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Hi Mark, I have no problem with Brian taking another job it is how he is going about it, not telling Julie he wants to quit teaching or that he as applied for a job in a different country. Even how he went to the interview just in case then got the job by default because the other candidate pulled out. He is just slip sliding through life the easy way. What annoyed me most was him telling the social worker how he felt about fostering and expecting her to take the blunt of Julia's disappointment. Was glad when she told him she would tell the truth. He should try it sometime himself.|
Yes haili, I remember Don Messer's Jubilee from the 60's. I was living in a boarding house for a while then and when it came on Sunday nights if anyone dared to speak while entering or leaving they got 'the glare'. It was the landlord's favorite show. As for Carol Burnett, PBS had a special on her about 2 weeks ago. You can also watch bloopers from that show and others on youtube. They are hilarious!!
|For comedy, Carol Burnett had the best entertainment back in the day bar none. Her show was hilarious and just picturing her in some of those get-ups makes me laugh just thinking about it. She was brilliant, so were the other 3 who were involved in the skits. George Strombo had her on the show just the other night and she did her famous "Tarzan yell"!LOL I remember seeing listings for Don Messer's etc, but never watched those shows. I only showed interest in Ed Sullivan if someone really famous was going to be on, like Mick Jagger, the Beatles, etc.|
Lynn in Halifax and others, I loved Tommy Sexton in those shows. I was |
saying this to a new friend and she said, well, she went to school with his
sister and at her grad the sister wore a man's suit and it was Tommy's! I feel
closer to him hearing this.
For Joanne see below this post|
Chris from Ontario (at 18.104.22.168) wrote on December 4, 2013, 15:19:
I know I sound ancient but I miss the old variety shows and the comedy of Carol |
Burnett, Flip Wilson, Bill Cosby etc. Now we pay for TV but all those old (and
better quality) shows were free! We get plenty of channels but seldom anything I
really want to watch except for PBS these days. The loud laugh tracks spoil the sit
coms these days and I find it too annoying to watch them. There is nothing on
like All In the Family, WKRP, Mary Tyler Moore etc. these days - or maybe I've lost
my sense of humour. The old shows were funny enough that we didn't need loud
laugh tracks to tell us when to laugh. I'm ranting again. Must stop.
|My father in law was from Nova Scotia and he loved Don Messer's Jubilee and never missed it. I remember it although it wasn't something I made a point to watch. My Dad was a big fan of Tommy Hunter and we always watched it on Friday nights. I actually went to a taping of The Tommy Hunter Show when I was little for a friend's birthday party. I have a vague memory of it at best LOL|
|Haili, our whole family loved Don Messer's Jubilee and never missed it. Marg and Charlie singing, "Smile the while you kissed me sad adieu". "Goin' to he barn dance tonight". Thanks for reminding me of it. Of course we also watched the Andy Williams show, the Dean Martin show and, naturally, Ed Sullivan. I wish variety shows would come back to replace Duck Dynasty, Hoarders, etc. ad nauseam. (They can't take away Amazing Race though.)|
I missed 22 Minutes and don't watch it much anymore since Rick and Mary |
left. The sound on my computer is too low to hear but I'll try to catch it in re-
runs. I used to really enjoy Codco and the Air Farce.
Does anyone remember Don Messer's Jubilee? It was once the most watched
show on TV for the time slot but CBC cancelled it because it wasn't considered
cool. That was many years ago.
Mark: I think Beth gets the cut pieces of cloth and smuggles them out instead
of sewing them all herself but they used to count how many each person did
every day. It was pretty silly having them on the table in the cafe where
anyone could see them.
Chris, I remember Irv Weinstein too! LOL and Rocketship 7 in the morning with Dave Thomas! My little brother never missed it, I was a little too cool for Rocketship 7 LOL I also recall *Do you Know where your children are?* He would say *It's 11 PM, do you know where your children are?* Now those children are wondering where their parents are! |
I understood everything they were saying in that skit, but they were talking so fast that I missed a few things I think. I was cracking up at how much Cathy looked like Liz LOL and Tina with her hair piled up! Hilarious!
Gail and Joanne, you're welcome; glad you enjoyed the parody. Gail I tried to understand some of the rhyming slang Liz and Tina were speaking, but I was only partially successful. I'm not from the UK, so I only know a few of the more common rhyming slang constructs. I needed the subtitles, even second time round. For anyone who wants to watch the skit, I posted a link below at 15.19 hrs to 22 Minutes: Season 11, Episode 8. The segment starts at about the 15 minute mark and runs for about 2 minutes.
Lynn, I'm from St Catharines - moved to GTA when I was 18. When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time in the Port Colborne area - swimming and camping at Sherkston Quarry and Elco Beach on Lake Erie. I remember watching Irv Weinstein, too. Didn't Irv Weinstein start off his broadcast with "Do you know where your children are?". Because of all the fires, we began to call Buffalo: "Fire City". ☺
|Hey Jude and Chris: Thanks. Found it. Can't believe I didn't need the "translations" at all. Do know why I rarely watch 22 Minutes, though.|
Good point Gail, David could have played it out differently an Lord it over Nick and Kylie LOL.|
Haili I agree with your agreement about Kylie.
Pearl I don't see anything wrong with Brian wanting a career change.
Most of them on Corrie change careers and many teachers on this Guestbook spoke about the burn out of teaching kids.
To liven things up, I'd have Eillen fall in love with him and move away LOL.
So how does Beth get the materials out of the Factory to give to her niece?
Isn't someone in charge of inventory control?
In a real factory the materials and supplies are behind a fenced area and no one but the inventory control clerk can dispense materials and supplies upon presentation of a written request.
|Joanne: I think Chris said you can catch it online.|
Gail: Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense. I'd heard that before about HD, but had forgotten and didn't make the connection.|
Re: Corrie spoof on 22 Minutes. I missed it. Any way I can catch up ... a repeat, perhaps? Have checked the "Search" on my TV source, but it only shows futures, not pasts. Thanks for any help.
|Hi Leah, Agree that characters due to depart soon are made disagreeable or more unlikeable in some cases. Brian reminds me of John Stape doing whatever will get him out of his current crises only to cause more trouble for himself. Also a student of the Steve Mc school of problem advoidence.|
Thanks Chris! I just watched the Corrie sketch on 22 minutes and it was hilarious! Good job, only Cathy Jones as Liz was speaking in more of a Cockney accent than she was a Northern England accent and so was one of the guys. Did anyone else notice that? |
Joanne, I think maybe it has a lot to do with the lighting on Corrie. It's a bit harsher than on J & J. Maybe J & J wasn't shot in HD either. Apparently actors hate HD because it shows up every little flaw. I've noticed on Corrie how some of them are flawless, and others not so much since they started to shoot in HD!
