lol. Miss the Lanky Powms, dont get here often so do not know if Frank has popped his head in. Hugs xox Love Jubbly from Oz but currently in UK x|
|I enjoyed seeing Kylie back. There should be some sort of compensation for loss of trade coming to Gloria, shouldn't there? She should try for a bank loan. If it was a good business before, they should be willing.|
omini spoiler ***|
I thought Sally was a real misery guts looking down on Kylie and David.
As if she's jealous of their young love and future.
They are guests in David and Kylie's house and should be more respectful of the homeowners (Kylie and David).
... omnin spoiler ....
I TOLD YOU SO: I knew the insurance wouldn't pay up.
How come Jason didn't burn his hand on the hot stove top?
Didn't Eva just come back from holidays???
You're welcome Vixen.
That's interesting Leah.
Well I am now Julie.
|I'm enjoying the side bet between Steve and Peter on who will break first Peter or Rob. It is the type of 'soft filler' story that brings out the personality of the characters without drastic results. Steve popping in daily to the bookies to encourage Rob and needle Peter is fun to watch. With the Rovers out of commission for the forseeable future, the second string venues are being seen more. There was a time, years ago, when scenes in the corner shop were in nearly every episode. Had a laugh at Gail and Sally snid remarks at the table while David and Kylie were 10 feet away in the living room. Guess evesdropping only occurs when necessary to a storyline.|
|Just when I said we don't see much of Sally it was nice to see her and Gail chatting, and it cracked me up when someone said that David will make a good dad - "if he is the dad."|
|Mark and Vixen (I love the screen name Vixen) Henry Wakefield lived in Hilda's house for a short time between Eddie Yeats and Kevin and Sally. I'm not surprised people can't remember him, partly because of his brief stay and partly because there's so little about him on the internet. I only found him by searching 'strike-breaker on Coronation Street'. What came up was an obviously angry union supporter calling him a SCAB. I only remembered him (but not by name) because when he was on in 1985 I was house-sitting and dog-sitting for my parents while they were on holiday. At that time they either didn't have a VCR or it wasn't working, so I had to watch every show and write down what happened. Guess that helped me recall something about him.|
Thank you, Mark, for accessing your phenomenal Corrie memory and putting my search to rest. |
|Mark: Meaning that you're not now....?|
Vixen and Leah stop searching when I started watching Corrie Kevin was renting a room from Hilda and Sally came to visit him.|
It's true because I was alive back then.
|Leah from GTA: Well its a good thing you found Mr Wakefield. I don't recall ever hearing the name. Still its amazing how popular Hilda was/is. I bought a clock with Hilda on the front of it last Saturday in Orangeville.|
|Vixen and Selby. After some searching I've found it. It was Henry Wakefield. He was only there for a short time in 1985. He thought he could get away with pretending to work, but Curly recognized him from the library and he was outed as a strike-breaker. Hilda had got him a job at the factory, but the girls refused to work with him and Mike Baldwin had to let him go. According to Corriepedia, Hilda liked having him in her house but he didn't feel he could stay. I thought I remembered Hilda saying, very quietly that she was sorry, but he couldn't. However, that was almost 30 years ago. Thank you for helping me look.|
Leah, I think that Hilda rented a room out to Kevin and Sally after Stan died. I'm looking for independent evidence of this, but haven't found anything substantive yet, but will keep looking. |
BTW, the quotes from Jean Alexander (aka, Hilda Ogden) were made in 2010, so she wasn't even referencing many of the OTT story lines that came after that.
|Leah from GTA: I think you are referring to Kevin Webster who had a great head of hair in those days. Might be some time before we see him again|
|I remember Eddie Yeats, but the person I was talking about came after Stan had died. Blacklisted by his union for being desperate enough to work during a strike, he was unable to find other work. While staying with Hilda, he was going to the library every day so she would think he was working. Then she found out he had been a strike-breaker and made him leave. It must have been in the late eighties. Gosh it seems so long ago. Plots didn't drag out so long then, so maybe the guy I'm thinking of wasn't there that long.|
|vixen: I totally agree with your comments re. Leanne. The actress does a great job. It's too bad Leanne never has much to smile about as she just lights up when she smiles.|
I thought the exchange between Karl and Leanne so encapsulated the Leanne character and kudos to Jane Danson for a great performance. When Karl was threatening and bullying Leanne she stood tough and showed her defiant, edgy, in-your-face character that she needed to stand up to Karl. But when he left, fright showed on her face and she deflated a bit, with her eyes tearing up and we saw the soft Leanne underneath -- a side she rarely shows these days. She has had to be strong and fight for herself most of her life and that tiny moment captured both sides of the character. I felt sympathy for her, something I haven't felt for Leanne for quite a while. Well done! |
Sharon from Hamilton: I liked the older characters more than than current ones with the possible exception of Norris Emily Rita and Audrey. Actually these 4 are older characters as well as current.|
I don't think Hilda and Stanley's chats or Vera and Jacks arguments would fit in very well as much as I don't like saying it. They would be too friendly, personable and folksy compared to the Carlas, Peters, Tinas, Stellas and Karls. They are harder types capable of not reacting to petty events. Owen might fit both categories I guess.
|I'm trying to get caught up and sorry if this has been mentioned...BUT how in the world did Stella & Karl afford a trip to Cornwall? Makes no sense‼ : ( Oh boy! all this talk about "Jam & Jerusalem/Clatterford" is making me want to buy it right now! I LOVE Dawn French, I already have the entire 'Vicar of Dibley' collection‼ : ) AND all of 'Ab Fab' as well!...I LOVE Jennifer & Joanna too ☺‼|
|Lynne..I thought the 'look' b/t Kiley & Nick was Kiley's way of letting him know what sex the baby was. David was teasing Gail with BBBboy GGGirl thing, when he repeated GGGgirl that's when I noticed Kiley smile/nod to Nick.|
|I was one of the few who wasn't crazy about Stan and Hilda but maybe it's because I hardly ever got to watch Corrie back then. I'm not complaining this week because we've had a break from the obnoxious Faye and Anna and have hardly seen Sophie. Even Karl and Tracy are refreshing after the past few weeks and I like the actor who plays Karl. He was really menacing with Leanne and Jason. Rob and Peter should have a good p...... contest at the b. shop. Too bad Ken's away and we don't see much of Sally these days.|
|Yes I remember Geoffrey Hughes - hard to believe it's almost a year since he passed away.|
|Leah, the Ogdens' boarder was Eddie Yates (actor, Geoffrey Hughes).|
|Apologies Selby - It was the spelling "Augie" that threw me off there! I only remember them as Stan and Hilda Ogden...I thought you were talking about a different character altogether. I don't know though about them not fitting in currently - I quite enjoy all the current older characters and wish we could see much more of them in the storylines!|
|Maybe Stella thinks that the price of drinks are just pennies compared to the amount of debt she is in and is about to incur. However, we all know it is not the point of the expensive drinks, rather than the setting and conversation that takes place.|
|Leah from GTA: Augie was the name his friends called him. His real name was Stanley as I recall. I think the fellow you are talking about was Eddie Yates later known as Onslow.|
|Gayle: Maybe they are all eligible for UI benefits. Just a thought.|
|Hey Leah. You're probably thinking of Eddie Yeats.|
I'm not happy to see Gail and her crew back again. I have not missed them at all. What I don't understand is where do Gloria, Karl and Stella get the money to have large drinks in the Bistro. Even Norris was complaining about how high the prices are. Yes we can see how well Rob is going to run the bookies the first night he is left on his own Tracey starts mauling him and they shut the shop ugh. Are we to assume that Tracey is still living with her parents?|
Not to be a constant complainer but I would love to see more scenes with Kirk, Beth, Craig, Lloyd and Steve. Much less of Stella and creepy Karl. I love the fact that Leeanne has no use for Karl doesn't want her Mum hurt again yet goofy Gloria thinks he is wonderful and she should marry him straight away. They have no money how are they going to pay for a wedding. Sorry if I come across so grumpy but this nasty weather is getting to me and Corrie is rather dull right now. I'm sure it will pick up soon.
On a positive note I loved the little scene at dinner with Fizz, Tommy and Tyronne laughing and enjoying themselves nice.
|Selby, is Augie short for Ogden, ie Stan Ogden? For some reason I've also been thinking of a man who boarded with Hilda. They were getting to like each other. During a strike he held out as long as he could but poverty forced him to go back to work. Hilda threw him out because he was a strike-breaker. Does that ring a bell with anyone? Darned if I can think of the guy's name.|
PVR/DVR -- My dvr (from my cable company) lets me record by title and not time so I have it set to record Coronation Street as a series in the "record series" section of my DVR button and it finds it no matter what time it moves. The east seems to get it at 6:30 fairly consistently so far, I think and I am getting the show recorded no matter what time it has been airing. It is also so smart it knows not to record repeats! Not sure if this helps anyone but it works for me.|
SPOILER***Stella is stupid and Karl is a kreep -- my alliteration for today. I was glad to see Leeann hold her ground, that edgy personality may prove useful in this instance. So many undesirable men on that street IMO - Karl, Paul (he looks so "delicate" for a firefighter), Owen, Tim, Rob, Norris (haha), Gary, to name a few. Nice to see Kiley and David back, did Gail go on medication? She was so happy about the baby, and the knowing looks between Nick and Kiley, something is stirring.
|Shirley: Read your post about the eldery couple that went missing, looked for it on the news. I'm glad they are safe and ok, but my goodness, why is an 84 yr old with dementia allowed to still be driving? Even if his wife is lucid, that's a huge worry to family and friends - I hope he realizes it's time to take the carkeys away.|
I can't remember the year I started watching Corrie on a regular. I do remember having my oldest daughter (she will be 42 end of this month)we had moved out of Toronto to a town named Uxbridge when she was 2 yrs. old. With no antenna I was able to receive 3 or 4 channels..channel 5 CBC (Coronation Street)being one of them but I found it too old and slow and opted for General Hospital(i think it was called)one of the nurses was preggers and so was I so I watched it at 3pm every afternoon while my daughter slept.|
The other day I was shopping in our new Target store and saw a 2 disc DVD of Corrie 1968-69. ..and their first colour episode. It was $10. so I will watch it at some point and judge for myself if the show was better than it is now. Course I may not put it on till fall as we spend ALOT of our time outdoors in the nice weather (if we get it back!)
Karl did frighten Leanne but she put up a good front. Although I'm not a fan of hers, I felt a wee bit sorry for her.
|Selby, who is/was Augie? I can't recall!|
|Leah from GTA: I was thinking that Hilda and Augie wouldn't fit into today's program even if the actors could and wanted to return.|
Selby, thank you for arousing my interest in this. I found the article about Jean Alexander that you mentioned. She's saying things that we've said on this GB. Here's another quotation of hers from wikipedia. In response, the producers said they disagreed because millions of people still watch the show. Don't know about others. I still watch, but don't enjoy it as much as I did in Hilda Ogden's time. Case in point, I've heard they hired John Michie to keep playing Karl for six months so his storyline can drag and on even though we already know who dunnit. That drives me crazy.|
"Times have changed and there are things going on in Weatherfield now that Hilda definitely wouldn't have approved of! People keep asking if I will ever go back to the Street but I definitely won't because I don't think it ever really works when people go back again. I know the programme tries to reflect life and in Hilda's time it was more simple and cosy. Today, life and attitudes have changed and permissiveness has crept up on us. So now it is all about who's sleeping with whom. The programme may reflect life, but equally young people are being influenced by what they see in it. Even girls of 13 think they absolutely must have boyfriends, otherwise people will think they aren't normal. Youngsters get rushed into things too quickly before they have had a chance to live. I don't like so much emphasis on sex. I also wish there was more fun in Coronation Street. There used to be much more comedy. And whereas a storyline would usually be played out within three weeks, today certain storylines seem to drag on for ever. I'm glad I was there in those earlier, more gentle years. I enjoyed my time as Hilda and it is lovely that viewers still remember her with such affection."
|Gail from Toronto. I just found a british comedy called Hebburn. It is very funny.|
Leah from GTA. Can't find the exact quote from the actor but she apparently thinks the program is a little too relationship orientated. Here is the closest thing I could find tonight,|
Thanks Annette. I will enjoy her while she's there. I hope Jennifer Saunders is though, I really like her too.|
Shirley, that's good news. I Wish we could have had a happy ending for Tim Bosma and his family . Such a strange and tragic story, more to it than we know about too I suspect. Police say he was *targeted* and I'm not exactly sure what that means. Just for the truck? They think he knew the guys who took him or police have evidence of that? Now the painful process begins for his family hoping to get some kind of answers as to why this happened if that is possible, and try to go on without him. He leaves behind a little 2 year old daughter, so very sad and tragic. :(
|missed today's Corrie so guess I will watch at midnight. Waiting, hoping Karl will get his comeuppance. I don't like bad behavior to be gotten away with. OFF TOPIC Luckily the elderly couple that was missing in northern AB has been found and brought to hospital. Their vehicle had got stuck in mud? and he walked a ways ( they found him laying? in a ditch) and she had stayed in the vehicle. I believe they are o.k.|
..and Mark, your answer was more dramatic. lol :)|
put me down as not liking hockey either.
Gail...unfortunately Joanne Lumley is not in the entire series.
It's ok Leah, you had info in yours that I didn't.
Angie, kls and myself don't like hockey either.
Angie, you're welcome.|
Selby, I may have missed something or am just being dense. Please explain why you said Rob and Tracy reminded you of why Hilda won't be back.
|Thank-you to Mark and Leah for the catch-up. There is a hockey game on?????? Hehe, I don't watch that stuff!|
|Mark, sorry, we must have been typing our answers at the same time. I didn't mean to butt in.|
|Angie, Carla bought Leanne's share of the bookies and installed Rob as Peter's associate. You can see how that's working. They hate each other. I don't remember if anyone has said this on the show, but I'd suspect that just maybe Carla wanted Rob out from under her feet at the factory. I'm not holding my breath to see if Peter and Rob will ever be able to get along, but stranger things have happened. Rob has already made a lot of modernizing changes to the bookies.|
Hi Angie, since everyone else is busy watching Hockey I'll answer your question
Carla bought out Leanne's share of from the bookies. I think Carla was worried that she'd lose Peter to Leanne
Then Carla saw that Peter wasn't making much profit
(because he's always closing the shop)
so she sent Rob to improve the shop's income
and his solution is to offer (my idea) coffee
but then he closes the shop like Peter would.
|Sorry to be behind the times but.... have been away for a week and could someone please tell me how Rob is at the Bookies and not at the knicker factory?|
|Well I finally got to see yesterdays program and todays. The usual good stuff I think. The chat between Tracy and Rob reminded me of why we won't see Hilda again.|
|I also watched some clips of Jam and Jerusalem on youtube and LOVE IT! Can't wait to see it on Vision on Thursday night but I'd like to catch it right from the beginning if possible. Joanna Lumley was so funny in the clip I watched which I think was the very first episode. What an actress she is! I recognized the actress who played Colin Fishwick's mother on Corrie too, not sure of her name, but she's a brilliant actress, and of course, Sue Johnson. I think both my husband and I will enjoy this series. Now that we've seen all of Doc Martin, we need another series to get into and I think this one will be perfect!|
If I had a bigger budget I could stop some hearts from bleedin'|
I'd buy a great big bucket for the Leafs to hold a lead in.
by AJ Godfrey (OK, so now you know my real name)
|And did I say Kylie's back !|
Back to the important RING topic...
whether or not Gary bought the ring from a pan shop
He paid 200 pounds for it so it must be a gold plated ring.
A real ring costs a lot more.
Gold is expensive
Omni spoiler ...
So Rob's solution to getting more customers is to lock the door to snog Tracy.