I don't like Dawn French's character at all on J & J, I find her multiple personalites so irritating and it bugs me the way they all let her get away with so much! But I do like Dawn French in most other things I've seen her in, especially The Vicar of Dibley.
|Watch "Jam and Jerusalem" last night, which I usually don't because I can't stand Dawn French, and Sue Johnston (sp?) looked much younger and much nicer than she does on Corrie as Gloria. The J & J episodes were done in 2011, only two years earlier. Could it be because her hair was nicer, warmer in colour and not so brassy blonde? No-one can age so much in so short a time, surely?|
In case you had to see Irv|
Loved the 22 minutes Corrie parody. I will compliment and get details if I run into any of them. Not to be funny but for some reason I run into that cast freakishly often. No, I am not stalking them -- Shaun M on Spring Garden Road, nice guy, told him I thought he was funny and talented, had a nice chat, no gushing, I am not a celeb worshipper.; couple months ago Cathy Jones at chapters, Mary Walsh on the street in the north end in the past, Greg Tomey in a restaurant. And think way back to the Codco days ( I loved codco; Friday night girls, spook and nipper, the House of Buggell and more) I never missed it. My friend once lost her mind seeing the late great Tommy Sexton walking down the street near Dal. A very funny man gone much too soon. I will never forget her over the top reaction to "there is Tommy Sexton", he was among other things Marg at the Mental, mental illness that lives a Mom's place -- edgy not politically correct and IMHO very funny.|
***Nick needs more time off work, he should only be pt at the job now and be attending some post accident therapy and treatment.
***I hope Grace is found out soon.
****Chris: Port Colborne resident until the age of 18 then on to K-W for a few years. Yes, WKBW was the biggie on tv too. Remember Eyewitness news at 11 with Irv Weinstein??-- every night at 11 one could see Buffalo burning down (this was the 70s). We used to call it Erv's Witness News -- my late wonderful friend who could not endure life past the age of 22 started to call him that and I can never think of the late news without that name going through my mind...and it makes me smile, gone for over 30 years and still makes me laugh.
CBC has put up the episode from 22 Minutes with the Coronation Street skit - Season 11, Episode 8. The Corrie skit comes near the end of the program.
|Chris: Yes, I agree, the 2 male characters were a bit of a head scratcher for me too, especially Mark Critch portraying ....? My best guess was Peter, but they had the hair all wrong!LOL|
I don't know who is worse, Brian who doesn't tell Julie about the job, or Julie who
never listens anyway. He tried several times to tell her how fed up he is working
with kids but she just tunes him out and keeps gushing about fostering.
Even with Beth cheating, Sally gets more done. Sally will be so smug.
|I nearly always miss the first minute or two of Corrie so will hope I catch it at midnight. SPOILER have to say those style of knickers didn't appeal to me. Wonder how much different the taste over there is to ours over here. Nice? of Mary to take food over for Dev + the kids. Hayley's ideas for bridal gowns were awful weren't they? Hope the ideas they have now will look nice and be finished before she needs them ( if they still end up getting married with his eye roving Tina's way already).|
Thanks, Hey Jude. Liz and Tina were well portrayed, but the two male characters were not, imo. Thanks for your view. ☺
|Chris: That skit on 22 minutes: I think Shaun Majumder was supposed to be Jason and Mark Critch was likely supposed to be Peter!!LOL Just a guess IMHO. OMG Susan Kent was great as Tina and Cathy Jones had me in stitches being Liz!LOL|
I don't know why my post on 'How to Cook a Husband' was a spoiler. I think the spoiler reference was a relic from an earlier post that contained a spoiler. I must try to stop multi-tasking as I'm crap at it.
SPOILER: Lisa, this recipe was from a cookbook published well before Mrs Beeton's classic (early 18th century, I believe). Michelle should use this recipe with Steve. And, Carla with Peter.
I'm pretty sure my wife knows this recipe well. ☺
Mrs. Beeton's Cookery Book was what Mary was holding. I have one identical |
to it that was given to me by my mother-in-law. She told me that book was
for the well-off, not the ordinary housewife. I can see why as there are
illustrations for automatic dish-washers! In the 1920s!!
SPOILER: Leah, we'll see how Beth sneaks the extra knickers into the faktry in an upcoming episode that also concludes the storyline.
|Susan, my first recollection of a pop tune was, "If I Knew You Were Coming I'd Have Baked a Cake". It wasn't popular for long. I guess someone left the cake out in the rain.|
I'm wondering if Corrie purposely makes characters less likable just before they leave the show so they'll get fewer complaints from fans about their leaving. I identify with Brian's not liking kids because he's worked with them for so long, but he's being very deceptive and cruel to Julie. It's going to hurt her so much more than if he had told her the truth to begin with. |
How is Beth sneaking the extra knickers into the factory without being seen? I don't think they'd find much space to be alone there. Besides, Fiz works there and the secret seamstress lives with her brother. It's probably not a question of if Beth gets caught but how soon.
|If you really want to go back to the dark ages, how about "Baby It's Cold Outside" with Steve Lawrence and Edie Gorme. My oldest sister played all that stuff. No Elvis for her.|
|Chris: Thanks, I'll PVR it tonight!|
OMG, did you see the Coronation Street skit on tonight's 22 Minutes? It was so funny. Liz was behind the bar and Tina played a slapper. She was pregnant after a one-night stand. I couldn't match the two male characters with any Corrie characters, though. Well done CBC! ☺
Filming the motorhome would take place on a set not in a cramped vehicle. |
Just like filming inside the houses, it is a set.
Thanks Julie, Richard Hillman (Brian Capron) was one of my favourite Corrie villains. Here is the link to: MasterChef Season 8, Episode 8. The duration is almost one hour.
If you just want to see a short segment, here's a 1.47 minute video from the BBC showing Brian Capron in the weeds. ☺
Leah, you're welcome. It must be difficult to film inside a motor home. When they film on a set, the room usually has only two or three walls. So no challenges to position cameras, lighting and microphones. If they need to, they can remove a panel in one of the walls not in shot and point a camera through it. But filming in a motorhome must present many challenges with positioning the camera and the other equipment. Maybe they have trouble adding additional lighting inside as Mary's motorhome doesn't look as bright and cheerful as some of the pics at the links I posted earlier.
Anyone wanting to see if Richard Hillman can cook, watch
Celebrity Masterchef UK season 8 on YouTube. Chris, Terry M
anyone? Can you post the link here. It's far superior to the
Masterchef that we know and the Richard Hillman bonus on the
celebrity version is just an added touch. Enjoy!|
|Chris, thank you for the details about Mary's motorhome. I'm glad to know it's not as cramped as it looks!|
Leah, Mary's motorhome is believed to be a Bessacarr E789 Highline Motorhome. It looks quite nice, plenty of room for two people, although Norris would find it claustrophobic with Mary. ☺
Specifications: overall length - 8.67m (28ft 5in); overall width 2.35m (7ft 8in); overal height 3.09m (102in). Pics and more specs here.
My wife and I have talked about buying a motorhome when we retire. A few years ago, we rented a class C motorhome (about 21 foot, I think). We had it for a week and really enjoyed traveling in it. We owned a 22 foot house trailer back in the 80s and 90s. We used it for many years and we had two kids under the age of 10.
Joanne: I'm doing OK thanks but haven't much energy these days. It takes a lot of |
patience which I haven't got!
|Hi Daphne, I agree with your take on Kylie, she does love David but is giving him a rough time for his own good. Too often in the past Gail, Audrey and even Tina have mollycoddled him after a 'David blowout' when he says sorry and begs forgiveness. This time requires him to show change by actions not just talk.|
Hello Corrie Fans. I have started a new Facebook group for those of us who enjoy reading and talking about Spoilers and ANYTHING Corrie related. Please come and join me there and share your stories, pictures and opinions on our most beloved characters on the most famous street in the world Coronation Street. I look forward to meeting you!|
The Men and Women of Coronation Street
Not sure about Kylie being a b.... Are you referring to the way she is treating David? In my opinion she is using tough love. She is smart enough to know that if they let him back in he will never ever change. She might let him in again if he ever shows that he has turned over a new leaf but so far he has shown no initiative to do anything for himself. We will see what he does now that his gran has given him a base to start from. Do I feel sorry for him - not one little bit. David is now learning what he should have learned years ago - that there are consequences to every action we take. Let's hope this will be the making of him and we see a nicer kinder wiser David in future. I'm really tired of his delinquent behaviour. It's time to transform him - we have enough bad apples on the Street.|
I agree - all recordings of Santa Baby except the ones by Eartha Kitt should be banned. She made it her own and no one else can compete.
Oh, sorry, I forgot to add Happy Birthdays to all December birthday posters, which I hope will be acceptable, since I often overlook the reminder on this page. I'm dreadful about remembering birthdays ... even with my own family, I have to look them up to be sure to get them right ... have always had a "mental block" with birthdays. So please forgive and accept my very best wishes to all who'll celebrate this month.|
Now it's time to struggle out with food waste bin and the recycling Blue Box .. oh, my life is just thrill after another !! The excitement is almost too much!!! :-)
|Julie, Chris and Vera -thank you so much for the birthday wishes!|
Gail: I agree with you about Dean Martin. Always thought he was a better singer than Sinatra, although I realise that's heresy. Dean had a voice like velvet ... so soothing to listen to, and also very sexy, without being obvious, I thought.|
Haili: Hope your post-op recovery is going well? Also agree re: old songs "re-made". The new versions are so often ruined with all the twiddly bits, plus the up-and-down-the-scale note-hunting mentioned before. A bit like re-makes of old movies and old TV shows .... they're never quite "right" somehow. I still have all my old vinyl LP's and it's great "going back in time" with them. As (I think) Monique said, music brings back memories, times, people and places that once were.
Off any topic: A good start to the day! My newspaper carrier is back after time off for recovery from major surgery. Found my paper at the door rather than down the driveway in a puddle, so I knew she was back! Alas, she's quitting at the end of this year, or so she said ... not surprised, since she has a husband, two very young children (one of whom has cerebral palsy), an outside job *and* does the paper route. Remarkable young woman! She's one who truly deserves the small gratuity I leave out for her at Christmas. It'll be a bit more this year, I think.
Every time they show the inside of Mary's camper van I have an uncomfortable feeling. She might not feel claustrophobic and lonely, but I feel that way on her behalf. I wish she'd lose the camper van, get the insurance money, and find a proper place to live. Of course I hate camping in general. |
Brian and Julie are bugging me right now. Was taking Julie to Wales ever part of Brian's plan if she dropped her desire to foster? Now that he has tacitly accepted the job, he has to man up and tell Julie. Anna was right, anyone who knows Faye should run like mad to avoid fostering. Eddie was the wisest Windass after all.
Anyone been to Wales? I've only passed through part of it on the train to take the ferry to Dublin. I've heard Wales is a great place to visit.
Corrie can't be too interesting lately since we're all talking about music and |
old radio stations! Same old Anna defending Faye no matter what she does
and yelling at Mary. The knickers on the table at the cafe were ridiculous;
anyone could have seen them.
I wish they wouldn't play Christmas music until the last week and I don't like
re-makes of old songs. I agree that Eartha Kitt's is the only version of Santa
Baby that should be played and I love the Beach Boys. Most new singers that
do old songs drag them out slowly and ruin them. I love the old country music
but hate new country. I love folk music and PBS had a good show last night
with the oldies. I like seeing the old clips rather than the old singers.
|I forgot to say that the Garth Brooks Xmas CD I mentioned is called *Beyond The Season*.|
Hey Jude, that's too funny because my Dad looked very much like Dean Martin. He had the same hair and look about him as Dino! |
I'm not a country music fan although I did dabble with it for a while back in the early 90's! But one of my fave Christmas CD's is by Garth Brooks. It was his first Christmas CD and only his 4th Album release. He does a fantastic job of some beautiful Christmas standards in his pure crystal clear voice and he gives them a very simple country sound but it's beautiful without any over production. I highly recommend it for just kicking back and relaxing to during the busy Christmas season.
|OFF TOPIC WE all listened to CHED back in the day here, late 60's, 70's, etc. Remember Chicken Ma a an-n-n. It was silly but fun. Montgomery, etc. That and CKUA. I wasn't into country, but a lot of people out here are/were, so CFCW. I like stations that play a variety, and not too much talk. At holiday time I like to hear 6 , ____ boomers, or Meli-ke liki ma, and Feliz Navida, etc. My favorite carol is Hark the Herald Angels sing. ON TOPIC Poor Mary, wish she'd welcomed Norris and Emily so she wasn't alone to face Faye, etc. again. Sorry she's being picked on. Nick really is having a hard time. I didn't understand one of the instances though, but can't remember it enough to talk about it.|
Gail: Yes! John Gilbert! My God I haven't thought of him in decades. I love it: Larry Solway Lite!!!LOL|
My Dad kind of looked like Ole Blue Eyes, so I've always liked Frank Sinatra!LOL
I hope everyone in central and southern Alberta is safe. CBC says blizzard's are rolling through the area!
|I love *Baby It's Cold Outside* as sung by Dean Martin. I like anything sung by Dean Martin!|
|The only person who should ever have sung "Santa Baby" was Eartha Kitt and that's the only version that should ever be played. She made it "her" song. Any other versions were pale comparisons.|
|There was another radio talk show host who my mother adored and I think he took over from Larry Solway on CHUM radio probably in the 80's. His name was John Gilbert. He was *Larry Solway Lite* LOL Not as rude as Larry was, but still could be rude! Coincidentally, my Dad knew him when he was a teenager in East End Toronto.|
Hi Monique, oh yes I love Natalie MacMaster! Have you seen the You Tube video of her and her children performing at the Dublin Irish festival? 2 of them played the fiddle and they all danced! So amazing! such a talented family : )|
Lynn, I'm with you regarding The Beach Boys music, I never liked them!
I also agree w/you girls about Paul Mc's Christmas song, it's awful, same as Madonna's 'Santa Baby' grrrr
So, I guess those are a few of my least faves, oh and Rap music, I don't like that at all.