And the coffee was my idea, I posted it long ago.
I started to lose my appetite seeing Paul again.
But it was nice to see Kylie and David again.
I hope Carl gets rid of Leanne for us.
Admit I read ahead on the legitimate sites to know what's coming and look for harbingers as the plot lines progress and also on the speculative sites to have a good laugh at the imaginative (sometimes bizarre) possible plot lines.
|Quess I'm a half & half when it come to looking ahead. I will read spoilers, even search out who's going and coming etc. but do NOT view ahead on youtube. It would be so easy as that is how I watch Emmerdale and Corrie is usually listed on the same page. All you viewers in the East who have CBC messing with the schedual should latch on to the youtube episodes, watch at your convenience 21 minutes with no commercials. Can't beat it as a time saver.|
|I am one who does not like to know in advance what is going to happen. I much prefer to see it unfold on the screen. It upsets me to no end when I see a spoiler. It is impossible to "unsee" it. :(|
|Haili: I guess it just depends on where you live for now.|
So we are back to 6:30 for now and I'm guessing until this series is over. I must re-set the VCR yet again. SPOILER**|
I don't mind reading ahead and sometimes do but I understood that we have to put SPOILER because of people who watch only on Sunday. Why they would read a forum if they don't want to know what's going on is a mystery to me but I try to go with the flow.
It seems that Leanne and Jason are the only 2 people who see through Karl. Eva hasn't been around much lately so I wonder how she feels. Surely she would be just as disapproving of Karl as Leanne but she is a bimbo so who knows.
It was nice to see the Platts for a change and the bookie shop with Peter, Rob, etc.
|I've decided, after closer scrutiny, that Paul's jacket is too tight on him but the collar is too big!|
|Laurel: I hope Hayley listened! We don't know yet though, because she was to be leaving near the end of the year.|
|Gail by the time Hockey is over, it's going to be the winter olympics taking up our Corrie screen time.|
Step right up and buy a reliable PVR ! PVR !
Ha ! they won't fool me, I won't turn the TV on at 6:30 pm. Well ok I'll peak.
|Monique: My PVR also recorded hockey in the corrie time slot last night, but then today I noticed that it had automatically adjusted itself and recorded the missing episode at 12.00am this morning, so I didn't miss the episode after all.|
Corrie is on in 37 mins according to the guide.|
Annette: El oh el.....we are all slightly bonkers.
|Hey Jude. Sick is the word for what happened to Tim Bosma. I'm praying for his family. Just hope the murderer or murderers get what they deserve. There was no reason to kill him to get his truck. They could have waited until they found an unoccupied vehicle. With all the murders we joke about on Corrie, it sure hits hard when a real one occurs.|
Annette and Sharon, taking your suggestions, I watched an episode of J & J on YouTube and enjoyed it immensely. Another on of the ensemble actresses, Maggie Steed, was a familiar face that I've seen in many productions -- Lark Rise to Candleford, New Tricks, Born & Bred, Foyle's War, Midsomer Murders -
- all of which I've watched. She was also on Coronation Street in 1970, playing the role of Ellen Smith, altho' I didn't catch that performance. |
As far as spoilers go, we aren't that far behind the UK right now and can generally see the trend a story line is taking. However, even when we were a year behind, I didn't mind hearing what was coming up. I'm the person who will get to the middle of a novel and then read the end to see how it all ends, before going back and reading the entire story. Sometimes I'm so curious about what going to happen that I can't appreciate the story as it's unfolding, so I just read the end and be done with it! I don't think I'm alone it that.
|Did we not read some time ago that Haley was leaving. I sent a twitter message to her asking her to reconsider. You don't suppose she listened to me do you?|
Would be great if the Sens can pull it off, so GO SENS GO!!LOL I don't mind Spoilers. If someone tells me, it doesn't matter to me, but I don't seem to ever go looking to see what's going to unfold either. It just doesn't matter either way to me!LOL :)|
Good God there's some sick people out there. Thinking of the Bosma family today :(
|Go Sens is RIGHT TerryM! They're our big hope now!|
|Sharon, it would be an interesting poll to take. Thanks for suggesting it. I've been reading ahead for years and am now strictly a UK viewer via youtube. Even being up to date isn't enough. I still look at spoilers to try to get a jump on the UK eppies.|
Off Topic: Curiousity got the better of me and I YouTubed Jam and Jerusalem. I have to start watching this show. So many talented actresses! Especially glad to see Pauline McLynne. I too missed Corrie yesterday because the guide said 6:30 -no worries I watch the whole week again every Sunday LOL!|
As a general question - I have always read ahead of the Canadian timeline - do most of you not like to know what is coming up? Or are you like me and have to know everything as soon as possible! :)
Damn hockey eh? :-) Go Sens!|
Graham would have been so proud of his beloved Red Wings too.
|kls, there are numerous time shift options with Rogers too so there's always another chance to see Corrie and of course, there is always the Omni on Sunday! I love it! Until these playoffs are over, everyone should just watch the schedules carefully.|
kls...yes, my pal is on sattelite and she has different time options thru-out the day.|
Vixen..as Daphne said Dawn French (rosie) plays a bit of a schitzo(sp?)but you will FALL IN LOVE with her character. She also plays a TOTALLY different character in 'The Vicar of Dibley'...she is the Vicar.
Julie..no you are not nuts b/c that would mean I am too.LOL :)
|I am getting annoyed at Karl looming up out of nowhere and giving threatening looks to people and in some cases, threatening them. The pressure he is putting on poor dim Stella is unreal. It wasn't that long ago she turfed him out of the pub for those same lines he was spewing last night and now she believes it. The woman must be braindead from smoke inhalation suffered during her dubious rescue. I can get Gloria eating up the tripe he dishes out because she always did support him over her own kid but Stella lapping up that same tripe just doesn't make sense - gratitude only goes so far. I've been reading all the troubles everyone has with scheduling. Thank heavens I have a dish and get 4 time zones and can choose when to watch. Last night, I watched at 10PM my time, although I cannot remember what station beyond east. Tonight probably will do the same. It seems they are gonna drag this danged hockey out as long as possible - most match-ups have gone 7 games and I suspect every future series will do the same to make up for the air time that wasn't wasted on hockey for most of the winter, Just lovely since the final will be in July and the new season starts in late August.......BLECH!!!!|
Thanks, Daphne, for your thumbs up regarding Jam & Jerusalem. I'm definitely going to give it a try on Vision TV this Thursday. |
I'm not sure why TPTB would edit out William Roache's already filmed scenes but perhaps the dialogue or plot line in someway references the situation he finds himself in. I can't see any harm, otherwise, in letting the scenes run their course and simply writing him out of future story lines until his own story line has concluded. Unusual decision.
|Outrageously Off Topic..Congratulations to Canadian Astronaut Chris Hadfield for your constant broadcasts from space and your rendition of Space Oddity. Going on to NASA.com to watch you all land..Am I nuts?....LOL|
Henry - It was my understanding that it was the old ring. Why whoever took it would sell it to a pawnbroker so near the theft puzzles me. I thought at first, like someone else on the GB, that Gary took it deliberately to "find" and win brownie points with Tina but the receipt seems to knock that in the head. Mind you Lewis knew a pawnbroker so maybe Gary does too.|
vixen13 (I think) - Jam and Jerusalem aka Clatterford is hilarious. It also has Dawn French in it as a bit of a schizo. They are a really zany bunch. Lot of familiar faces from British comedy.
I set my VCR to record at midnight..yahoo! it was on!!|
Checked with Corrie on-line just now and it's saying it's on at 6:30pm this evening like it was SUPPOSE to be on yesterday at that time. I'm hoping. I haven't watched it yet but did see Jason & Karl's wee chat in the street.
When I checked for the time to view today..there was a bit of a spoiler saying that Leanne will see a dark side of Karl in today's eppie.
Monique, you described my dilemma exactly. This was the first time my PVR wasn't able to suss out the time and channel for the night's presentation of Coronation Street. I finally watched the midnight Detroit feed at 9:00 p.m. Pacific time. The original taping showed up in my list as Coronation Street, but turned out to be the hockey game. First time that's happened! I'm wondering if the wedding ring Tina is so attached to is the one Gail gave her dad or the one her mom gave her dad. I had thought that her parents' marriage had ended badly which would beg the question as to why she'd be so nostalgic about the ring. I'd presume it would be more of a keepsake for Gail if it's the one she gave him when they married. Just curious.|
Looks like Karl is starting to unravel. I hope this means he's eventually going to have to answer for him crimes.
I think Karl wants to marry Stella to own half the pub and have more control over her. He was very controlling when he locked her in the car that time. She wouldn't have to testify against him either if he ever got found out.|
How many times do women have to go to those baby classes? My generation didn't have them. I think Gary must have found the ring at the pawn shop. He probably learned a lot in jail, including where to sell stolen goods so he'd know where to go to find it.
|Hey Mark. Thanks for that info. I was under the impression that Gary was just lying about the amount he paid for the ring and that was the reason we got a quick glimpse at the receipt. So we're supposed to believe he bought a new ring, had it engraved and Tina didn't notice the difference? He did get a quick peek at it one day in the builder's yard. He was joking about using a wedding ring to determine the sex of the baby but wondered where in the world they could find one around there. Tina quickly showed him her Dad's that she ALWAYS wore on a chain around her neck. So from that 10 sec peek Gary was able to find an exact duplicate and have it engraved with the same font? Could happen I guess.|
|I was thinking that Karl pressuring Stella into marrying him was so that he would own half of the pub. He would be landlord then he would be able to rub that into Jason's face. The pressure is not only mounting from Jason, but also from Karl himself by just being near the Rover's. Perhaps he thinks marriage would take his mind off of things and make him feel more secure.|
|Well I also looked at the tv schedule which said Corrie was on at 6:30 pm, which I thought was odd since all last week it had been on at 3:30 pm. Anyway, yes got hockey, but I watched it at midnight. Karl sure was ticked that Stella would not commit to loving him and getting married like "right now". Shades of nasty things to come?? Loved the big speech about doing anything for her and running into the burning Rovers. Gee, if you had not lit the thing on fire..........!!!.|
|Best wishes Monique. SPOILER ALERT Karl is very threatening. I'm glad Paul is back but don't know how they'll do with Eileen being so afraid of his job. I think I couldn't make out a few phrases in the show so am not sure of some of the things that went on. My computer seems to be doing weird stuff ( bigger font and different). I didn't ask it to.|
The PVR did a strange thing tonight. I have it set to record Corrie every day and it will usually do that no matter what time Corrie comes on. Well it recorded something and the title of what it recorded is "Coronation Street episode 8115" which is tonight's episode. But when I played it there was hockey instead. I just happened to catch Corrie at midnight by fluke. Karl is disgustingly manipulative and it sickens me to see Stella falling for it. He's milking the hero in the fire thing to the max. My ex-husband put pressure on me to marry him like that when I was 20 and got into a huff when I said I was too young. He told me the same thing that marrying him was the only way to convince him that I really loved him because his heart had been broken before, blah, blah, blah.I'm telling you if someone ever tried to pull something like that again I would chuck him and run so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. Boy, sometimes Corrie really touches a nerve!|
Speaking of which, I finally started divorce proceedings and my lawyer sent documents to my ex-husband which he signed. I signed too and we didn't have to see each other. My lawyer deposited the documents in court and now I just have to wait a few months for a judge to finalize the divorce. It took a long time but it's finally getting done.
|Gail - I know for a fact that Bill Roache's scenes that he had already filmed, were also edited out of future episodes. So, they certainly didn't waste any time. A bit much i.m.o.|
|I'm not sure what went wrong with the PVR but no Corrie so far tonight. I'm trying for another broadcast at midnight. Not too bored by recent shows which I think means things are speeding up or getting more interesting. Now is about the time I'd look forward to Liz returning but I guess that isn't going to happen.|
Thank you, Annette and NEWatt, for the heads up about Clatterford, aka Jam & Jerusalem. I've seen the trailers on Vision TV and noted that it's on every Thursday at 5:30, right after EastEnders. I'm going to give it a try this week. |
Gail we did check the CBC schedule and it said Monday at 6:30 pm.|
You're right about checking it daily.
Pearl, Tina once showed him the ring when she was at the gate of the yard and she had the ring on a neck chain
and she told him the inscription that was in it.
Whoever I don't know how Gary could know the size without being able to measure it to tell a jeweler.
I wouldn't know myself.
The price on the receipt was 200 pounds so that can't be an expensive ring.
Even the Pown shop would have sold it at the going rate.
Any ideas why the ring was so cheap?
|_Clatterford_ is the same series as _Jam and Jerusalem_ - different titles for different audiences...|
|Thought it funny when Steve and Lloyd were talking about Paul's jackets, the number he had and the colours. Exactly what I was thinking about them.|
Hi Mark, It did cross my mind that Gary may have bought a wedding band and had the inscription put on that Tina talking about all to gain her favor. Still he would have had to know if the band was gold or white gold, wide or narrow, even how many carets to look the same. If it was from a ponshop, like Henry? said, he could have alerted the police of stolen goods and not have to pay for it. At least with the reciept (from where ever) it means he didn't break into Tina's and steal it in the first place.|
Tommy & Tyrone chatting over supper & clicking beer cans was pretty close to ladies having a natter over the tea pot. Quite the everyday reasuring scene.
Does Karl's desire to marry Stella NOW come from fear of Jason getting her attention again OR having her as a spouse so she can't testify against him if he ends up in court? Maybe he wouldn't be in such a rush if he knew what was in the letter from the insurance company. Me thinks Stella's "things will get better" will have to wait while things get worse.
|Thanks very much Annette! I try to use common sense whenever I can LOL Glad to hear you had a great Mother's Day!|
|The Rogers onair schedule has Corrie listed as on at 6:30 PM and at midnight tonight but that's not the way it happened. It was on at 3 PM. It is listed at 3 PM on the CBC online schedule and also at 12 midnight. I would trust the CBC schedule before I would trust the Rogers online schedule. Tomorrow CBC has Corrie listed in it's usual 6:30 timeslot. They told us it would be on at 3 PM until July 1st, so maybe you can't count on that. Best to check it daily to be sure you don't miss it.|
|YEP Mark :)|
I'm trying to catch up on reading the GB..been busy most of the weekend. Thought I would comment b/f I forget.|
Hi Gail...just so you know. I did not think you were being anything but informative when you wrote your post about VCR's and PVR's. I've always appreciated your posts as you use 'common sense' :)...something that is refreshing.
...and yes, I had a lovely Mother's day thankyou..we spent it with our 4 kids, their mates and our 6grandchildren. Glad you were with your family too.
And hope you all had a lovely Mother's Day!
Vixen....yes, I have seen Sue Johnston (Gloria)....TOTALLY LOVED her in a series named 'Clattersford'. She played a nurse and main character. You'd love it too. NOTHING like the Gloria character. I got it from my local library.
|Thanks for your reply Julie|
Annette did you write "What the Fish?"
I thought I taught I was having Halucinations with the CBC schedule.
I checked the schedule yesterday as I need to plan my life.
I can see another PVR sales pitch coming on.
I hope the archeology show is on TVO.
I love they interpret a pile of rocks.
|WTF..I even checked CBC's schedule on-line last night..it said 6:30pm (for ontario), the TV guide says 6:30...and we've GOT hockey!!! GGGRRRRR|
|Mark: Corrie was on at 5pm in our area and again at midnight.|
Haili, I checked the CBC web site schedule and I thought I though I saw it was on at 6:30 pm....
Oh well there's always tomorrow...
|Mark: yes, Corrie was on at 3 p.m. Did you miss it? Maybe you can catch it later. A lot of people are confused and so am I. This should be the last game of this series so maybe it changes tomorrow.|
H & H (Haili and Henry)|
With my handy dandy DVD recorder I paused on the receipt scene last week and while the paused picture is blurry I was under the impression that the receipt was from a jewler but correct me if I'm wrong.