Hey Jude, I haven't seen Becker's stores around for a long time now. I just checked it out and it was bought out by the parent company of Mac's Milk in 1996. They used to be in every strip mall around Toronto at one time! Apparently it was founded in Ontario and they only operated in Ontario. |
oh ya, Larry Solway was SO opinionated and rude IMO but my Mom thought he was awesome LOL
Julie, you are welcome and thanks for reminding me of the Farewell Becky clip. There are several other "Farewell..." videos on YouTube: e.g. Mike, Liz, Jack, Vera, Ashley. One of my favourites is Goodbye Blanche ☺
There's the "Betty Driver Story", also a series of videos called "The Corrie Years". And, there's another series of Corrie specials called "Family Albums". ♥
Julie and Janice, I remember hearing about Radio Caroline. I thought it was so strange that we in Canada could listen anytime to the Brit music of the day, but that it was available in the UK on BBC radio for a only a few hours a day. I can see why Radio Caroline flourished. Here is a link to the movie trailer for The Boat That Rocked.
|I remember Al Boliska and Bob MacAdorey too. Good times for radio and music!|
Selby: Thanks, oh so he was there before I started listening to CHUM.|
Gail: Too funny! So you are saying Becker's doesn't exist anymore? I could be wrong, but I thought they were still around last time I was in Toronto ('99). Too funny about your Dad being jealous of your Mom cause she liked Larry Solway. I don't think my Mother liked him too much - said he was too opinionated!!!LOL
Looks like Boliska died in 1972 of a heart attack. He was replaced at |
CHUM by Jungle Jay Nelson. All this history is making me feel as old as I
Hey Jude from BC: I believe Al Boliska was on CHUM as the very early |
guy in the late 50's until the mid 60's. I believe he died shortly after he
left the station.
|*~*Happy Birthday Lise‼*~*|
Gail and Hey Jude, we had never heard of Beckers or Mac's convenience stores before we moved to the GTA. In Niagara, we had Avondale Food stores. Avondale Dairy made the best ice cream. ☺
|Chris, that's so bizarre that Bruce Jones found that girl's body. Maybe a bit of a stretch to blame his years of drinking problems on it though. Sounds like an excuse worthy of Les Battersby, but I'm sure he needed a good stiff drink right after he found her. What a shock that must have been.|
|Hey Jude, the name Al Boliska is very familiar to me. I think he was one of the very early morning show CHUM DJ's. I also remember Bob MacAdorey and Jungle Jay Nelson, and Larry Solway had the morning chat show which my Mom always listened to. She adored Larry and thought he was right about everything, and my Dad hated his guts and thought he was an ignoramus! LOL My mom thought my Dad was just jealous because she liked Larry so much LOL OMG, I don't know why Hey Jude, but I cracked up laughing when I read that you went to *Beckers* for your CHUM CHART. LOL I haven't thought of Beckers stores in many years. I remember my Dad used to LOVE their ice cream and at Christmas they made Yule Logs which we always had and this amazing Egg Nog Ice Cream and we always had it in the freezer.|
Julie, I couldn't find a picture of Les wearing his pulling jacket, but I did find this image of him and Cilla on their wedding day. You can see and hear Status Quo at the link in my earlier post.
Anyone remember the Yorkshire Ripper who terrorized west Yorkshire from the mid-1970s to 1980? On October 1 1977, Peter Sutcliffe murdered Jean Jordan and left her body on wasteland. Next morning, Bruce Jones visited his nearby allotment and discovered her body. In 1997, Bruce - as Les Battersby - walked onto the cobbles. Jones claims he was so traumatized by finding the body that it lead to his problem with drink.
Happy Birthday, Lise!
|Happy Birthday Lise!|
Chris: I was just thinking of that scene recently. Les and
Cilla were complete lowlife but always good for a laugh.
Remember his snakeskin 'pulling jacket'and his love for one
chord quo? Oh the good old days! |
Do you remember Les Battersby trashing his wedding gifts? He thought he was trashing Status Quo's dressing room, but they were wedding gifts for Cilla and him. When Les threw the flat-screen TV out the window, he said "this one is for Keith Moon". LOL
|Oops I miscalculated. It was two days after my fourteenth birthday. But I was still young and innocent. I stayed naïve and innocent for a long time. My mother says I still am!|
|Found the song with Haley and Roy and the song playing in the background and it is: wait for it........"These are the days of our lives." Watched the video, excellent song with a very thin Freddie Mercury.|
|Wow Maggie, I wasn't aware of that! That was just two days after my thirteenth birthday, so I was still too young and innocent at the time! I remember seeing posters for Quadrophenia though. The very first concert I attended was a few years later at the Montreal Forum when I was 16. There were a bunch of performers including Gloria Gaynor.|
Selby: I never heard of Al Boliska. When was that? I remember Bob MacAdorey, and I remember CHUM announcing the horse race winners at Woodbine(?) race track. I remember most of my CHUM listening days were from the mid 60's right through to the mid 70's, then I changed to listening to CFTR 680 while I drove to work in the mid 80's. |
Chris: I remember heading off to Becker's or the local candy store in my neighbourhood to pick up my weekly CHUM Chart too!LOL
|CKGM was the rock station here when I was a teenager in the seventies. They had a contest where they phoned people at random and if you answered "I listen to CKGM" you would win $1000. One day my father was home alone when they phoned. Of course my father did not like "modern" music and didn't have a clue about CKGM so he did not answer correctly. We were mad at him when we came back, as if he could have known! He was pretty upset about it too as he was really into contests so he taped "I listen to CKGM" on the phone.|
I've enjoyed reading the love/hate stories and music memories. Coincidentally, does anyone remember when The Who was arrested in Montreal (and why)? It was exactly 40 years ago today. Here's the story:|
"Following an incendiary performance at The Forum in Montreal on Dec. 2, 1973, the Who attended an after-show party put on by executives from RCA. Would you be surprised if we told you that legal trouble and property damage ensued?
The Quadrophenia tour has reached its apex, and the Who planned to celebrate by ushering in their variety of holiday cheer. The hospitality suite at the posh Bonaventure Hotel (note: Pete Townshend remembers it as a Four Seasons) was the scene for the festivities that one witness would later compare to “Hiroshima”!
Keith Moon, well known for his talent as a re-decorator, got the party started when he smashed a bottle of ketchup against the wall. Townsend remembers in his autobiography ‘Who I Am,’ “I thought it looked aesthetically pleasing. Someone should frame it, I said”. The fuse had been lit, because Moon proceeded to kick the existing portrait from its housing, and frame his ketchup “art” on the wall. Townshend also recalls cutting his hand with a knife, and adding blood to the masterpiece in progress.
What developed over the next few hours has now become the stuff of legend, bordering on myth. Evidently, a sofa ended up taking a flight from the window of the room to the street below. A television set was hurled to the bottom of the hotel swimming pool. Ultimately, the floor of the suite ended up a blinding display of shattered glass and demolished furnishings. The peak of the annihilation occurred when Moon and Townshend decided to expand the space of the hotel room.
As Who crew member John Wolff remembers in ‘The Complete Chronicle of the Who,’ Moon and Townshend picked up a large ornate marble table and used it as a battering ram, smashing through the wall to enter the room next door! Townshend remembers being “shocked” when he later saw photographs of their handy work.
Memories are clouded regarding exactly how it all went down, but eventually the police (not the band) were called to the scene. Consequently, the Who and fourteen members of their touring party were arrested and removed to jail. According to one source, Moon reportedly complained to the police, “I believe I booked a suite”! The only member of the group who not arrested was singer Roger Daltrey. Townshend seems to recall that Daltrey was indeed arrested, but not present at the earlier hotel demolition.
For a band’s eye view of the escapade, refer to the John Entwistle’s song ‘Cell Number Seven’ a track inspired by the events that happened that night. Found on his 1975 LP ‘Mad Dog,’ the tune is a humorous and honest portrayal of their time in jail through a willing participant’s eyes. The lyrics, “Me and Moonie were in cell number seven/ He dribbled on my jacket in cell number seven” give a glimpse into the content of the song and the events of their detainment.
The next day the group’s local promoter delivered almost $6,000 in cash to the police station for damages, and everyone was released. The Who missed their scheduled flight to Boston, but eventually made it on a later flight in time for the show the next night. The entire experience apparently spawned an angry and defiant Who for that evening’s powerful performance. In the end, the extravaganza ended up being just another day on the rock and roll battlefield for the Who.”
Lynn, I grew-up in the Niagara Peninsula as well. My two older sisters were great fans of 1050 CHUM. Every Saturday, they went to the music store to pick-up their CHUM-Charts. I listened to CHUM as well, but my main station was Buffalo's WKBW 1520 with 50,000 watts of power. My favourite disc jockeys were Danny Neaverth, Joey Reynolds and Tommy Shannon.
On certain nights, I was able to listen to a Chicago FM radio station that broadcast live free-form jazz from a nightclub. I was also able to listen Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops. And then there was Eugene Ormandy and the lush sounds of the Philadelphia Orchestra. That all ended when we left Niagara.
When we moved to the GTA, I listened to CHUM-FM and in the late seventies, I tuned in to CFNY-FM for punk and new wave. Except for disco and rap-crap, I loved just about all the pop music from the time of the British invasion through to the new wave period in the mid-eighties. I stopped listening to modern music when grunge came on the radio.
I still listen to Classical Rock on Q107 and New Wave on 97.3 FM. I also listen to Classical music on 96.3 FM. The only Xmas music I like is from The Nutcracker.
Talking about adverts from long ago. Are there any that particularly stick in your mind and you can never get rid of?|
"Murray Mints, Murray Mints, the too good to hurry mints."
with a little cartoon boy soldier marching along.
Julie from Windsor: Yes, I remember Radio Caroline. I believe it was the first radio station that I heard adverts.|
I'm trying to remember one or two of them. One was about deodorant. lol.
My memory of Chum was Al Boliska who I believe was on the morning |
show. I also remember how fast they moved from one program to
another. I was used to the CBC of the day who might take 15 seconds
of dead air time between programs. Odd when your memories
Can't comment on the CHUM FM as I wasn't here at the time
but anyone from over the pond remember Radio Caroline that
was sailing just on the edge of the legal broadcast area?
Once in a while they would get shut down by the police boats
only to sail somewhere else and then appear back on the air
I'm dreading Carla walking down the aisle in the dress that Hayley has made for her. I feel a Kleenex moment for sure coming on.
Chris: I forgot to thank you for posting the farewell Becky clip...Sorry
Thank you to all who named the song that brought Haley to tears. I loved Freddie Mercury, Queen was a fabulous and very talented bunch. Even my father who is a hard core country music (none of that new stuff either -- Hank, George, Conway and that era- Loretta, Tammy, Kitty...)has been known to compliment a Queen song. I love music and it has the capacity to take us to other times and places and think of the people and the place just like it was yesterday when it was really so long ago in our past.|
Thank you for indulging my Walter story.
Walter is a rare find -- very fortunate to have picked out this little black cat that day, and that Abby now thinks that he is the bees knees, just like I do.
Hey Jude: I remember Jungle Jay and Larry Solway. Larry could get pretty raunchy |
at times too.
... and I remember listening to Larry Solway each day from 9 to 11 when people would call in about whatever was bugging them. He'd pick a topic of the day and people would call in with their opinions/experiences on the topic! Some of it was funny, and boy, he got hot under the collar with some of them!!LOL What great times those days were!LOL Oh yes, and Jungle Jay Nelson, he was pretty funny!|
Lynn: I'm sorry about your depression too, but it sounds like Walter has sure helped in ways he'll never know! Keep telling us your stories, I love reading about them!LOL
I agree with a lot that's been said this morning: Kylie is being a b.....; Julie never |
listens; the raindrops are better on my head than my cake, etc.
CHUM being mentioned reminded me of the days when I answered the phone |
with "I listen to CHUM" in the hope of winning a prize - but I never did! Pop
music was so much fun back then and so much more cheerful and happy than
the monotone we get today. I listen to an oldies station a lot and if that
means I'm stuck in the past it's OK by me.
I find that this season can be a bit depressing thinking about friends and
family who are gone but we have to remember to enjoy those that are still
here. PBS is fundraising this week but there are great shows on. I caught part
of a Pavorati special, Barbara Striesand, classical music etc. and they have
some Irish music and dance coming up this week. And there is always Corrie
I seems to me that Julie and Brian are not a great couple. They care about each other, but they don't communicate. Brian won't say he doesn't want to foster, but I get the impression Julie wouldn't listen anyway. |
I've already said my least favourite hymn is Amazing Grace. My least favourite popular song is Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head. I'd rather have raindrops on my head than on my cake though. That song bugs me too.
Haili: Agree re: today's music. Makes me an "old grump", perhaps, but to me it's all noise, screeching and the singers squawking up and down the scale as if looking for the right note before they hit it. Plus someone should point out to some of them that the more skin you show does not make you a better singer!|
Creedence ... years ago, a visitor from way-back Australia days insisted on playing religious/inspirational tapes in my car all the way from Vancouver to Calgary because she saw me as a "lost soul" for having lapsed from her Church. I told her we all find our own paths and they don't have to be the same. Then I put on CCR and played it! A lot!
Lynn: I too think Kylie is taking it too far. Is it because she's in the cat-bird seat now; all Platts on her side, in possession of the house, custody of both kids, good job back at the Bistro ... it's almost as if she sees it all as an easy way out with noe blame attached to her. David behaved dreadfully, but if he gets professional help, couldn't there be a chance? He does adore those kids.
Wow! Julian Fellowes loves Corrie? We are in good company! Not "just a soap" then!
The best thing for me in 2013? Waking up each morning! Seriously, though ... waking up each morning, and a great phone plan that lets me stay in affordable contact with friends and family. Oh, and "meeting" all you nice people on here.
|Lynn, re Walter. You are hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.|
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Regarding my post about wonderful little Walter, yes he is but a word to the wise; never paint a room when Walter is present. That lovely streak of white behind the left shoulder extending down the leg is stylish but not really necessary to complete his look. His fur was fine a lovely jet black, with one white whisker.
Nothing goes uninspected when he is awake so my fault for trying to do something like paint when the Inspector is on the job.
I must have said move Walter, get out of that Walter, don't do that Walter, get away from there..., get your nose out of that, don't walk on that, get out from under the plastic drop sheet before you suffocate or I trip over you, get your head out of the can......like painting with a toddler and he is relentless, and to all you silly humans who think put him in another room, like baby from "Dirty dancing" who does not get put in a corner, no one puts Walter on the other side of a closed door, the shrieking becomes unbearable. Spoiled boy, I know.