So was Corrie on at 3 pm?
With the actors who play Kevin and Ken off, I get the feeling that some story lines are being stretched eg. the Eileen and Paul stuff, the s. gang, Anna/Faye.|
It is refreshing to see the Barlows and especially to see Tyrone happy for a change and going back to work at the garage.
To me, the bookie shop has the worst decor ever - and that's going some!
The article that I read published in Mail Online on May 2nd, said that William Roach had been "suspended" which I took to mean his absence was the choice of management, not necessarily WR's choice. |
I'm wondering why it took so long for the complaint to be filed.
|TerryM, it's possible that WR wanted to be written out temporarily so that he could focus his attentions completely on dealing with fighting these allegations. He may have asked them to give him the time off. Apparently, that's what Michael Le Vell did. Or do we know for a fact that Corrie brass wanted to distance themselves from him?|
Gail - That's right!|
Whatever happened to presumed innocent until proven guilty.
I guess he hasn't given enough service to the show to get that backing from his employers?
Who says real life vignettes have to be about two cackling old ladies enjoying a cup of tea as they share stories about their dusting exploits? The writers might do well to incorporate the actual stories that Michael LeVell and William Roache are living at the moment. |
Geoffrey Hughes also played the loveable rogue, Vernon Scripps, in Heartbeat for a few seasons. As I catalogue Mr. Hughes' filmography, I see that I have watched and enjoyed many a British television production.
|WHAT? TerryM is this due to the rape allegations that have been made against him? They're writing him out of Corrie until it's been dealt with? I hope it's only temporary and that he will prove his innocence and be back soon. Assuming of course that he is innocent of charges.|
|A heads up for today's (Monday's) episode on CBC: This may be our last chance to see William Roache as Ken Barlow. It's his final appearance for the forseeable future.:-( Lets hope not forever. I found his final line very nostalgic and thought provoking.|
I read that Sue Johnston is also on a series called *Jam and Jerusalem* which I believe was or is airing on Vision TV. I have seen *The Royle Family* before years ago. Andy Whyment (Kirk on Corrie) was also on it. It was a funny show!|
On the subject of funny British shows, I wish we could see Mrs. Brown's Boys here. Now that is a hilarious show! You can see lots of clips on youtube. Guaranteed to give you a good laugh! Check out the link above.
|Oops! I meant "boarder". No one could accuse Eddie of being a "border", not with his girth!|
Thanks, Shirley, for the information about Sue Johnston's series, The Royale Family. Since so many old British TV series are being resurrected, I'm hoping this one might be the next up. Sounds like a good laugh. |
When I first began watching Coronation Street, many. many years ago, Eddie Yeates (Geoffrey Hughes) was Hilda and Stan's border. His Onslow character in Keeping Up Appearances was almost an extension of his Eddie role. Enjoyed that show as well.
"Gloria" had a fabulous (imo) role as the mom in "The Royale Family". Also starred our Onslow from "Keeping up Appearances" and the bin man from Corrie - can't remember the character's name! It was a very funny show, and her comedic timing was great. A line I will never forget - "I don't care if he's black, white or Austraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalian"!
Henry: good point about the stolen ring. I thought maybe Gary did the break in but since he had a receipt I guess he didn't. If he had called police Tina would have got it back eventually and it would have cost nothing.|
I can't stand most reality TV. The acting is terrible and phony. I enjoyed the British version of Come Dine With Me but the people on the Canadian one have been away over the top and just to ridiculous. Sharon: I hope you get picked anyway!
I have been watching the series, Waking the Dead, for the first time on our local Knowledge Network, even tho' the episodes are at least a decade old. Sue Johnston (Gloria Price on Coronation Street) has the role of Dr Grace Foley, a psychological profiler. I've enjoyed seeing Ms Johnston in a role other than Gloria, where I find her strident, opinionated and unlikeable. The Dr. Grace role is "Gloria light" as the character is somewhat cut and dried, as well. I wonder what Sue Johnston is like in her everyday life and if these two roles are a reflection of her personality. Have any of you seen her in any other production? |
BTW, I am enjoying Waking the Dead, which seems to have set the bar for all other cold case shows that have followed.
Eileen should have been running after that train shouting "Annaaaa" with a box of Merci chocolates.|
Seriously, who would be silly enough to pay 200 quid to a pawnbroker for stolen merchandice. Surely a call to the police would be the way to go with that.
|Happy Mother's day to all the mothers out there. My husband gave me a super card and treated me to an ice cream cone. I've been able to keep up with Corrie and The Midwife ( love Chummey). I wonder if Eileen is able to catch Paul as the train is leaving. I thought it was dumb of her to destroy pictures so soon.|
|I meant to say Happy Mother's Day to all the Moms here! Hope everyone got to spend time with their children, grandchildren and Moms as I did. I feel very lucky. On top of it all, the Leafs won tonight!!!! WHAT A GAME. I was surprised that game 7 goes tomorrow night though. I thought they always got a day off between games. Hi Leah, I agree completely. Nice guys are more appealing for sure! When they're good looking AND nice it's a bonus isn't it, and of course, when a guy is super nice it just makes him look attractive. I like your idea about Doc Carter and the reality show, maybe you should write and suggest it to them. I wonder if they get many storyline suggestions from fans and if they ever consider any of them? Anyone else have any good ideas for storylines they'd like to see for any of the characters? I miss Audrey these days. They must be giving her a break. She was featured quite a lot with the Lewis storyline. Mark, Kylie is quite beautiful on the outside don't you think? She's become a much nicer person on the inside in recent months too. I think David has been good for her.|
TVOR is spending some well-deserved time with her sweetie. I'm sure she'll be back before long. |
|I'd love to see Doc Carter get more air time on Corrie. Maybe they could have him chosen to do a reality show about the life of a doctor in a typical Manchester neighbourhood. Somehow the Corrie residents have convinced the producers that they're all perfectly normal and they'd all be vying to get appointments with the good doctor. Gradually the truth would come out about all the murderers, jail birds, loonies, arsonists, kidnappers, affairs, a sex change, a couple of gender-preference changes etc, etc, etc. The producers would decide that while this isn't a typical neighbourhood it's more thrilling than one. They'd give Doc Carter his own show called Dr. Eye Candy. Hooray!|
|Sorry Frankie, last week's summary not posted there yet.|
|Hi Frankie, You can find TVOR's weekend reports on Bluenose Corrie Blogger. I'm heading there now.|
|I miss TVOR.|
Gail: I know what you mean: Rob and Ryan are both attractive men, but you wouldn't want to get involved with them!!LOL :)|
Mark: Theresa tried to kill her husband, what are you talking about??!!LOL :)
Some expected me to find Carla attractive but like Leah, personality trumps looks. |
That's why I preferred Theresa and Kylie.
|Gail, you're right to correct me. I didn't exactly mean Jason was stupid. He just makes mistakes like going for a woman who's only 2 years younger than his mother and expecting it to work. I also don't think it's shallow to find Rob and Ryan physically attractive. If I passed either of them on the street I'd probably take a second glance. Of course that would be no use as I'm old enough to be their Gran. I just happen to find nice guys more appealing.|
Maybe it is Anna's undivided attention that makes Faye all stropy. Smother mother comes to mind. Anna is just so needed, for a pre-teen trying to forge her independence that must be very annoying. Boundaries for sure but not constant nagging. I'd say most fathers, even full time ones, are less protective of their kids and they survive dad days just fine.|
On that note, Happy Mother's day to mums out there.
|Julie, yes, the doc is def easy on the eyes. He didn't exactly treat Tina well though. Instead of accepting her for who she was he kept encouraging her to be something she wasn't so she'd be suitable for his friends.|
Gail: Dr. Carter wins it hands down for me too! Is that what you were saying...LOL Childish giggle..|
|I also think that Doc Carter is eye candy, along with Jason and I wouldn't use the word *stupid* to describe Jason at all.|
|Nancy and Leah. I guess I'm just shallow huh? LOL I know that Rob and Ryan are both not what you would call nice guys, although I think that Ryan has potential! I was talking about them purely in the sense of their looks, not their personalities. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. I just shake my head when I hear women go gaga over Brad Pitt because I find nothing remotely attractive about the man's looks.|
Ryan is telling Michelle how much Katy means to him and it all sounded exactly like a repeat of the things he said about Tracy. Can't he hear himself??|
Tim is not giving Faye his undivided attention and although she is not happy about this she is not throwing a strop. See! You can behave when you want to Faye. Pity you didn't extend the same courtesy to Anna.
|Christine: Thank you for the fun pages. Has it been that long since Stape was on the show that I did not recognize him as one of the pin ups. Time certainly flies.|
|Nancy. I agree that Rob and Ryan aren't eye candy. I think part of being attractive is behaving in an attractive way. I find Ryan so annoying that I don't care what he looks like. Getting high and playing in the road, chasing another boy's girlfriend. Rob is such a creep that he considers Tracy his soul mate. 'Nough said. Didn't Steve warn him about her? Hmmm, yes he did, yet Rob made a bee-line for her. Eye candy to me are guys like Ashley, Dr. Carter and Jason (well Jason is stupid, but harmless, and he has a great smile). Not to forget this side of the pond, I'm waiting for Sylvia to go on another cruise and bring home another American played by---drum roll please--Robert Redford.|
|To all the Mothers and Grandmothers out there in North America: I hope you all get spoiled rotten :-)|
|Christine, thank you for another season of the wonderful "Coronation Street Fun Pages". You put so much of yourself into them and I know we don't tell you often enough how much we enjoy them and how grateful we are for your efforts. This years Featured Extra's page has been a special treat. Thank you so much for your dedication Christine.|
The Coronation Street Fun Pages have been updated for the last time until September, I may occasionally update the Spoilers page, but not much else, as I need a break.(Whew!)|
Do check our 'Featured Extra' page, she has been a regular knicker stitcher for a long time, and I was thrilled when she agreed to talk to me. Two of her children have also appeared in the show when they were little too, and I managed to find pictures of them. She is a lovely lady, and it just happens to be her birthday tomorrow, so if everyone reads her page, it will be like giving her a birthday present.
Racking my brains to come up with something different for the Word Search, I decided to do 'Character Associations', like Hilda - ducks, Ena - hairnet etc. I needed 17 for the puzzle and was having a little difficulty towards the end. Can you think of more I could have used?
I have also given you an extra large crossword so better save that for a rainy summer day, as it will take a while.
Debbie has also given you one of her famous circle quizzes, if you guess the first one correctly, it should be easy, because each question follows around in a circle and ends up with the last answer being the same as the first.
We have a winner of the book 'The Cartright Murders' by Ken Barlow. There is no prize for this week's quiz, but will probably give them again in September. However, don't let it stop you entering your answer to the Quiz Nasty, because the first correct answer will be our Quiz Champion in September.
Hope you have enjoyed this season, all I need now is for the weather to warm up a bit so I can enjoy my summer!
Here we go:
Coronation St Fun Pages
|Nice to see everyone's posts. I don't think I have anything to add today, just keeping my place in line reading, he-he ;-)|
|Rob and Ryan as eye candy?? Wow - I think they're both hideously creepy. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder on that one. As an antenna person, I got my pvr (dvr) from Saveandreplay in Mississauga.|
|I got my PVR when the building I live in switched to a deal with Bell Fibe for cable. Bell provided the PVR and there was no charge. When they came to install cable I didn't even know they would give me a PVR. And I pay less for cable and internet now than I did before. It makes a huge difference not having to worry about time changes or having to buy DVD's and worry about them filling up and not recording my program in full.|
Re: friday's episode, it aired Sat. at 2:30 A.M.(!) in the Windsor/Detroit viewing area : \ I happened to stumble across it late last night on the cable guide, it's odd that my DVR didn't schedule it, it has always adjusted in the past, maybe because it was airing on a Sat.? weird.|
well, off to watch now, nite friends
also, since it's almost Sunday...
~*~ ☼ Happy Mother's Day‼ ☼ ~*~
|Thank you, Mark, for the warm welcome back to the guestbook. Much appreciated.|
I think it was Peter who called Rob "a human oilslick" on Friday's show. It is a good fit but I think the same was said about Lewis which was even a better fit. I rather like Rob, he is a cage rattler but not a mean one like Tracy. I think we might like him better if he wasn't paired up with her.|
It is the great one liners that the writers come up with from time to time that keep Corrie entertaining for me even when the storyline are unrealalistic or drag on, and on, and on. Mark Burt is a favorite of mine, also episodes by Jonathan Harvey are bound to be good.
I thought the time was supposed to change this coming week too, back to 6.30pm, we'll have to wait and see.|
I think Mark is on antenna - right Mark? So PVR's hard to come by if you are not on cable or other big company. We have a digital antenna and had to send for a PVR to Arizona....Channel Master. About $399 Cndn. But of course once you have it, you're free and clear, no monthly bills.
Annette: I tried to price a PVR at a store and they told me you could only get them through the cable co. but that was a couple of years ago. I think they're around $20 per month, plus tax to rent.|
As for the old girls chatting over the washing machine, it was a slice of life and quite funny at times. It was more realistic than American soaps which is why people liked it. Times have changed since then and we have some updated story lines eg. the surrogate thing and everyone suddenly wanting babies and foster kids but I feel that they drag some of them on far too long. I have never known a man so desperate for a baby as Gary, who couldn't care less until he found out Izzy was pregnant, lost it and didn't want to try again. Maybe men like that exist but I've just never met one and I've never met a woman of Anna's age who was so desperate for a child that she'd break up with her partner for one.
I don't watch enough TV to justify cable bills and another machine.
Good point Vixen, at some point the stories have to be relatable.
If it's too far fetched I don't relate to them.
As well as ridiculous parts like Carla buying the betting shop without signing a contract.
I liked the Corrie court case stories.
|Welcome back Vixen.|
|Gail: Cracked old teapots and chipped cups!!!LOL Too funny!!LOL :)|
|Thanks Hey Jude! What it all boils down to is that we all keep watching Corrie so they must be doing something right! You have me LOL at the image of the two old dears cackling over the washing machine, hanging out the clothes, sitting at the kitchen table discussing the price of bacon over their cracked old teapot and chipped cups. It was endearing enough in those times but it won't please the new audiences. They want lots of sex, violence, adultery and murder while they eat their dinner in front of the telly! LOL Just kidding before anyone gets offended! If you read through the Corrie anniversary books, you'll find that the same old themes and storylines were repeated back then too. There was murder, there was adultery, there was violence and even a little sex! There actually are very few basic plots that can be written and after 50 years, they are bound to repeat some of them! Now and then they come up with something original or socially relevant to the times. Me, I love Corrie no matter WHAT they do. I guess I just don't have as high expectations of it as some and that's fine too. It entertains me and I think it always will.|
|Gail: Well said in your last post (and the others too). They def are targetting a younger audience now and have to keep things interesting or there's no way. I found the Corrie (what I remember of it as a kid in the mid-60's) was unbelievably boring!LOL Two old gals cackling over the washing machine - ho hum! I think what we are getting today is so superior, no comparison IMHO!LOL Re the crawlers - THANK GOD for PVRs!!LOL :)|
|That's the way most of the shows are now vixen. It's a TV show and if the storylines were just mundane day in and day out we would very quickly lose interest. Ena Sharples stealing a tin of salmon just won't cut it anymore with the younger viewers. And like it or not, they have to appeal to the new generations of viewers who will simply not get hooked on mundane storylines. I can only conclude that you truly love Corrie and watch it for what it once was, and not for what it is. I have watched it since the late 70's and must admit that I find it much more fun now than it was back then. They had their share of adultery, rape and murder back then too! So things haven't changed all that much. I suppose it's just a matter of taste and of opinion. I think you should give the new producer a chance and see if maybe he will bring back the kind of storylines that you miss and the humour that you feel is lacking.|
Hope springs eternal, Gail. I keep hoping that the writers will get back to the storylines that made Coronation Street popular in the first place. It used to be a slice of life that most people could relate to. Now there has to be a spectacular death yearly, a Christmas birth in the Rovers annually, or a catastrophic street event on a regular basis. The stories that seem to delight the viewers, as verified by this blog, are the human nature stories with a twist of humour that we don't see often enough anymore.|
To ask me to stop watching the show because I don't think the storylines are as good as they might be, does not make the weak, repetitive narratives any less so.
|Just wanted to add here that I didn't mean to sound like I was lecturing in my last post. I apologize if I sounded *holier than thou*. Vixen13, maybe some viewers feel that way about the storylines but I'm not one of them. If I felt that way about Corrie, I would just stop watching it. I don't understand why anyone would bother to watch a show that they felt was wearing them down.|
I wrote down one of the crawlers CBC showed a while back..it said 'Wed.May 1st-10th at 3pm...then May 13th changes to 6:30pm -July. Don't know if that's changed since then.|
I missed yesterday's because I didn't leave the TV on channel 5 (CBC) and was gone shopping. Soo last night I changed the VCR to tape late night eppie. I had it taping from midnight till 1:30am figuring I would get it, still hockey on, then news. Don't know when it finally did come on.
I'm with you Haili..another (unnecesary) monthly bill. I have no idea what they cost outright..that would be more of interest to me than a monthly (forever) bill.
I'd like to see what Rob could do with a meaty story-line rather than the mouthy-shallow-jock-type fella he's been stuck with.
I'm also enjoying Mary lately, she is a good actress.
Dev sorta tries to be rid of her when she pops in unexpectedly, yet before you know it Dev is grinning happily..she's on her way to making herself very needed to Dev and the kids.
Off to our Grandaughter's 3rd Birthday party. She's just so darned *cute*
|I find it ironic that the writers can put the following words into Eileen's mouth -- "There's only so many times you can have the same argument without it wearing you down." -- and not see that their repetitive, overused, weary story lines have the same effect on their viewers.|
|CBC did run a crawler repeatedly at the start of the Playoff season and it stated the time changes which would be in effect until July 1st. I saw it several times. So we can't really blame them if we forget. They did tell us. I guess maybe some of us need reminding. The great thing about the PVR is that you just set it up to catch the first run and that's that! You never need to worry about what time it's on! OK, I know I'm harping about PVRs again and I apologize. I like both Rob and Ryan and hope they keep them around. Ryan looks like he's been working out big time, and I like his hair. They are both very handsome young men and provide a nice serving of eye candy!|
|Hey Jude: Yes they should let us know. Remember last year when they did the same thing and we all started contacting CBC and complaining...All of a sudden we had crawlers that were a third of the screen with the loudest beeps...Just sayin' folks! HINT HINT!.I'm e-mailing them right now...|
Julie: I too think Mary would make a good murderer. She reminds me of the actress in Misery, Kathy Bates. I shudder to think that the writers might pair her up with Roy after Hailey leaves, though they could play a lot of chess. Roy deserves better. Mary means well but is just too, too much.|
As for Rob and Ryan, I haven't taken to them yet either. Maybe with the right story lines they'll get better or at least more interesting.
My VCR hasn't been recording lately either and I put off getting a PVR as I hate bills and that would be one more a month. Someday I will break down and join the modern world.
|Julie: I agree that for some, the CBC should be scrolling on the bottom of our screens reminding people that because of the NHL playoffs, Corrie is being shown in most places in Canada, at 3:00 p.m. until July 1st. It's still being shown at midnight or fairly close to midnight here on the west coast as well.|
|Ahem...that's 'could, not , 'good'.. Mookie: I'm referring to the character of Rob...not you in anyway darling!|
Mark: I feel your pain, I did not get to see it either and there was no alerts on the previous day's eppy, that I noticed anyway.|
On the Mary topic: She'd make a wonderful murderer don't you think? Like some calculated/twisted Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes.Her murders would all have themes, games and intricate mind bending clues to unravel.Ha..I'd love it...not that I would want to see Mary leave though.
On the Rob topic: I'm not a fan of his either. There's just something about him that is too smarmy and I've not warmed up to him at all. I do give new characters a while as it does take some time, but his I just do not like. It's possible that they have not given him a decent storyline in the past, only cheating and lying and then going off with Tracy. There's no depth to his character at all.Shame really as they good have done a lot with him...looks like now he's going to be just as annoying in the bookies.
|Thanks Gail-ultimately, I do agree with you but it just seems that the storylines have gone by way of the Dodo bird. It's not real life but that's what made/makes it such a wonderful show - you can just imagine talking and being with these people because they're so down to earth. I'm still puzzled about the Karl/Stella admission. Would one not ask "what do you mean by that?" My intelligence has been insulted over and over again but I still keep watching! Second cup of coffee was really, really good! Have a good day, all.|
|Mark: I also recommend getting a PVR, they are so easy to use and also have the Rogers Movie on Demand Channel, which has thousands of movies to choose from, including the latest releases. We still have our combo VCR/DVD hooked up to the same TV so that we can still watch our old favourites or any new DVD's that we buy.|
Gail: Exactly! And if it were "a real pub" being built, it would likely take 3 to 4 months and it hasn't been nearly that long, only a few weeks!LOL|
Mark: I get your reluctance to invest in s PVR, but no kidding, they aren't very expensive any more and it would pay for itself in no time, and you'd have much less frustration with missing shows that you like to watch! Maybe you like the idea of holding on to tapes or DVD's that you've recorded and whatever works for you, but I just find the convenience of the PVR so much easier to deal with. You barely even have to think when you have one of those things and you've got it set to record! To each his own I guess, I can't imagine life without my PVR now!!LOL :)
|Sara, I'm thinking that in real life it might take even longer to be rebuilt! It doesn't feel that long to me but that's JMO.|
|Why oh why did they decide to have the Rovers burn to the ground? This storyline is getting so tedious and boring. Will Betty's picture be recovered and hung on the wall of the new "could it take any longer to be built" Rovers? I like Nick's but it just doesn't have that "feel" of a cozy neighbourhood local. Sorry all, I've only had one cup of coffee - onto my second!|
Mark, don't you have a VCR you can set? I know that wouldn't have helped you if you forgot to check the time Corrie was on and set it up. Too bad you don't have a PVR because you just set it to *first run only* and you don't have to worry what time it's on, it automatically records the first run of the show. So the Leafs live to flght another day! Great game tonight! Thanks TerryM! I have a vague memory of Mary coming into the Kabin one day talking about how her mother had died and she was off to the funeral. Norris and Rita were all concerned and full of sympathy, but Mary was quite matter of fact about it in that way she has! This was not long after she was first on the show if I'm not mistaken but I could be having a false memory LOL|
Someone asked about Stella and Karl. The last scene we saw them in, Stella mentioned that they needed to get away for a couple of days so they must have headed over to Blackpool or somewhere for a break!
|Pearl - I agree. That storyline when she 'kidnapped' Norris, may have been meant to be the end of Mary, as it would have been for most characters, but the producers must have thought she was very popular with the fans to keep her on after that. (I wouldn't be surprised if they had to do a bit of re-writing at the end)|
|Mark: 3 here on the west coast.|
|Hi Julie, I share your and Jackie's feeling regarding Mary. Parhaps she was originally hired to be a mysterious villan, but her ovious talent and likeablity made her an asset to keep on the show. In the 6 years Mary has be on Corrie, she has interacted with many other characters and had more jobs and projects than most characters in that length of time. As apposed to all the cranky, whining, miserable, man dependent females we see most days, she is a breath of fresh air. I sincerly hope tPTB do not revert to mad Mary mode.|
Was tonight's show on at 3 pm or 6:30 pm?
I missed it.
Gayle about Rob: I liked him at first when he saved the factory but not since I've seen how he treats Peter as if he's jealous of Carla.|
I thought the same thing, why are they always going to the Bistro.
They could have eaten in peace at Roys or at the Donair shop.
They all hate Leanne but can't be without her.
Jeannie, yes Tina has a short memory.
Gail - Regarding Mary. From what I remember, the situation with her mother comes from the storyline when Norris and she went away on the trip and she wanted to keep him confined. As the story played out, it seems she told him her mother was dead, so he'd feel sorry for her and go on the trip. Then later on he caught her talking to her 'dead' mother, who was not dead at all. So it was a plot device.|
It's always possible too, that her mother was originally supposed t be dead, but they found it to be a good plot device to have her mother alive again and make Mary more scary.
But to answer the question in one sentence. I believe Mary's mother, Maureen is supposed to be still alive.
It is confusing when we don't know where people go and why but I assume Karl and Stella went away for a few days. Money is no object on Corrie and skint folks are always taking off on holiday - much as they can afford to eat breakfast at the cafe, drink at the Bistro, etc.|
I assumed that Chesney asked Fizz about going back to work as it involved child care or her baby sitting at times. I was just happy to see things get back to "normal" - whatever that is on Corrie. As for work, people just take off when they feel like it. In real life, they'd be fired, but this is soap land.
|**Spoiler for those who haven't yet seen today's eppie. I have a couple of questions/comments that I am sure some of the wiser folks on this guestbook can answer. Where were Karl and Stella? On holiday? How on earth can they afford that? I thought Fizz was back at the factory yet she was strolling down the street with Tyronne when I assumed was the middle of a work day but perhaps not because Tracey was hanging off Rob (I thought she worked at the factory). Why on earth does Tyronne have to ask Fizz's permission to return to his job?? I would think they would certainly need the money to maintain two separate residences. May I take this opportunity to wish Happy Mother's Day to all the lovely Mom's who post on here!|
It was a breath of fresh air to see an episode with no Anna/Faye and the s. gang. What a treat. The only weird thing was the decor in the bookie shop; it was like a flashback to the 70s - and not in a good way! Was the decorator on drugs?
I'm not complaining though since I enjoyed the mix of characters and Ty. going back to the garage to work with Tommy. It was also nice to see Dierdre with Eileen for a change though I miss her chats with Liz. I'm sure we've seen that scene with someone rushing after a train or bus a few times before. Marcus chasing the bus after Sean comes to mind.
|Monique: Great write-up about Mary! Totally agree!|
Why is Peter so adamant about wanting to pay Leanne himself and so bent out of shape with Carla because she removed the debt. Is he getting tired of Carla and is his roving eye turning towards Leanne again?|
I can see why Dev is feeling antsy around Mary but she is brilliant with the kids. She is an interesting character to say the least. And did I miss anything - are the Platts all dead? They seem to have been gone for ages.
All these examples about Mary show how much she's quirky and unstable in many ways. But I find that very interesting. I don't think she'll explode in a major murderous way because she often seems close to that but never does. However that does not make her harmless. The way she takes over other people's lives can drain their energy if they don't put a stop to it. It's not a big danger like being murdered but it's an energy drain and controlling attitude that can suck the life out of people. Often it starts with real concern like with Dev's kids, wanting to create fun theme nights and wanting to help Roy and Hayly with their wedding and then she becomes overbearing and her dark side appears. I personally find the exploration of this character quite fascinating.|
Let's also not forget her penchant for attending trials and munching on snacks.
|There was also the time when the police were investigating something on the stree and one of the policemen looked at Mary and said "Don't I know you? Something about a chainsaw?" Mary got all flustered and said "That was a long time ago"|
Don't forget the time Mary sabotaged Roy and Hayley's wedding train. She was sitting there on the platform holding the pin that holds the cars together, as the train pulled out. Eventually the cars separated, leaving Hayley and the bridesmaids behind. Lucky they found a handcart to get them there.|
But she is very funny and interesting, so let's keep her. Don't think she is a danger to children.
Thanks Jeannie for your vote on how Tina may leave the show. She came into the show with a bang, giving Gail grief at the medical clinic for not being served pronptly enough. In the next year Tina may have many adventures & misadventures and I bet she will end her time on Corrie in an explosive was exit.|
Got a laugh out of "lip action" Plaid Cat. Just a few days back someone noted how Chesney succumed to Katie's feminine charms in her desire to have a baby and be 'a real family'. Seems like a certain 48 year old fellow is susseptable too.
Very true Hey Jude, are we just taking Mary's word for it? I somehow recall the cops later confirming to Norris that they had checked it out and mother was alive and well when he went to the police station later in Weatherfield to follow up, but then I might be remembering that wrong.|
It's possible that Mary will just hit the wall if she is rejected by Dev. She's been rejected by so many people, it's really the story of her life isn't it! Maybe Dev's rejection will make her go completely off her trolly and embark on a reign of revenge-induced terror on the street. Oh god, I don't want to give them any ideas! LOL
I wasn't watching when Mary kidnapped Norris so I can't comment on that. The other storylines Julie just mentioned do give pause though. Is Mary a harmless eccentric with a big dollup of insecurity or is she potentially a very dangerous lady? Time and the new producer will tell. She did seem to be making Dev a little twitchy last night. What was that line about feeling like he was being treated like the third twin?|
One thing I'm liking about the new producer is that he's brought back that lives overlapping, knowing what your neighbour's up to feel that's been lost in the last years when it seemed like everyone was living in their own little bubble and didn't know (or care) what the people living ten feet away were doing or suffering.In some cases it seemed they couldn't even remember their own storyline more than two weeks past. Maybe now, Tina will remember what the Windass family did to her dad, Mark? We live in hope.