Lynn, Hayley listened to *Crazy Little Thing...* in an earlier part of that scene. She was very upbeat at that point. It was later while listening to *These were the days..* that she got upset.|
Sorry to hear about your depression. It's a terrible thing to go through and it affects too many people these days. I hope that you feel better soon. Nice that your cats help so much. I've been told that the Christmas season can make it worse for people who suffer from it.
|If anyone is interested, the Digital Spy link above has some info about the Christmas Day Corrie one hour special. No real spoilers in it and it confirms that Hayley and Roy will have an awesome Christmas Day together. She isn't going to die on Christmas Day which was apparently rumoured. It's very encouraging as far as the episode being a good balance of comedy and drama!|
OMG everyone, the music discussion is so interesting. I almost fell off my chair this morning with the mention of CHUM and the mention of McArthur park. I remember standing in the kitchen of the tiny house I grew up in standing in the kitchen hands in dishwater listening to CHUM from the Big Smoke (I grew up in the Niagara Peninsula).|
I could live very happily if I never heard a Fleetwood Mac song on the radio or anywhere as long as I live. Sorry but that Rumors album has been overplayed, and I was not fond of it when it came out way back when. I run for the radio the minute I hear stevie nicks and "here we go again.... Good musicians but grates on my nerves.
Anything by the Beach Boys is too much for me-- apologies to those who love them -- I think that they wrote one tune and changed the words -- again, individually they did some great stuff, (Pet songs in retrospect is a very good, groundbreaking album-- unlistenable to many though) together, I am diving for the radio.
Jazz that is free form - sorry I am not bohemian enough.
and the drummer boy except for the David Bowie/Bing Crosby version
I dislike the "crooners" like Tony Bennett and horror of horrors I cannot and never could stand Frank Sinatra -- creeps me out-- love Elvis though-- never forget the day he died, my mother was yelling my name and I went running outside from my dishwashing (see para 1) for her to tell me "Elvis died" and I remember telling her that from the way she was shrieking I thought she was dying. Every generation has their icons..
Kiley is a cow. The high horse must be crowded with her and Roy up there. She would have and did sell her kid and now she is vicious to david. Not ringing true, anger is one thing but she was not much better and it is only due to him that she is moving ahead in life. I find her hatred over the top.
Not having at least a call from Becky to Haley is taking away from the "reality" of Haley's illness.
I thought Haley was listening to "A Crazy little thing called love" by Queen which made her cry and realize she loves her life, sad. Nice to see Roy trying to just go with the flow for her sake. Yahoo Roy.
Dwight Yokum does a good version of the same song -- fun, fast, easy to dance to .....I give it a 8, Dick, I digress-- many of you know what I am writing about. :-)
Last month of 2013.
What is the best thing to happen to you thus far in 2013?
For us, Abby and I, we have to say that crazy man on 4 legs is wonderful, we vote for Walter as our 2013 best thing. A timid, lonely girl is out from under the bed and has a companion for life. They appear to like one another a great deal and chase me is conducted 2x per day like a job -- abt same time daily --morning and night session.
For me, crippling depression has a grip on me and life is a struggle but it sure is hard to be really depressed when a squeaky meow in standing over you and then purrs in your face and just wants you to feed him and play and be with you. Walter often acts as spokescat, he comes and demands food and whatever, it makes me laugh as she sits silently behind him or at the doorway of the room, like she sent him and waits for the result. Best thing this year, no doubt.
We all like or dislike different characters and the same goes for music! I like |
anything by the Beatles, fiddle music, don't get Macarthur Park, love Simon and
Garfunkle, Creedance, John Denver and don't mind Muskrat Love, hate most stuff
with no melody and can't hear the words that came out after disco when the
music died IMO. My grandsons and nephew who play guitar like 70s music and a
lot of modern singers are doing classics these days. It's all about skimpy
costumes, twirking and flashy videos and to heck with the music these days -
and that's my old fart rant for today!
|Please, those who haven't had their mammograms go have them. Finding anything that might be there and dealing with it early on is much better than not. My husband's sister found her's too late and suffered more than necessary ( 60 yrs. old). I had a bad history so checked every year, then every 6 mos. after another relative was diagnosed, so they caught mine fairly early. That was 10 yrs. ago now and as far as I know, I'm still o.k. The songs/s I don't like are " Hey Jude" as my brother played it too often and " Lola".|
|As far as least fav songs go I think Muskrat Love must be in my top ten! I too do not like PM's Christmas Time song at all!|
Thank you, Hey Jude and Mark! Hey Jude, thank you for your kind words. |
Vera, I'm so proud of you for knowing and appreciating Natalie MacMaster!
|Terry: Yep, we'd better!|
KLS, I share your pain about M$ peripherals. I ♥ Logitech. ☺
Joanne - O.K., too much info! I guess we should cut it off there (the subject that is :-) The only reason we'll get away with those posts is because Sheila will be watching curling all day.:-)|
Chris - You mean now we've got to go through years of Mark spelling it Cal? Aaaargh! :-(
|Gail: I hear ya!LOL|
|Terry: No, indeed, and if what was explained by "Dr. Temperance Brennan" on a recent episode of "Bones" is accurate, it's all there, anyway - just in different form!|
kls, they don't make bands like Queen anymore. What band could go through those kind of changes and remain as incredible as they did? None that I know of that are on the charts today. |
Judy, yes, I remember them playing it on CHUM. OMG, we all loved CHUM didn't we! Those WERE the days! Going to pick up your CHUM chart every Saturday was a ritual! Geez, I feel OLD.
RE: These Are the Days of Our Lives. That was the last song Mercury recorded and if you watch the video closely, you can see how terribly ill he was. I thought it was a rather appropriate choice considering Hayley's condition. |
Queen has quite the history - started as a blues based hard rock group then followed the trend to glam rock and transformed again when they needed to. However, they were really a progressive rock group like Pink Floyd and Moody Blues in that they mixed their own instrumentation with full orchestral backing. The remaining members of the group still perform as Queen but any replacement vocalist just cannot meet Mercury's vocal ability.
Finally getting a proper keyboard so I will actually be able to type instead of fumbling. WTF was Microsoft thinking when they made the base model ergonomic keyboard with smaller keys and super low profile keys. Further more, the danged fool who decided to make the touch keys (f and j) with touch bumps that you cannot feel should be shot at dawn??
|Gail: YES! MacArthur Park - I also loved that song when it came out in 1968 - amazing song and in my mind everything was kind of going in slow motion! CHUM radio played it endlessly for weeks, if not months at the time!|
SPOILER: Another new character is due to arrive on the Street. He is Gary's ex-army pal Kal. ☺
|Julie, I absolutely adore the song MacArthur Park! I'm glad you mentioned it. It has always amazed me with it's vivid lyrics and imagery. I can picture that cake icing just melting away in the rain and he'll never have that recipe again. Isn't it from a musical? I forget which but I know that Richard Harris the actor, sang it and a lot of people did covers of it over the years. I must google it and find out more!|
Diane said the Queen song playing while Hayley broke down about not wanting to leave Roy was *These Are the Days of Our Lives* . I wasn't familiar with that one, but listened on youtube and the lyrics are very appropriate for them for sure! Queen was an awesome band in their day, and Freddy has to have had one of the best voices ever to grace vinyl or polycarbonate! |
Mark, I agree, Becky should understand sibling rivalry and the need for revenge against a sibling and should have a bit more empathy with David under the circumstances, considering her own part in it all! Not that I agree with what David did to Nick because he could have handled it much differently and if he had, he might be being treated like a king right now by both Nick, Kylie, and the rest of the Platt clan because he would look like the better person who was wronged by his brother and his wife!
"Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
and I'll never have that recipe again..."|
Has to be the nastiest song ever...AArgghh...
My favorite songs for a memorial would be...|
"In your Keeping" Jann Arden (sad, but so lovely)
"For Good" from 'Wicked' (the stage play soundtrack)
And anything from Natalie McMaster ♥....
Monique, I am with you...any 'fiddle' music for me!
(I especially love 'Fiddle e bow') I also love the pipes....
I am still thinking about my least faves, hmmmm....
There's some some changes to ITV's Coronation Street schedule this week for those following the current UK episodes.
Monday, 2 December - one episode at 7.30 pm (UK time).
Tuesday, 3 December - one episode at 8.00 pm.
Wednesday, 4 December - an hour long episode at 7.30 pm.
Friday, 6 December - two episodes as normal at 7.30 pm and 8.30 pm.
|Joanne - At last Hayley didn't go half-cocked! :-)|
|Ooops, sorry, I`ve just seen Diane`s mention of Crazy Little Thing Called Love. Wow, I was way off!LOL|
Re: Queen: was it Bohemian Rhapsody? I know last week I heard Queen too in the background, but cannot be sure what it was. I'm going with BH. |
Gail: Yes, I SO agree with you regarding Lennon and McCartney, and yes, it does sound like a song that was just written within minutes. I always felt it was mediocre too, but that's just me!LOL Together they were def magic, and now my son, who is 19, is really appreciating their music! I think with Sweet Home Alabama (the original, by the Allman Brothers Band I think), it just reminds me of the summers I used to have while in my 20's!LOL
Monique: My bad! I'm sorry, I forgot to wish you a Happy Birthday yesterday! All the best to you and I hope you find that perfect job this year sweetie!
The distance between Roy and Hayley is wider than it ever has been. Roy being Roy, has done research in to similar situations and the effects the drugs can have and it only enforces his argument. Hayley is trying to cope with Jane's funeral and having this on top of it all isn't helping. Roy discovers later, though, that while Jane planned her own funeral, her husband thought it wasn't really what he would have done to send her off but lied and said to Jane it sounded perfect. He also maintained a lie for years, going to church and taking up religion for her sake because he loved her so much. That's given Roy a lot more to think about than hard facts. And he resolves to lie that her words and all that they've seen at the funeral have convinced him. |
Hayley's relieved. Is he doing the right thing? I think so. I think he does understand a bit of where she's coming from but he can't really agree to lose one minute with her but he can barely look at her or be in the room while he's lying because Roy is honest to a fault. But Anna knows he's done the right thing. Why spend the rest of what time they have arguing. Make the days the best he can for her and maybe she'll want as many of them as she can.
And Hayley is trying to listen to classical music to hear what it is instead of what it isn't. Who would have expected Roy to come over all rock and roll in the midst of an orchestra? I'm with Hayley, it didn't really work for me and apparently her passion is glam rock. Queen might very well be Glam in their early days but "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" isn't glam rock in the least. "Those Were the Days of our Lives" was more prophetic for the two of them, but still not glam.
Hayley made us all cry when she broke down. Roy's determined to make Hayley's final months the best for her that he can in spite of his own doubts. Good boy. Why is Hayley worried about making Carla's wedding dress? I seem to recall she's made wedding gear before. I suppose Carla's standards would be pretty high. I would have thought Carla would have told Hayley what she wanted for a wedding dress or showed her the photo of the one she wanted and couldn't get. Letting Hayley, the fashion maven (not) of Weatherfield design her dress was bound to cause ructions with stylish Carla. Carla saved it though, by taking one or two of the designs, combining them and modifying them. Result! Too funny watching Roy scutter about getting under Hayley and Carla's feet, including blowing up a rubber glove! HA!
Grace's bullying continues and now Simon has to take the brunt of it. He is ridiculed into shoplifting from Dev's but though he gets away, Dev has told Peter and Leanne. Now what? Carla mentions how good Tina was with Simon and it's given Peter an idea. Hire Tina for a part time sitter. Hmm. Sounds like a good gig. Owen is now sure that the girls have had some involvement in Simon's escapades but Anna won't hear of it.
Julie looked wonderful in that bright orange coat and hat. She's got blinders on and can't see that Brian is rather reluctant about the fostering. And it turns out he's looked into another job and he's got a job interview for a museum director in Wales. So Marcus is taking Ken's place as Brian's confidant. Will Brian tell Julie the truth? Will he heck. Where would be the fun and drama in that? Besides, we all know that with Julie you can't always get a word in when she's over enthusiastic about something. He couldn't bear to let her down.
Tina is now a lifesaver, having offered to walk Simon to school because Peter and Carla were both late. I still can't understand why all these Bessie Street kids have to be ushered to and from school when it's only around the corner and they are, many of them, 8 to 10 years old. There are crossing guards to get them across the roads. Faye and Grace are now 11 and in the next level of school and they are allowed to go on their own now. Finally. I think they were even coming and going on their own in their last year at Bessie St. too because I don't remember Anna having to run off and pick Faye up at school unless Katy always did it. Peter is worried about Simon but Carla is more worried about the wedding. She still hasn't got a dress. Peter thinks second hand will save them money. That's not Carla's gig. She ends up running around looking for dresses and still can't find something. Is that such a good idea? So Tina's well and truly dumped and thoroughly single now. I never felt he was the love of her life, anyway. With Peter coming to her defence, there seems to be a new warmth there. As a veteran soap watcher, I can clearly see where this is going. And Peter has roving eye genes.
Speaking of which, Katy seems to be in the character closet these days. Mourning Ryan's departure perhaps? Izzy hasn't been seen either and we barely get a glimpse of Gary. Dev had a look at his tummy in a shop window. Are we in for a Get Fit storyline? Oh look. Izzy is out of the character closet. So is Marcus. Not seen either of them for yonks.
Kylie's still bitcing at Tina who's been bitching at David for freeloading. Kylie then bitches at David and maybe that finally gets through. No, I guess not. Straight to the pub for a vodka or four. Fish and houseguests stink after three days. Seems like David has overstayed his welcome. David really is pushing the envelope. Meanwhile, Tina has finally realized that Tommy isn't coming back. He already said so, didn't he? So why she thought he might change his mind, oh well... wishful thinking I guess. He's told her it's because she puts everyone else first. I would think being unselfish is a good thing but really, i guess he means she never puts him first. She's chucked David out. a bit too little too late unfortunately.
Kylie gave David a hard time over the money he took out of the account and she's not letting him see the kids. He could probably make a good case for that but he can't afford a lawyer anyway. I think Audrey is starting to soften and she left David mind Max for a bit. They don't think Kylie will find out. Didn't have to worry about keeping a 6 or 7 year old from telling tales, Kylie got off work early and everyone was busted.
David's on the outside looking in, lurking around corners. One small part of me does feel sorry for him but he did bring it on himself. He was kind to Tina in the cafe. She was a bit rougher on him than needed, I think. He really is the pariah around the Street these days. He wasn't able to convince Tina to take him back in. Not surprised he went and dove into a bottle and then got aggressive with Peter who just walked away. It nearly broke Gail's heart to see her son in such a mess.