|I agree haili, I just remember something about the police coming to the cottage and Norris telling them that Mary killed her mother. Then Mary saying that it wasn't true, that her mother was alive and the police confirmed it. Now how they would have been so sure about that, I've no idea! Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong! Can anyone help? TerryM perhaps?|
|Lynn from Halifax: I agree with you about Rob. He is the kind of guy who I learned to avoid about grade 9. Smiling and apparently friendly yet if you turn your back on him you had better hope there were no knives nearby. Worse he can attempt to fool/scam you while you converse. I know of no words to describe him any better but like Narcissistic personalities the best thing to do is avoid them as soon as possible.|
Gail: I do recall Mary saying she was only joking and that her mother is alive, but how do we know that's actually true??!!LOL|
Agree with the others, she is a strange bird no doubt, and Haili, good point about what might happen if Dev decides to fire her. Will still look forward to it anxiously though!!LOL :)
|Gail: Mary's mother is a bit of a mystery. I don't think we know for sure if she's alive or dead - unless I've forgotten.|
|Julie and Hey Jude, I agree, and Mary is definitely a strange one. I hope they opt to just keep her this way, quirky with a dark side but relatively harmless as opposed to turning her into a killer. Haili, apparently Mary's mother is alive and well. I think at one point Mary said her mother had died. Didn't she imply to Norris that she had killed her when she was holding him in the cottage, but then she admitted that she was only joking and that her mother was alive and well. I'm a bit vague about that, maybe someone here knows.|
|I find Mary a bit unhinged, much like a character Kathy Bates played in a movie where she held James Caan captive. I shudder to think what will happen to those kids, especially if Dev. decides to fire her. He already finds her annoying but hasn't much choice but to keep her on until he finds a replacement - and how will she react to a replacement? It never felt logical that she and Norris remained friends after she kept him in that cottage. She is too weird for me to like her and she may be the next person to flip out and kill someone. I still wonder what happened to her mother.|
|Hey Jude: I love Mary as I think she's very funny, especially with Norris. She's far from normal though....I think she's an obsessive/romantic. She kidnapped Norris because she had romantic notions of Wuthering Heights. She tackled her 'theme nights' with the same amount of enthusiasm and romantic passion and she seems to be doing the same with Dev and the kids. She's in her own little romantic fairyland that can and does go off kilter... Oh I forgot the chess playing with Roy...lol...Oh and Roy and Hayley's wedding planning...She kills me..I know a lot on here dislike her character but she amuses me no end.|
|Gail: Completely agree with you there! I'm loving Mary and the kids these days! Who knew she had such a great way with kids?!LOL Remembering how scary she was when she "kidnapped" Norris in the 5th wheel at that cottage in the middle nowhere, who'd have thought she's becoming "normal"!!LOL Seems like she sure missed her calling!LOL :)|
|Lynn, you've answered all your own questions! Yep, it's a show, and they need to create conflict and drama. If they let things play out in a completely realistic fashion it would just get borrriinnng because most of the time, everything would work out and everyone would do the right thing and be happy. How exciting would it be if Carla and Peter just went to the Flying Horse to avoid N and L and sat there with a bunch of strangers and talked about how their day went? LOL No, it serves the plot, like it or not, to get in Nick and Leanne's faces and get each other going! I agree though, that we do need some happy moments and humour and Corrie is providing some of that with Mary and the twins these days.|
|Gayle, I agree with you completely, Rob is a smarmy, self important jerk and I would like to know how the ex-con got so much business savvy all of a sudden. I would like to see the end of him and Tracy. Again, the writers defy logic and good sense with the Carla buying from Leeann plot without a lawyer looking over the original agreement and all that stuff involved in the sale of a business with a partner. The partner often has first right of refusal but that takes away from the drama. Carla and Peter are as boring as Nick and Leeann -- Peter rages, she sulks, they make up, and as Gayle said why would you go to a place where your ex-wife works esp. with the current state of things? Peter is right to be angry IMO, Carla could have had a discussion with him first but where would all the conflict come from if someone did something sensible? Gary is creepier by the day, that PTSD sure went away and I would bet it will re-emerge just as quickly-- just write him out, I am sick of his overwrought face and voice; him, Owen, Karl, all cut from the same cloth, and with partners with little or no sense.|
|Is it just me or does anyone else find Rob annoying? All he ever seems to do is make sarcastic remarks to Peter? I don't he is an astute business man as much as he pretends to be. But, he does have a point we rarely see any customers in the betting shop Peter doesn't appear to have any employees and he shuts the shop whenever he has something to do. That is hardly any way to run any kind of business. As Mark has said if you don't have regular hours customers will go elsewhere. Speaking of going elsewhere why does everyone on the street go the to Bistro? Why on earth would Carla and Peter go there when Peter and Leeanne are constantly at each other's throats! Leeanne is so rude to them. There must be other restaurants and pubs close by. Faye looks like she has aged another couple of years since she has moved in with Tim she didn't look 11 before and she certainly doesn't now! I really wonder where this storyline is headed I really don't think Tim wants to be a full time father. He appears to let Faye do whatever she wants.|
|They are explaining Kevin's absence by saying that he went to Germany to be with his father B ill who had a heart attack. Kevin won't be back until after his trial and I Tyrone will take over and run it with Tommy as his helper.|
|Isn't Kevin supposed to be away looking after Bill? I vaguely remember something about Tommy going back to work at the garage while Kevin was still around. Maybe Tyrone will end up running it.|
|I thought maybe I missed something when I saw Tommy in the garage today, but judging from what others have posted, I didn't. Yes with Kevin off ( have we heard an explanation as to where he is? )and Tyrone being Mr Mom, poor garage is being run by ghost staff. I am waiting for the fireworks when Peter finds out that Rob is his partner. I do not thing that Carla is capable of enough lip action to calm Peter down. !!|
|I missed the 3 p.m. show again so will watch the other soon.|
Pearl, regarding your question on how Tina will leave:|
(a) Tina leave alone
(b) leave with s baby
(c) leave with baby & father
(d) leave with someone who has yet to be introduced
Ofcourse this is asuming she leaves alive; maybe so, maybe not.
I'm thinking she will leave alone. She can't take Izzy's baby can she? Or her baby AND her boyfriend? Oh surely not, especially with what we're all thinking is on the horizon for Izzy now.
They are making Faye look older now.|
That short skirt looked good on Anna.
Good point Pearl. I didn't think of it that way.|
Rob brought in customers to the factory when Carla was on one of her stress escapes.
She should have convinced Peter first.
|Gail: I just saw your message! Good one!! Inside joke folks with family!|
I can't recall Tommy being hired back at the garage either Mark, but it is a good thing he is there with Kevin AWOL and Tyrone looking after Ruby and swaping cooking with Fiz. Someone has to keep the place open or it will be in worse shape than the bookies. I wonder if part of Carla plan to have Rob work at the bookies is to get him out of her office in the factory although he has be an asset to Underworld.|
All though Eileen & Julie's trip wasn't mentioned today, I have a sneaking feeling that Eileen will bail at the last minute - maybe Brian ends up going with Julie instead. She could be gone of up to a year if Kate Cavanagh takes her maternity leave now.
Tommy may not be the only one suspicious of Gary's interest in Tina. Anna found the pon ticket in his pocket which showed it cost him 200 not 20 pounds. She did warn him about lieing to Izzy. Lets hope she keeps on his case.
No matter how much you renovate a shop, if it doesn't have regular opening hours, the customers will get in the habit of going elsewhere.|
And it helps to be nice to customers.
Well said Jeannie! You explained it better than I could.|
It helps to watch the scene before commenting Ah-humm!
Yes Haili it's the whole "don't believe Tommy" scenario being played out again like when Kirsty was beating Tyronne.
I don't recall anyone calling Tommy back to work.
|Oh now come on Hey Jude! Melanie says you can't have gravy!!!!! LOL|
|Selby: I agree with you and as Gail said yesterday, the acting is almost always very good and I too have been watching for a very long time.|
|Laurel from BC ; I have to admit I look forward to every episode and hope for a half hour's entertainment. I have to admit that I agree with your list of boring characters and it is both a long list and a list of the main characters and plots at the moment. Anyway I expect things will swing towards more entrainment sometime in the near future.|
Sharon: I'd give Sally's fish fingers a miss though they might do as an appetizer; then there's her beans on toast. Dierdre's stuffed marrow would be more like a main course as the one I had was quite hearty. Fred's menu sounds good, as does Ken's Ocean Pie and of course Betty's hot pot. Maybe you could have a buffet! Trifle or Eccles cakes sound appropriate for dessert.|
Why does no-one believe Tommy when he says Gary is after Tina? Tina dismisses all his feelings too but now Rita doubts him too.
I enjoyed a good laugh along with Nick and Leanne when Peter was so annoyed about Carla buying a share. It's enough to knock Peter right off the wagon, having to work with Rob.
|I'm loving the scenes with Mary looking after Dev's kids. She was a creepy one to begin with, but I think her character is becoming fun. The scenes with Ches and Katy, Ryan and Katy, Leanne and Peter, Faye and Tim, Gary and Tina are plain boring. I guess we can't be sitting on the edge of our seats all the time though.|
|All of your replies re CDWMC are keeping me in stitches! (Of course Fred Elliott always offered his lady friends a nice fillet steak!) I have already got my menu planned and practised but now I am wondering if it might be a fun idea to do an all Corrie night!?? I know there are a lot of Corrie fans in Hamilton! I will deffo keep you all posted on the progress...thank you for all your replies and for making me laugh! xo|
|Sharon from Hamilton very best of luck on Come Dine With Me! My husband and I love that show! Please keep us posted when your show airs. Look forward to seeing a fellow Corrie fan on tv!|
|Henry: Great suggestion! I also would want gravy!LOL :)|
|For those of you who have never seen the show Come Dine With Me, your menu has to be completely homemade from scratch, otherwise you lose points. You also have to be willing to at least taste everything that the other contestants serve. They also look for original dishes. Quite a challenge.|
Sharon: How exciting that is, I love that show too. Apart from all of the good suggestions here, don't forget Haddock pie, Fisherman's Pie as Ken called it but he only used Haddock! It's been cooked twice in the last couple of weeks or so.|
If you really want to go to town, go for one of Mary's themed nights, costumes and tacky decorations to boot!
|Good suggestion Henry! You're making me hungry, only I would prefer creamy horseradish to spicy mustard with my beef! I'm having boring old oatmeal with strawberries and blueberries on top of it for lunch. LOL|
I've never seen the show but it sounds like good fun.
As for your question how about Double-Baked Fries with Garlic Cheese Sauce and Bacon for an appetizer. I must confess I’m not big on making (but fine on eating) appetizers so I went online to see if there was something that involved bacon and there was and it has chips and cheese too! More Corrie favourites! So there’s my suggestion for an appetizer.
For a main course, you must have Betty’s hotpot and Deirdre’s stuffed marrow for an orange veg. I’d go for a green salad too, if you think you can get away with it. For dessert, I’m dying to try one of those Freshco chocolate cakes though possibly this is a spoiler. I read ahead and tend to get my storylines tangled.
|Ask yourself "What would Fred Elliott serve?". A nice joint of beef (two slices minimum) roast potatoes (two's minimum) carrots and yorkshire pudding. With a nice dollop of spicey mustard.|
|Or maybe trifle for dessert, they often serve that on Corrie! Who doesn't LOVE trifle! For mains, there's always the old stand bys cheese on toast, beans on toast, fish fingers, spaghetti hoops and fish and chips! Good luck Sharon, and let us know if and when we can see you on CDWM!|
|Jenny, thanks for letting us know how things are going. Please stay in touch.|
|Sharon, how about Eccles cake for dessert? Good luck to you.|
OFF TOPIC: Hi Sharon, I love that show, more for the menus and recipes than the humour. I would vote for Betty's Hot Pot for your main course, maybe Dierdres Stuffed Marrow for the Appetizer. Will have to give more thought for a dessert.|
Good Luck with getting on the show.
|Maybe dessert could be an assortment of cream cakes such as would be found at Roys Rolls!|
|That's fantastic Sharon! Not sure about appetizer and dessert but I would suggest Deirdre's Stuffed Marrow for the main! LOL Keep us posted!|
OFF TOPIC - I have been lucky enough to have had an on-camera interview to be considered for Come Dine With Me Canada! If I get chosen I will be sure to proudly display my Corrie calendar and my Corrie Tea cozy! Terry M's book too!|
Just for fun...let's pretend my dinner party theme would be Coronation Street - what would you choose as my appetizer, main and dessert?
|Hi Jenny, thank you for letting us know how you are doing, sorry you are going through a rough time. Sending positive thoughts and ((hugs)) your way, take care ,V|
|Thanks Jeannie for clarifying about the infamous sandwich. I'll be watching the episode soon. I think it's easy to see that when the Windass baby arrives, Tina is going to refuse to hand it over to Izzy and Gary. Apparently the law (at least here in Canada) recognizes the birth mother as the mother of the baby, even when the surrogate carries a baby that is not her biological child. The bio parents have to legally adopt their own child. Not sure if the law is the same in the UK and on Corrie LOL but if it is then Tina will be considered the baby's mother in the eyes of the law and she'll use that to keep the child. Unless of course, she waived the right beforehand! Wait for the drama!|
the action just jars, it is not believable, it does not flow well, the acting looks awkward.|
I meant sometimes a small little scene is the above, not the episode or the show. The sandwich did move the plot along but not the two going right into the next room for a conversation.
After recently viewing Corrie from 20, 30 years ago I conclude the acting is many times better today than in the past.
Yes, Gary is rude and always has been but Tina is just as bad when she goes along with it. They practically push Tommy aside.|
I get that the sandwich was there to move the plot along - if you call it a plot when Anna just has hysterics yet again - and you know she will when she thinks the poor child is starving and sleep deprived. She needs to take a chill pill. It didn't seem realistic to take a sandwich to the front door with a plate right in front of it. Things aren't that interesting lately when the most exciting thing to happen is Faye asking for the sandwich.
Gary is becoming very creepy. I thought it was incredibly rude to interrupt Tommy and Tina's lunch. Does Gary ever work? Are we to assume that Tommy is back at the garage? I was very surprised at Tina's reaction to Gary butting in on their lunch she started attacking Tommy as well. I really don't like the direction this story is taking.|
I'm still enjoying how Mary is helping Dev with the children. I hope it lasts.
|Well as far as Gary goes, let's not forget he is a candidate for future events of mental illness. His mental breakdown when he came back from Afghanistan was truly scary and yet no one brings this up anymore. No one gets over trama that quickly, yet he does not go for any councilling.? I think he is fixated on this baby and the Womb For Rent (Tina), and Tina is lapping up all this attention. Tommy was right to call Gary out when he said it was Izzy's baby - not Tina's, yet Tina did not twig on what Tommy was trying to point out.|
Re the sandwich/plot question: I posted: Faye took Sean's breakfast (sandwich) because she was hungry and also so that he would have to eat at Roy's where he had an important conversation with someone which moved the plot along. I can't remember who that was now, but he did and it did.
Pearl kindly filled in the blanks:
You are right Jeannie, Sean had to answer the doorbell with his sandwich in his hand so Faye could ask for a bit, so he would give it to her cus she never had time for brecky so he then went to Roy's to eat so Anna (who he talked to) could find out Faye didn't get breakfast and have her daily moan to Owen. Anna's upset so all is normal in Corrie world.
So, Sean's sandwich wasn't so much crucial to the plot as his losing the sandwich moved the plot along.
A crucial detail! :)
Hi Annette, You are probably right about why Gary will be feeling guilty in the future after swearing undieing love to Izzy. He is very determind when going after what he wants. First it was a baby with Izzy. After she miscarried and refussed to try for another pregnancy, he pushed for a sorragate child via Katy. When that didn't work, Izzy was willing to stop trying for their own child but Gary was relentless. Now he seems to want the s child and Tina. Don't know if it is love he feels or posession. He does come on way too strong at times - scary indeed!!|
SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHO IS LEAVING; This has be discussed on here before but I checked wikipedia to make sure when Tina is leaving the show. Not until 2014 so lots can change before then. For those who like to speculate on what will happen then, as things stand today will (a) Tina leave along
(b) leave with s baby
(c) leave with baby & father (d) leave with someone who has yet to be introduced
Ofcourse this is asuming she leaves alive; maybe so, maybe not.
Thanks Jenny for letting us know how thing are with you. Hang in there girl, be thinking of you.
|So disappointed Chesney isn't giving Katy a proper chance to redeem herself. It would help if she wouldn't go near Ryan or let him text her anymore. Anyway, I guess this is what they want for the storyline. I hate what Gary is doing to Izzy and starting something with Tina when Tommy would be getting closer otherwise. I love Anna being so helpful with Dev's kids ( so far, we'll see where this leads?).|
|Hmmm, I never feel that way about Corrie Lisa, I always find it entertaining and the acting almost always very good. I've just been watching it so long that it never disappoints but that's just me I guess!|
Lisa how come none of the french fries fell out of the sandwich as Sean was walking and how can he hold his hand so perpendicular to the floor?|
Does he do this all the time?
I was cringing expecting it to come apart.
He must have pressed the bread hard to keep the fries in but the bread didn't squish.
It must have been special bread that they use for TV shows.
It definitely was the most exciting scene we've seen in ages.
No no, eating a sandwich is not crucial to the plot but sometimes the action just jars, it is not believable, it does not flow well, the acting looks awkward.|
A chip sandwich is a chip butty.
Yes a few of us were chatting about Sean's sandwich so it must be one of the more interesting events on yesterday's episode.|
Sean was worried about his weight yet he's slim LOL.
|Jenny, wishing you the best of luck with your treatment as it goes forward.|
|Sandwich? Is Sean's holding a sandwich critical to the plot? I haven't seen the episode yet but can't imagine that it could be. Just some more *details* huh. ;) Mark, they do eat *chip* sandwiches in the UK. They just put french fries or *chips* as they call them, between usually white bread, probably put brown sauce or ketchup on them and then scarf em down. They even eat potato chip sandwiches. I remember Tyrone once eating one of those! He acted like it was a special treat. Not very healthy food choices at all, shame on them!|
|Was Sean eating a sandwich made of French fries?|
Hello my friends, Thank you to those who asked about my surgery. I found out yesterday that the "margins" are not clear so we are discussing options.....feel like c r a p but enough about that..|
feel rather lonesome watching the hockey games without Dear Graham to write back and forth to.....
only storyline I'm enjoying is the mary/dev interaction....everyone being kind and quiet and appreciative....the rest of it is more round and round...have enjoyed not seeing Karl's mug on the screen this week. anyway hope you having good weather wherever you may be..cheers, J
|And further, when Faye and Tim were at the door asking for jason, why did they walk into the living room just to ask about him. Two people? Could have just stood at the door and asked for him.|
I was wondering if the sandwich was going to fall and why not leave it on the table or at least hold the plate instead of the sandwich.|
It made no sense at all.
I don't understand Tina's short memory of all the trouble Gary caused Joe her Dad and between her and David.
Where is Marie? LOL.
Leanne was fun to watch for a change.
And it's nice to see that Mary is appreciated for a change.
|Annette: I also agree with you on your 1st post!LOL :) Haili: And I agree with you on your post!LOL :) Great posts ladies!|
|Annette. It's funny; I felt the opposite and enjoyed Leanne getting one over on Carla. She had it coming for so many different reasons; the affair with Peter, almost killing Stella, the affair with Liam when Maria was pregnant, etc. I do wish Leanne would smile more and be happy for awhile - along with Chesney, Jason, Tommy, Tyrone. We haven't seen Emily for ages and I wonder if the actress is OK - or did I just not notice her lately?|
|oops forgot..I was hoping Carla would thump Leanne one right in her smug little knotted face in todays eppie.|
CANNOT stand Gary! As another poster said..he's 'CREEPY'.|
Hmm..TerryM said Gary has guilt feelings. I say it's likely he is feeling guilty because he is falling in love with Tina and feels bad about Izzy. TINA RUN AWAY!!!
Jeez we'll be hearing the screaming from Anna when she finds out (if) Tim goes out for a few beers with Jason and leaves Faye home alone. Which I think is crazy as I was babysitting OTHER kids when I was 12 years old...to make money,so I could buy the junk I wanted.
|I really enjoyed the show today and I'm loving Mary right now! Also, Carla and Peter...I'd forgotten how good they are together. It just seemed today that everything started moving along at a good pace. Hope it continues.|
|Lynda - ***vague spoiler*** No, that didn't happen. But Gary has a different kind of guilt, which will be revealed very soon.|
|Spoiler alert.........have I missed something or is there a chance that Gary stole the ring from Tina's that he claims he found in a pawn shop? End of spoiler.|
|Katy did realize the mistake she made and wanted to get back together with Ches. She told Ryan she didn't want to be with him. But every time Ches saw her near Ryan he completely lost it instead of believing her and wouldn't give her the benefit of the doubt. He has actually pushed her back into Ryan's arms with his attitude. But he's young and he's insecure and can't really be blamed for feeling the way he does given the way he was brought up. I hope everyone caught Corrie on their PVR's at 3 PM today! According to the online guide, today's episode of Corrie airs at 1:30 AM tomorrow morning for those who missed it and want to set their vcr's or pvrs.|
Yes, thanks for reminding us about Ches's past. After his mother, how could he not have trust issues with women!?! I do feel badly for him and think he is right, Katy really does want the excitement that Ryan offers. She will go right back to him the first fight after Ches takes her back.
But let's get out of the loop anyway.
Tina never considers Tommy when Gary constantly interrupts them, even on a date. Gary is rude, pushy and was a thief in the past so maybe it was him that broke into Tina's flat. I wouldn't put it past him. His family caused so many problems with Tina's dad but now Gary is the big hero for getting the ring back. He has a lot of nerve trying to tell Tina she shouldn't see Tommy. She has never treated Tommy with any respect so he should move on and leave her to Gary. I was surprised that Owen was yelling at Tina re. Gary.
As for Faye, she seemed more like a normal kid today and it's the first time I remember her being happy and singing. Of course it will be drama time for Anna yet again but we at least got a break for today.
|Thanks Sharon, Hey Jude and Henry for answering my question about what Chesney sold from his market stall. Thanks Pearl for filling in who Sean had a conversation with in the cafe.|
I also wish the Katy/Chesney story would stop repeating over & over, it's getting annoying. Just be done already!|
I think Chesney knows in his heart he has lost Katy to Ryan, so of course he is hurt and angry...and everyone needs to stop guilting them into keeping their 'little family' together. I am loving the storyline with Mary being nanny & friend to the Allahan family, good stuff!
Leanne suggested to Peter that part of the problem with the bookies is that it was looking shabby and run-down. She said it needed new TVs and a lick of paint. That place was just entirely rebuilt. After Carla crashed her car into it. Completely renovated.|
Also, for those who wer asking, it was mentioned recently that Chesney sold "all things dog" from his stall.
You are right Jeannie, Sean had to answer the doorbell with his sandwich in his hand so Faye could ask for a bit, so he would give it to her cus she never had time for brecky so he then went to Roy's to eat so Anna (who he talked to) could find out Faye didn't get breakfast and have her daily moan to Owen. Anna's upset so all is normal in Corrie world.|
I think it was mentioned by Tim that they didn't get home for the movie til 11pm. That is late for a school night. Since Faye is still in Bessie Street school, she must be the equilvant to grade 6 here. What you want to bet she will fall asleep sometime during the day so that Brian can report back to Anna and she can have another hissy fit at Tim?
What I enjoyed most from yesterday's episode was the stand off between Nick and Peter. Nick came into the bookies all guns blazing and left with a flea in his ear when Peter implied L&N didn't need him to cause trouble between them. Too right, Leanne is a flaming war all on her own.
|The behaviour of Katy and Chesney just reflects the fact that they are a couple of kids, both very insecure and both lacking confidence in themselves. And why not, they haven't grown up yet! I think they're just behaving like the kids they are. Ches is extremely jealous and can't *man-up* to the situation because, He's NOT a man yet! They're too young to be parents but no one could tell Katy that at the time. She was in love with the idea of playing house. Chesney was the more sensible one, he was reluctant and let her know that but he was also a horomonal young teenage male and she just had to kiss him and he was a goner! She got her way and now they all pay for it, especially little Joseph.|
|I also noticed that Tina didn't mind that Gary was rude to Tommy. Since Tina and Tommy broke up, I have had nothing to complain about regarding Tina. Her behavior has been all right and she has not been mean or nasty in a long time and she was very nice and helpful to Tyrone and Fiz. And her recent interactions with Tommy have been very pleasant. But I hope they don't make her revert to her old behavior with Tommy because I really couldn't stand her then.|
Lynne: I so agree with your post! Also about Ches. and Katy being on a loop. You could also say the same about Anna, Faye and Tim. My poor neglected kids had no problem grabbing a peanut butter sandwich or some cereal. I just can't imagine catering to kids the way she does with Faye. This is like a time warp or Ground hog Day with the Ches./Katy and Anna/Faye stuff. Please get us out!|
I kind of have a soft spot for Chesney though because of all he's been through with his mom, Fizz and Katy and I understand where he's coming from not trusting Katy. After all, every time they argue she runs to Ryan. Let's hope this is the end for those 2.
|Garry is creepy, bossy and not to be trusted. I have never liked him and he seems like a bomb waiting to explode. He was rude to Tommy and Tina let it go by without a word. Izzy whimpers like a puppy and gives him the sad puppy eyes that he virtually ignores and then she goes off in her chair looking upset. Izzy seems afraid of him. He now has eyes for Tina and why she would ever give that man a second look is beyond me but I think she will. Short memory about those horrible Windass' of a couple years back? We all know that this is not going to turn out well. And Anna's adoption of a child still astounds me, she and Eddie did not do a stellar job with Garry and now she gets a shot at Faye with Owen's two cents worth added for back up(half sarcasm). Anna can turn anything into an epic crisis, end of the world event and I am tired of the pleading, whiny tone she has so often. Chesney is a twit, apparently it is his turn to turn off his brain. I am tired of the go round with Katey already, same old, same old. No one ever gets tired of jumping to unfounded conclusions on that street, just assume, never ask or if you do, don't believe the source, believe the gossip. I wish that the writers would not make a character so dim witted, it hard to like the dim and mean IMO -- Gail was not very likeable when her brain was removed during the Lewis incident and Chesney is losing his charm as well. Mary may have found her calling, Mary Poppins lands on Coronation Street. I like her in the role.|
Haili, I like Steve too!|
I didn't mean to imply that I didn't. He's one of my favourites too and I also still hope Liz will come back and run the Rovers again.
Faye took Sean's breakfast because she was hungry and also so that he would have to eat at Roy's where he had an important conversation with someone which moved the plot along. I can't remember who that was now, but he did and it did.
|Monique: Very true, it's like a merry-go-round. He also needs to listen to Fiz instead of biting her head off. He's just showing how immature he really is.|
|The Chesney and Katy storyline seems to be stuck in a loop. Chesney feels angry and betrayed, sees Katy talking to Ryan and gets more angry, starts thinking of starting again with Katy, sees her talking to Ryan, says it's over, meets her for a date to discuss starting over, sees her talking to Ryan and gets angry, questions her and checks her texts, makes her angry, they both say it's over, buys her flowers because he wants to start over, sees her talking to Ryan, gets angry again and says it's over. It's getting very tedious and Chesney's getting on my nerves. I also don't like the way he snaps at Fiz when she tries to help him after she put her life on hold to be there for him.|
|Haili and Leah: Of course Tim "should" have had some food in his flat, but Faye said they had gone to the movies the night before, so obviously they got home late, slept in and he didn't have time to make anything. This is Corrie-land where anything can, all, and does happen!LOL Shirley: You're cracking me up!!! :)|
|Haili, I thought the same thing about Faye not having any breakfast. As you said, there must have been some food in Tim's flat. Faye is old enough to make her own brekkie. So what gives? Is she just being a shiftless spoiled brat as usual?|
I thought Steve was kind of funny with that towel and I still like him better than most of the younger ones. I would have liked him to keep the Rovers and run it along with Liz but we don't always get what we want!|
What I thought was odd was Sean carrying a newly-made sandwich to the door when there was a plate right in front of him, and why would Faye ask for it? Surely Tim had something to eat in his flat. I suppose they slept in and that's enough to really upset Anna. It doesn't take much!
|What you're talking about doesn't seem like the episode I saw, maybe I haven't seen today's yet. That's right, I was saving 15% on groceries. I was tired today. Hubby helped me shop ( my wrist).|
|Steve's not losing his marbles. On the other hand I was a bit worried he would lose his towel when he sucked his tummy in. :)|
Hope is a great actress, she got porridge on her hands and face like real toddler would.|
It's so sad to see poor Chesney suffer.
Haili, I think Steve was the most offensive one in that scene.
And what's with all his weird looks in the betting shop?
It's as if he's losing his marbles.
|I missed a lot of the dialogue today by Katy and Tina and find that the younger actresses often talk fast and not very clearly. I also didn't think it was appropriate for Ryan to be sitting next to Katy in his underwear, though it didn't seem to bother her! I kind of liked Owen being stuck baby sitting Joseph. Not much going on today except more of the same but at least Anna didn't go into hysterics which was refreshing, though she was the same old worry wart. Gary's still showering Tina with attention and Tina's lapping it up ho hum.|
|Lynda: Thankyou for providing Matthew Crawley's name!!LOL And I only have the 3 seasons so far (don't know why I said 4!LOL)|
Herbert, in answer to your question - I think Karl will be caught... eventually. One thing we can be sure of baddies do get their comeuppance. But it might take a while. If you remember Tony Gordon, I believe he roamed free for at least a few months. And then there was Richard Hillman. . .
|Hey...Jude from B.C. The Downton character that had a miraculously quick recovery was Matthew Crawley. I also have seasons 1-3 and can't wait for season 4.|
Welcome to the Guestbook herbert and keep on posting your views about the show despite what some wrote.
We love details !
My own view is that we didn't see Carl pull the hose and now that hose is gone in the garbage there is no more evidence.
I think Carl is a great character and I hope he stays for a long time.
|CBC moved Corrie to 1 a.m. last night instead of midnight, so I missed Leno's newspaper segment that I like ( usually that night).|
Pearl, sorry about the bad typing. That happens when one types around a cat!!!ROFL|
Hey Jude - thanks for filling in the blanks ane correcting my hearing.....although my hearing her say smeghead did make me giggle. For anyone asea about smeghead, go to youtube and look for Red Dwarf episode The End and somewhere in the first 5ish minutes, you will hear a very young and lithe Craig Charles say smeghead a few times. The episode title is pretty much a misnomer since The End is the very first episode. Then there is the delightful clip of Lister trying to get Kryten to say smeghead and I put that clip as a link.
|Julie from Windsor THANK YOU for your wonderful post! Yes, that's exactly why things happen as they do sometimes! I think if we were writing and producing the show, we would find out very quickly that it's not always possible to play things out in a realistic time frame for those reasons you mention! It's a show, we have to realize that but some of us seem very caught up in disecting all the details and expecting everything to be completely realistic. It ain't gonna happen, may as well accept it! I know that sometimes it's hard to overlook some things, but we have to do that.|
Sharon: I thought Ches was selling more than just dog collars, I thought he was selling other dog stuff too, coats, booties, etc maybe? I also remember seeing scenes filmed at the stalls and I found it was just ho-hum, nothing special.|
Julie: YES!LOL I thought the character in Downton reocvered awfully fast too from his paralysis, but I`m a realist so I could totally understand why they had him recover so quickly!!LOL I have all 4 seasons on DVD, but I can`t remember his name!LOL :)
|Herbert: Of course the writers don't think we are stupid...I maybe questionable however from time to time...LOL. They do have to overlook certain elements in order to keep the story going. Had Karl been arrested for the murder ...(Mark...I'm not going there...just a presumption of course...;) then we would have been on to a few different stories by now. At least this way I'm waiting for him to show his true colours at some point. The writer/producer? of Downton Abbey got criticism for having someone recover from paralysis so quickly as it would never have happened back then. He did reply by saying that if he had kept it true to life...no one would watch the show as it would be a complete bore. I think sometimes we just have to let the 'experts' do their stuff, entertain us...and we have this wonderful forum to chyme in whenever we want. That's what I gotta say..|
|hi again sharon and to all other readers...do you feel that carl will be eventually caught and the truth will come out regarding the fire at the rovers, and that he was the direct cause to sunita's death...|
Jeanie - the last I remember seeing was that Chesney was selling dog collars - but that was while Smeichel was still alive - not sure if he is still selling those - good question!|
Herbert - yes they think we are stupid! Cheers!
|That's right, Pearl. We did see the outdoor market when Sal and Danny had stalls. I'd forgotten. Does anyone know what Chesney sells at his stall? Alec, I thought it was a bit jarring the first time I heard Lee call Stella Mum but I guess I've gotten used to it. But you're right, she always called Janice, Janice. Then again, Janice did annoying mother-in-law much better than she did Mother. Remember when she lived with Leeann and Danny Baldwin for a short time? :)|
I would think filming in a outdoor market place would have its dificulties with crowding etc. It has be done before though back in the 'Fred & Orcid?' days, also when Sally & Danny Hargraves had stalls. Don't remember it being that interesting.|
Agree Alec that Leanne did bond very quickly with her new family. Think it may have had something to do with "starring Stella" when she first arrived on the show. ThePTB seemed determind to make her an established character on the show and they haven't let up since.
Hi KLS, are you trying to make Saskatchewan even harder to spell. grin!!
|hi sharon, do you have any idea why the police did not verify the security cameras, was it just an over sight by the writers of the show, or do they believe we viewers are stupid|
|Herbert, having worked in a hospital for a long time, I know that cameras are everywhere! I worked in Engineering for 6 years and worked closely with Security. Short of going to the washroom or showers there was not much Security couldn't see staff doing on camera (which led to many a staff's dismissal, believe me). Although patient rooms themselves are not monitored by camera, (hallways, stairways, entrances, exits, etc. are) the likelihood of anyone going into an ICU room unoticed by the nursing staff is next to nil. I now work on a patient ward and we are sooo protective of our patients...|
|alo comments to my thoughts would be appreciated|
|spoiler...i am surprised that the police did not check the video cameras at the hospital where carl murdered sunita..all hospitals are equipped with video cameras..it would confirm that carl was in sunitas room alone on many occasions...herbert... end spoiler|
|KLS: No she never said smeaghead(?). The word was "smirking". Ryan told Katy she looked alright, better than alright. and Katy told him she and Chesney were finished. He said he was sorry and Katy said "your not sorry, you're smirking". She asked where he was off to and he said off clubbing. She said she would go with him, and he said really? She said she was going on her own or with him. That's the best I can do.|
|Guess I will never find out what Katy said....will stick to my original thought that she called poor Chesney a smeghead. Will have to live with the fact that she mumbles like Sophie does.|
Currently I am not loving what the writers are doing with Leanne. She refers to Stella as "mum" but called Janice Janice always. She refers to Gloria as "gran" but didnt she just recently meet her? It never rings true to me when I hear her referring to Stella and Gloria as such. I am not saying she cant grow to love them but in my view it is not in keeping with her character.|
Hey everyone btw. havent posted in ages. am watching the UK timeline now on youtube and loving being so current.
|Hey Jude, omg, that woman must have felt so embarassed when she fell. Luckily she didn't get hurt. They do look very sexy but I don't see how anyone can walk in them!|
Gail: I was in my local grocery store the other day, and a woman fell in her stilleto's! I was in the checkout line and heard this crash (her basket of stuff hitting the floor). I asked her if she was okay and she said she was and got up on her own. Yikes! Those shoes are def dangerous (I know, but they look so sexy!)LOL|
I don't know who, but someone yesterday said they couldn't understand Katy. The general gist of the conversation was this: Ryan came along and she told him it was over with Chesney, then she basically asked him where he was going. He said "the club" and she told him she was going with him. Not the exact words, but as close as I can recall!LOL And then of course we know the rest, as Gail said, she got drunk!LOL Chesney is being a total idiot and Fiz did right telling him he has to man-up.
|Now that Chesney is being hooked up with Sinead, we'll see where that leads him. She seems like a nice partner for him. He's never going to trust Katy again and I don't blame her for not wanting to be with someone who checks up on her and questions her every move but at the same time, you can understand where he's coming from. I felt sorry for Katy. She's hurting so bad and turned to Ryan who she obviously still has feelings for, she got drunk, it was such a mess! I'm glad she didn't break her neck walking in those HUGE stilletto heels on the cobbles! I also enjoyed seeing that side of Mary and clearly she did a great job with the twins!|
I loved Mary in yesterday's eppie she was so good with the children they are much calmer and settled when they are in her care. I would love to see this side of Mary.|
Mark, I had a tiny Corrie dream last night I was in a restaurant and across the room I spotted Norris I could see that he was having a conversation but couldn't see who it was with LOL! I like your suggestion that they show us Chesney working at his market stall. Although I'm not really fond of Chesney at the moment maybe a change of scene would make him a more interesting character.
kls: I also don't hear much of what Katy and Sophie say but on the bright side, I don't care that much, since it's usually boring.|
I missed a few decades of Corrie but have a few books to look up the characters' backgrounds. It makes them more interesting when you know the background. Some have been on for ages and I get attached to them and feel like I know them. I would like to see Leanne and Nick be happy together but I don't suppose that's going to happen.
|Leah from GTA: Well I maybe an incomplete idiot but I have no recollection of any car race that is for sure. I think it is a good idea to stop watching Corrie for a few months to get the repetitive and long drawn out portions into the background . But there are penalties apparently.|
|Thank you, Julia, my wrist is slightly better, but with a red circle on the back of it that doesn't really look like a bruise or feel much like it, but must be I guess.SPOILER My husband helped me a little with the wash today. I actually caught 3 p.m. Corrie today ( disappointed in Katy and Ryan, and Izzy doesn't seem to be able to get her honey to keep from Tina).|
Mark: Corrie's been on here in Vancouver at 3 for a week now, and CBC is not just showing 1 hockey game, it's back-to-back hockey. St. Louis and LA Kings were already playing when the Leafs lost and we just joined in-progress. I'm another who can set my PVR to any time Corrie is on and it'll record it. :)|
Gail: I watched the Leafs game, poor Leafs, hopefully they'll win the next one!LOL
|Dev and Mary? Nooooo, can't see that happening! LOL I do think that Mary has enormous potential. The actress is brilliant and Mary can be very funny and also very dark! I like the idea of her running some kind of business on the street. The Creche would be a good idea, or maybe a little cafe to compete with Roy and the Bistro although they probably already have enough restaurants on that small street. If Sophie quits working at the corner shop, maybe Mary could work there.|
|There was some humour not long ago Mark, with Sylvia, Dennis and Rita and the hash brownies and it went on for a couple of episodes. I agree they do need more humour though and lets hope they start to inject more of it into the show. Corrie was on at 3 today and is also on at 3 for the remainder of this week. They have it on at 1:30 AM, 2:30 AM, it appears to be very much inconsistent for the late broadcast, it isn't on at midnight. That's why I LOVE the PVR. It's set for *first run only* so no matter where they move Corrie, it will record it. Gotta LOVE the PVR! Judging by what's happening on the hockey game, I don't think the Leafs will be around much longer, but it is only game 3!|
I thought it was at 6:30 pm.
Why not just start hockey at 7 pm?
Why not just show a bit more humour on the show?
Like when Cilla and her friend were working at the chippy for the Chinese boss.
Or people doing something productive with their lives?
Or show Chesney selling stuff on his market stall.
I like your idea haili of a daycare on the street with Mary in charge. She is doing a grand job at the Alahan's, she more than capable when she puts her mind to something. I would leave Anna out of any business operation - she can become an emotional basket case when things go wrong.|
Wonder if anything romantic with develope between Dev and Mary. Even if it was just a mistaken perception on Norris's part it would be enjoyable to see him jealous of someone other than Rita.
Peter did say on today's show he has been running the bookies for 12 years which reminded me that this is the 2nd time he owned it. First time he bought it by shady means. Can't remember the details but a wad of money was left in a green mack hanging at a booth in the Rovers. The coat turned out to be Ken's. Shelley was helping Peter against her better judgement. Before that I think he did work at the bookies for Sean Skinner when and for how long is all very hazy. Anyone remember better?
Carla's celebrate dinner turned into an insult feast; Tracy to Michelle, Rob to Peter, Peter back to Rob etc. Even Nick and Leanne managed to get a few licks in LOL.
|KLS. We're lucky Katy and Soapy aren't in many scenes together. We'd never know what was going on. I don't know why the directors don't realize their mumbling is hard to understand and do something about it. Haili, I did see Mr. Selfridge. It didn't click with me that that was the actor who did the seance. Thanks for pointing it out.|
|Haili, I do agree with you that they need to get some new storylines going and not always revert to the same old cheating on each other scenarios. Maybe with the new producer on board, we'll see some changes. I also would love to see more of Ken and Deirdre but it appears that *Ken* is going to be out of the picture for a while so WR can sort out his own recent personal problem. I think they are trying to touch on something with Eileen and her problem with dealing with a partner who is in a high risk job, but everyone seems to have a problem with Eileen acting out of character so they apparently blew that one.|
|Ok, would someone tell me what Katey REALLY said when she was talking to Ryan? I came up with the same mess after two tries at it. I swear she said 'Chesney mumblemumblemumble smeghead' but I KNOW that is the wrong show!!! For those not familiar with the terms smeg, smeghead etc, do a search for Red Dwarf and go to the website. I have been happily watching Red Dwarf DVDs and thoroughly enjoying the antics of Craig Charles, Chris Barrie and Danny John-Jules.|
|Selby, I also have huge gaps in Corrie viewing. In my case it was due living in places where Corrie was not available or where there was no TV. I never saw Samir and when occasional references to him come up I only get the gist of what happened with him. I'm also a complete idiot. I told you I could vaguely recall Peter borrowing money from Simon. After putting an extreme strain on my memory I remember where I saw a father borrow money from his son--it was in The Full Monty. Full Monty? Corrie? Well, I suppose there is some association.|
|Me again! Did anyone else see the actor who played Steven, Audrey's son on Selfridge last night? He was supposed to be an American and was conducting a seance.|
|Sorry Gail. I spelled your name wrong.|
|Gayle: I realize there are only so many possible story lines but the same old characters all the time doing the same old whine eg. Anna and the s. gang get pretty stale. I'd like to see more of the other characters like Steve, Lloyd, Audrey, Nick, Leanne, Peter and Carla and we did get some of that tonight so maybe things are looking up. I would like to see more of Ken and Dierdre but that's not going to happen soon. Maybe we need some new blood. There was a new twist tonight re. business not doing well in betting shops. Also, I'm looking forward to Karl getting caught somehow and Jason getting some satisfaction from that - and Eileen getting her personality back. I must be more patient...|
|When you think about it, there are only so many *things* that happen in life and many of them wouldn't be interesting enough to keep an audience entertained! I think Corrie has explored lots of varied issues and done so very well. Relationship problems effect everyone and so they're exploring those and it appears they are recycling the old *cheating* theme over and over. Maybe they are running out of new and original ideas to built storylines around. What relevant social issues do you think they should explore that they haven't yet? What situations could they create for some of the characters that we haven't seen on screen before? Maybe the doctor could be leading a double life or something! They need to do something with Doc Carter because he's so pretty and we need to see him more. ;)|
|Have a good one, Annie!|
|Haili as usual I agree with your comments completely. I also hate the way Anna smothers Faye and treats her like a baby holding her hand when they walk down the stree as if she were a toddler. I also thought the 8 pm bedtime was a tad early.|
Selby: don't feel bad. I've been watching for years and forget half the story lines.|
Is it just me or is Corrie just the same old stuff being re-cycled every day? We have Ches. and Katy not getting along. He's jealous and she goes to Ryan. Then there's the s. gang with Izzy being jealous of Tina and Tommy jealous of Gary. Of course there is always Anna and her smothering of Faye. My kids would have been so embarrassed if I'd talked to her in public and fussed with their hair at that age the way Anna did today. Why on earth does a kid that age have to go to bed at 8 anyway? I raised my family to be more independent. Anna has problems with her own dependency and neediness.
|Pearl, Haili, TerryM: I don't remember anything about a car race or Lucy, Dan or Harry. I do remember the chat between Ken and Peter about the Bookies and Simon and that must be where I got the idea that Simon was the legal or moral owner of the Bookies. But now it looks like I'm just reaping my reward for sporadic viewing. Fun to look back though.|
"He received the money from Lucy's estate which stipulated he had to use it to raise Simon. Which he did as they lived above the bookies."|
HAHAHA is that joke? He raised Simon by elevating him to live above the bookie's.
Peter bought the bookies from Harry Mason. He received the money from Lucy's estate which stipulated he had to use it to raise Simon. Which he did as they lived above the bookies.|
I don't know of anything legal that says Simon will inherit the bookies. But could be wrong. Not much help I'm afraid.
|Please disregard my earlier post about Peter borrowing money from Simon. Now that I think about it, I believe that was on another show altogether.|
What I remember about Peter buying the bookies was Ken trying to talk him out of it, saying the money was Simon's. Peter's argument was that the income would support Simon. Of course Peter got into his usual rant about Ken never being there for him.|
I'd forgotten all about Harry Mason and son. So many story lines to remember over the years!
Did Des Barnes work in the bookies at one time?|
And wasn't there a booky Sean who also took a shine to Liz? I vaguely remember Andy McDonald walking in on him and Liz kissing. ??? (this would be in nineties)
Another booky memory that stands out for me: Peter and Shelley were an item and she eventually became landlady at the Rovers. Peter was angling for the bookies. He said, "You in the pub, me in the bookies. We'll be the king and queen of the street!" And he was serious!
|Hi Selby, I think the former owner of the bookies was Harry Mason, his son Dan worked with him. Dan and Steve had a gruge match going over a bet? or something. Anyway it excalated in to car rally, who could get from point A to point B the fastest. Leanne & Michelle were their cheerleaders. From there Steve locked Dan in the Rover's celler not knowing he had a head injury which left unattended nearly killed him. That put an end to the rivally. Harry had a estranged wife but took a shine to Liz who was married to Vernon at the time. He wrote a enchanting song 'beware of the Mason's charms' to woo her back. That was back in 2008 UK time. Can't remember when we saw it in Canada.|
Hmmmm... I don't know people, I'm still thinkining that bookies was put in trust for Simon. I couldn't find anything about it in the book, 50 Years of Coronation Street but that's not saying it isn't there. (I'm not saying I'm always right either.)|
Terry, you're the authority, the man who's written several books on CS. What does your research say?
|Leah: I believe that at the time in question I was in one of my periodic time outs that occur when I can't take it anymore. ::)) I really don't recall Lucy at all just the buying of the Bookies but I don't recall the former owner either. Must have been a sporadic viewing period.|
Happy Birtday Annie!|
Shirley: I hope your wrist gets better soon.
|Selby, I too have a very vague memory of Peter's borrowing some money from Simon. Maybe Lucy had set up a bank account or an education plan for him. Maybe I'm wrong. Gosh there are so many characters and storylines to follow that I don't know how it would be possible to keep them all straight. I think Peter promised to return the money. However, that doesn't change the fact that the bulk of Lucy's estate went to Peter. The next question would be why Peter and not her parents. When she left England she certainly had no reason think Peter was a responsible person.|
|I think you are correct. Peter got the money and not Simon. Not the way I remember it but that is what Corriepedia says.|
|Re: Simon owning the bookies, I've checked both wikipedia and corriepedia and both say that Lucy left all her money to Peter with the condition that he raise Simon. If you remember, Peter at first tried to fob Simon off on Ken and Deirdre. It was the bequest that helped to persuade him to keep Simon, that and falling in love with the cute little guy. Obviously Lucy made the will when she knew she would die while Simon was still very young. Therefore, the betting shop belongs to Peter, except for Leanne's share, which will soon be dealt with.|
|OFF TOPIC My wrist is really hurting me tonight as my grandson kicked a ball in the backyard and it hit it. I can't bend my wrist back or use it to hold a fork to cut meat, etc. I hope the recovery is short. The point is it hurts me to type this. On TOPIC My VCR worked to tape the omni, so expect it will work for the Midwife which I saw anyway. Sad to see an ending of a relationship due to texting, but know it could happen easily because to me that kind of relationship is also cheating ( excludes the other spouse and is covert, etc.). A mere message online can ruin a marriage.|
|Did my message get lost?|
|Maybe because Simon is a minor, Peter being his bio Dad and legal guardian can make all the decisions about the bookies until Simon is of legal age to do so. Katy is having all the regrets that everyone tried to tell her she would have if she had a baby so young, proving that she was simply much too young. Now poor little Joseph is the one to suffer his parents breaking up. (before they even got married!)|
I'm catching up work today so just had time to skim the GB so if I mix up names or posts please forgive me.|
Selby: thanks for the reminder re Simon and the bookies. You're right it is supposed to belong to Simon. Maybe I'm not the only one who has forgotten? (Nudge, nudge writers. You guys do get paid to keep this stuff straight :)
Yes, Haili, how could a soap surrogacy not have complications. I'm kinda glad this one did though. It makes for an interesting story and it also probably mirrors real life where these things can and probably do happen. I lead a pretty sheltered life but even I could see all kinds of red flags in this one.
Monique: I noticed that Tina is all smiles when Gary pays attention to her so she does smile sometimes! Leanne smiles too when she talks to customers but I know that's not often enough.|
Sharon: how can anyone be a surrogate mom on a soap with no complications? The writers couldn't pass up all the possibilities. Already, Tina and Tommy have split up and Izzy is feeling left out and sad. I look forward to finding out what happens when the baby is born.
I wish Tina would wear the yellow windbreaker or rain coat like I had in my dream.
Now that would be weird.
Addendum: I thought Fizz was bossing Chesney too much as if it's all his fault after he was with Sinead.
|That's true too Melissa...I know it's just a forshadowing of what's to come with Gary and Tina - although I wish it wasn't...why can't they just have this baby they both wanted so much without any complications! How about some joy in this show!!!!|
|Thanks for the laugh Monique re Tina. I don't think she has had that many lover though. David, Jason, Graeme & Dr. Matt unless I've missed some. She has been on the show for 6 years now. Oh oh, also Tommy. Still not many by Corrie standards.|
|Unfortunately for Izzy, I think Gary is growing closer to Tina. But at the prenatal classes, Izzy does not have to limit herself to be a spectator. She could have sat on the mat next to Gary or Tina or have all three of them in an area where the wheelchair would not be in the way of others. She could have cheered Tina on with the exercises and participated in the conversation.|
|Perhaps one solution for the Tina/Gary/Izzie prenatal classes would be to have someone other than Gary be the birth coach. I know he is the father, but Izzie is the biological mother. If Tina had her best friend (who would that be??) as her coach then Izzie and Gary could watch together instead of leaving Izzie feeling left out...just a thought...but I know...it makes sense!|
|Mark, if Tina was all smiles and pleasant in your dream, then how in the world did you recognize her? (Just being sarcastic, sorry, couldn't resist).|
I watched Friday's episode today and IMO Chesney and Katy are both too immature for their relationship, let alone parenting but she insisted on having a baby so now they have to work something out re. custody. Both of them need to have some fun but maybe it won't be with each other.|
I felt sorry for Izzy being left out at the childbirth class (or whatever it's called) but Beth was right in a way. Izzy can only be a spectator while Gary is being supportive. I always thought Gary and Tina had eyes for each other and he's one of the few men on the street she hasn't been with. Poor Izzy.
I broke the CBC Boycott this morning.|
Maybe I should just watch Corrie on Sunday mornings.
During the ads I can get some chores done and then rest during the program.
I agree with Selby and Haili about the bookies.
The equity belongs to Simon. Peter and Leanne are Simon's employees.
Isn't Simon supposed to have a trustee to look after his investment?
I had an uncle who worked for the government and who did that.
Gayle, I felt the same thing, with Leanne's Itch she must scare away all the punters not to mention Peter shutting the shop everytime he wants to go out.
I warned in the past that when the betting shop is closed during the business hours the punters would go elsewhere.
Why not serve free coffee and pretzels to keep them there?
But you walk in and you have Leanne barking at everyone because of her "Itch".
Gary is bamboozles everybody around him, even Owen.
Who cares the work day going down the tubes.
And who cares about Izzy.
Asha looks like a mini Sunita. Pretty.
Bruce...the fireplace at Chesney's seems to be getting bigger and bigger. I thought it was smaller when Ivy was there.
It was worth watching Corrie just to see Sinead.
I like the way she doesn't let herself get bullied by Beth and that she said Beth is a wallflower compared her mother.
I liked her low make up look and her drinking lemonade.
She seems quite mature. I like a girl that is different.
I hope that Chesney's shares his market stall table with Sinead so she can sell her perfumes.
On the other hand, Katy is quite pretty too especially with her blue eyes and thick hair.
It good to see how those texts messages can ruin a marriage.
I guess in the old days it would be one less thing to worry about.
It was nice seeing Mary in a different role.
My Corrie Dream: I dreamed of Tina. She was wearing a yellow windbreaker and was all smiles and pleasant.
Thanks for acknowledging my post Vera! How lovely that someone agrees with me! LOL! Sorry your boys lost last night.|
A comment regarding Leeanne's entitlement. I'm sure that she probably is legally entitled to her share of the bookes but does she always have to be so **itchy about everything! That girl is constantly in a bad mood I don't how Nick puts up with her. She must put the customers off.
Chesney is really starting to annoy me what the heck does he want from Katy? She wanted to get back together but Chesney just won't let it go. In my humble opinion it just shows how immmature he really is. Sorry to say but I think this is too big a storyline for an actor of his limited range to handle. The prenatal classes are held during the middle of a working day? When I attended them (25 years ago) they were held in the evenings. Tina said she was exhausted from one class I shudder to think how she will handle labour.
|Ahem....from not form..|
Selby: Yes....brilliant ....Leanne has half of the ownership of the bookies because Simon's inheritance secured that.Anyone else elaborate on the details...?|
Child support has not been discussed at all on the show, so she's getting ticked about the income form the company.
Fill in the gaps someone...???
|If the betting shop was bought with Simon's money then neither Leanne nor Peter are entitled to more than employee benefits and the money is Simons. And division of money via divorce is an irrelevant notion. Not that this will be remembered by most of the audience nor probably the writers.|
|Here's an idea for a new business on the Street: Anna should open a day care center! She is obsessed with kids and there is a great need for child care with all those babies with working parents. Joseph, Hope, Jack, the new kid that Tina's carrying and Dev.'s twins after school. Or maybe Mary could run it! We haven't seen Audrey and the hair salon lately.|
|You would think that living on the same street, child custody wouldn't be such a big deal. Lots of people share custody these days but I suppose if those people got along and could talk reasonably, they would still be married. It's a win/win to have an ex-spouse take the kids part of the time if it can be worked out. The bookie shop is kind of complicated since Peter bought it with Simon's inheritance from his mom, but then Leanne ran it while he was away and used the income to support Simon and herself. If Peter and Leanne were sensible (which of course they won't be), Simon could have a good life with parents and grandparents to look after him. The equity in the place should be for Simon when he grows up and the income to look after him and his parents. If Peter and Carla stay sober, there should be no problem sharing custody, but one or another seem to fall off the wagon and lately it's been Carla who couldn't be trusted to drive Simon home from school.|
|Leanne is entitled to 1/2 of the bookies since she and Peter were married. They did not have a pre-nup, so just like any marriage that breaks up ( and just like the marriage home)_- she is entitled to 1/2. Not sure what their agreement is about child support for Simon. He gave Simon to Leanne, but I dont think he sent support while he was living in California.|
|From one Vera to another ~ Please Get Well Vera D. ~ Liz Dawn ♥ Hi Gayle, Thanks for the Detroit shout out the other day ☺! - on topic - also Gayle, I agree with everything you posted! May 3 12:30. What was Anna thinking? : \|
|Vera Duckworth: Come on Girl...You can do it!|
|Interesting idea Julie to chart marriage statisics for CS. I know there have been some incredibly short one; Mike Baldwin & Jackie Ingram lasted 2 weeks I believe while Fred E & Maureen Holdsworth where married mire days when she ran off with Bill Webster. Those two plus a few more should bring the average length of marriage down a few years. As for lifetime ones, Jack & Vera did get to celebrate 50 years but I can't think of another one that long. Throw in the people who have been married 3 or 4 times to different spouses makes the divorce rate pretty high.|
|Thank you Ann for keeping us informed about Vera. As you say, we'll hope for recovery for her. I hope my VCR will still work. I had to change the tape and I used a head cleaner and stuck what I hope is an o.k. tape in to tape The Midwife and the omni tomorrow.|
|'"IS" more stable.|
|NANCY:- Welcome. I also have a digital antenna, we sometimes lose our signal from Rochester too, weather related I guess, although seems better in the winter. I heard there is a bigger (more capture area) antenna available, wonder if it ia more stable.|
|Liz Dawn (Vera Duckworth) suffered a massive heart attack at home and was rushed to hospital, she is in guarded condition. Hope she pulls through.|
|Leanne does own half the bookies. She worked with him as a partner and pretty much ran the place when he was hurt after the tram crash and when he swanned off with Carla. Her attitude sucks, though. If she doesn't watch it she'll lose Nick as well. What concerns me is Peter's lack of interest in trying to get Simon back.|
|Pearl: You are probably right about ownership of the bookies, but there was something in the back of my very tiny mind that said that there was a business deal between Leanne and Peter...Child support apart of course..I'm normally wrong...so I give to the Corrie experts once more...And you know who you is..lol|
|Why would Leanne have part ownership of the bookies? Peter bought it with money Lucy had left in trust for Simon long before he married Leanne. As for child support, if Leanne has full custidy and calls the shots for when Peter can see Simon, why should he pay her to be jerked around? She may have the right to money from him, but with her attitude she doesn't deserve any.|
|Julie - Yes, Roy is 58 and Hayley is 46 or 47.|
|With the exception of Roy and Hailey of course...What Age are they...Got to be 50/60/s?|
Daphne: I do believe that Leanne is part owner of the bookies and therefore would receive some kind of royalty cheque per month. Not only that, Peter has to be paying child support for Simon's keep. Anyone know the details of the ownership of the bookies?|
Chrissy: Yes that was uncomfortable to watch. I'm going to harp back to my usual record here....Can we please have a happy relationship under the age of 70 as it does look like they are setting Tina and Gary up...No spoiler folks as I don't know. Not every relationship ends in divorce or cheating. Here's my family stats just for a U.K perspective as they are all there except moi.
My parents had 3 kids, Mum's sister had 5...all roughly the same age.
Out of 8 kids...7 marriages.
Out of 7 marriages..3 divorces.
Out of 3 divorces.. 2 re marriages..now lasting after 10 years or so.
Corrie...not sure what the stats are but I cannot think of a happy ending for anyone that's not an octogenarian..
|I am hoping Chesney & Sinead hit it off and become a couple. It would be great to see the old Chesney back again, not a jealous guy who picks fights by going through Katie's cell phone or jumping to conclusions when he sees two people talking. He is just pushing Katie into Ryan's arms. Before you know it she will be moving into the newest TARDIS flat at Michelle & Steve's.|
|I felt really sorry for Izzy last night at the ante-natal clinic. The instructor didn't even acknowledge that Izzy was there and neither Gary or Tina realized she had left. Going to be 20 degrees here today and even warmer tomorrow. Time to do some cleanup in the yard and listen to the birds singing their hearts out.|
|Pearl - not sure but wouldn't Leanne be entitled to some of the income from the Bookies from the divorce and for sure she should be getting child support. He wouldn't even have a bookies if she hadn't looked after it when he was in rehab and when he was chasing Carla and then travelling the globe with her. She deserves something.|
May The Fourth Be With You!
|Welcome Melissa (and dog) . Do join us posting.|
|Mark, congratulations on your 2.5 years. Have a soft drink then. Sorry there's no emoticon for that.|
I am a lurker...living in Mimico also!! :)
Loving it here with my dog, and of course Corrie..
Leah..how odd you mention 'Mimico' this evening, my husband and I were chatting about different areas of Toronto this afternoon and one of the places was Mimico...and I asked him if it was still called the same name b/c you never hear of it anymore, even on the news and the city often just changes area titles.|
I am also a non cable person and I'm fine with it. I can get the channels I really want ..and they're free with an antenna and a digital box hooked up to my TV. Also still use a VCR to record Corrie everyday (justin case I miss something) I get 3 American channels also..which I seldom watch because they run the same shows on CTV. Yes..there is life after cable.
Leah..enjoy your new place..it sounds lovely.
|Off tropics *** You're welcome Leah. PS: I'm off the sauce since 2.5 years.|
|Hey Jude, yes I love the Cliffside area and you must have had fun there. My family lived just east of Broadview, within easy walking distance of the Don Valley. Before the Parkway and paved trails were built, it was very wild. My new place is actually in the old town of Mimico, waaaaay out in the west end.|
|Mark, thank you again for the further explanation about attaching the antenna. I very much appreciate it. I hope you don't mind, but I've printed your last entry in order to follow the instructions. At $40 per month for basic cable (which is a rip-off because they keep taking away channels), your advice will save me $480 a year. Have a beer on me.|
|Leah: Sounds like you'll have a great view near Lake Ontario! I can still remember as a little kid my grandparents place on Cliffside Drive - a bunch of little 2 or 3 story apartment buildings, and a lot of scrub and bush behind them. My brother and I used to love exploring - of course our world back then wasn't very big, but there were trails and a few homes back there, and I see on Google streetview they are still there!! I was amazed! Haven't been down to that area in literally decades. Enjoy your new digs!!|
Aunt Tenna topic:|
Leah, get a flat 2.5 lbs barbell plate like the CAP or GAP brand.
I glued it with hot glue because the plastic antenna base was too light and would fall over.
Make sure the antenna has the same end wire as a cable plug.
Some have 2 U shaped clips which is too complicated to hook up.
You can get longer wire for when you want to put the antenna on your balcony but bring it in when not in use.
The picture is as good as cable now that I have the digital box.
Enjoy your new life in your new apartment.
|Terry, Mark and Nancy. Thank you for the advice re: alternatives to cable. I think I'll go for rabbit ears. Mark, gluing them to a barbell weight is brilliant! I'm looking forward to watching less TV. My new apartment is right on the shore of Lake Ontario, so there'll be lots and lots of chances to walk and enjoy life. Still, it's nice to know some favourite shows won't be lost forever.|
|I keep forgetting to set my VCR for 3 p.m. Corrie ( or whenever it's on). I've been catching it at midnight, though it would be nice to go to sleep earlier. SPOILER It was nice to see Chesney inch toward better relations with Katy, how long it will last we'll have to see.|
Nice to see again Ivy Tilsley's old fireplace (after many years of not seeing it)in the Chesney scene! I love that fireplace (for some reason) ;-)|
Also, how many servers does Nick have working at the Bistro?
I mean we never see their faces but lots of different people coming and going from the kitchen to wait on the tables.
Nancy welcome to the Guestbook.|
Another cable free TV watcher!
|Thanks Pearl, I didn't see anything due to the CBC boycott.|
|Thanks Pearl. It sounds like I didn't miss much and maybe I'll catch it on Sunday. I think we're in the summer doldrums already and find that things on Corrie usually slow down a lot in summer.|
|re: no cable - I use HD antenna and DVR - there are a couple of American channels that go in and out with rainy weather and seasonally (ABC and PBS-Rochester mostly) - I could probably get another antenna and fix that. Compared to a cable bill, it paid itself off in less than a year. I stopped watching Corrie from about November to April due to annoying story lines and inconsistent characters and just kept up vaguely with what was going on through various chat groups. I watch Corrie on youtube mostly though - can't stand feeling like I'm missing random stuff picked for disclusion based on time constraints rather than story.|
|Hi haili, there was very little of Faye, Tim and Anna on today's show. Just breakfast wiht F & T in his flat, then a short conversation between T & A at the cafe. Most of the time was spent at pre-natal group with Tina, Gary & Izzy (part of the time). Also Leanne in a flap because Peter can't or won't pay her money (not sure for what?). Carla has a buyer for her condo (or is it a flat) and is offering to celebrate with Peter, Michelle, Steve, Rob and Tracy. We may see that happen on Monday. Now we at least know what has happened with it.|