Nick's got no sympathy, as you might expect, and neither does Kylie. Can't blame him for getting upset that Gail is feeling bad for David. Audrey's sympathies are lining up with Gail's. It was inevitable that Audrey be persuaded to take him in after Kylie tore a strip off him and forbad him to come anywhere near ever again. Finally, Gail admits that what David went through at Richard's hands made an impact. Now whose fault is it that child never got councilling? Too right she needs to take on some of the guilt.
Can we possibly hate this incarnation of Todd any more? Oh yes, I'm sure there are great heights to come to his disdain. He was a snotty stuckup tosser the last time he visited so he's only graduated into utter w@3kery now, not a great leap. Why bring a character back if you're going to change their personality completely? If they don't soften him and give him his comeuppance soon, he will end up working for Chesney at the kebab shop and then catching the next cab out of Weatherfield, with all of us making sure the door hits him on the arse on the way out. Todd was able to switch on and get down to business easily. It's not rocket science or brain surgery. He's a sarcastic tosser. Numpty.
Todd never stops using people does he? Eileen for cash, Lloyd for an advance on his wages (fail), Sean for an escort on a night out and someone to iron his shirt. He's also sarcastic. That whole business about the last biscuit was stupid and I think he was winding them up on purpose. He even managed to nick a customer and a cab and keep the cash and he managed to talk them all around, silver tongued devil. The last biscuit, the last cab, this is becoming a habit.
I laughed at Todd grabbing the airport run and having a fistful of cash. I've taken a mini cab from Salford to the Manchester airport lots of times and the most I've ever paid was about 20- 25 pounds plus a few quid for a tip. Todd's customer had to be a fairly local customer or they'd have called a different company and Weatherfield is supposed to stand in for Salford.
Lines of the Week
Hayley "It's vortex all the way from now on"
Leanne "I hope you girls didn't put him up to this" (she didn't say what) Faye "no, we didn't"
Hayley listening to classical music "You can't dance to it and it makes me think of adverts"
Sean "Why did the drunken, self pitying miseryguts cross the road?"
David "I hate me"
Anna "I'm sure you'll get it right Roy. You normally do" (meaning, more than Holladaise sauce)
Eileen "Never eat the last one (biscuit) because the resentment will fester for years" Todd "And here's me thinking this job will be a dawdle"
Tina "Excuse me while I die of boredom"
Tina to Rita "All I do is bring you my latest disaster"
Carla "I've just asked a terminally ill woman with no sense of style to design my wedding dress"
Marcus "There's one thing I've learned about women. They always find out about the truth. I don't know how. But they do!" (too right!)
Peter "I'm the patron saint of drunks and winos"
Gail "How did the lad to cried for his rabbit get to this"
Terry: So true, so true! :-) (sorry, can't do clever emoticons, so am stuck in a time warp of oldies).|
I agree that Kylie should think back to her own "sins", but by the same token, David pulled some evil stunts, so perhaps each cancels out the other? I'm just tired of all the bickering, shouting, stamping out of rooms, going off half-cocked without listening to an explanation, not giving an explanation, and plot lines dragging on and on and on ... get it over and get over it!
Mark: I figure if my sons can't find the money to bury me out of whatever I might leave behind, I'll just sit around and haunt them! There are three of them and only one of me ... shouldn't be too difficult!
TerryM: it's only safe to make fun of the Irish and Scots these days. Anyone |
else would be politically incorrect. They make fun of each other all the time,
or at least they did in my family.
Mark: I have to admit that the actor who plays David was very touching in
Friday's closing scene when Audrey showed him the picture Max drew, and
Kylie is a hypocrite when you consider all the nasty things she'd done in the
past, including selling her own son and having sex with her brother-in-law
(fornicating as you'd say).
Joanne - Q. What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?|
A. One less drinker at the wake! :-)
Happy Birthday Monique !|
Hi Gail, the Corrie TV character I like the most is David Platt.
I can't stand Steve, Jason, Tyrone and Dev.
With whom I'd like to hang out if I visited a Corrie set: Owen as someone once wrote he's very nice to visitors.
I'd like to meet on the set: David, Brian, Owen, Tyrone, Steve and Sean and of course Karl the Man but not Dev and Jason.
Thanks for the answers: C, Julie, Haili.
Julie I too am slow to buy things; I still haven't found the microwave oven I want yet.
Haili to answer your question, I didn't go shopping on Black Friday because I'm against racist policies that only encourage one race to go shopping.
Thank you Frank - LOL.
I think Kylie is a hypocrite for judging David for his vendetta against Nick.
Kylie also hated Becky for most of the show,
therefore she should understand
David's minor sibling rivalry.
Angie, I'd like to see Tina with flat shiny hair parted to one side look.
No Curls for Tina!
And get rid of those silly earrings!
Instead of hoping your family will bury you,
go and get prepaid funeral arrangements.
The purchase cost will be locked in against inflation in Ontario
and it won't be an emotional - financial burden on your family.
My worst songs ever would be any rap - but that hardly counts as a song since |
it's mostly just yapping. That's the Way (ho ho) I Like It is the worst I can think of
for now but I'll Be Home for Christmas (so sad and depressing) and The Little
Drummer Boy (so over-used) really bug me at this time of year.
That's good news about a new mechanic coming. Let's hope he's good looking. I
wonder who the new waitress will be.
|Angie, I tried to make out what the Queen song was that you asked about but I didn't recognize it. She said Freddy was already dying when he wrote it, so obviously it's one of their later ones. I'm just glad it wasn't * Who Wants to Live Forever*! which is one of my favourite Queen songs. I love *Crazy Little Thing Called Love* which they played in an earlier scene.|
|Hey Jude LOL I just feel it's not up to the level of excellence that PM is capable of. It sounds like a throw-away song he just wrote on a whim and didn't put much effort into. Mind you, some of the Beatle's classic songs that PM helped write were written in minutes on a whim too! But the team of Lennon and McCartney together were magic. I don't think either of them was as good at song writing without the other part of the team. They were good, but not AS good. Just my opinion of course! Phil's band plays Sweet Home Alabama, it's always on their set list because it is SO popular and the dance floor is full when they play it but I have always hated it! Phil says people love it probably because it's high energy and when they've been drinking it appeals to them LOL (he doesn't like it either)|
Could someone tell what the name of the Queen song was playing in the background when Haley was crying that she did not want to die?|
I wish someone would give beautiful Tina a new hairdo, everytime I look at her, it looks as though she just walked off the mouseketeer club set. She has lovely long hair lets see it more often, (I don't care if her updo is in style, it sucks) Can I say that?
|Gail: Strangely, I agree with you about PM's Christmas song, I've never liked it either! But I do love Sweet Home Alabama!LOL|
SPOILERS: A new waitress has been hired for the Bistro, and a new mechanic has been hired to work in Kevin Webster's garage. We've seen the waitress before, but not the mechanic.
I absolutely HATE the song Sweet Home Alabama. That comes immediately to mind. I also hate Paul McCartney's Christmas song *Simply Havin' a Wonderful Christmastime* It's the worst song he's ever written or sung, and he should be ashamed of it IMO LOL I know most PM fans probably love it so I expect to hear that from you Hey Jude LOL|
Check out this link about Tina's exit storyline! It contains spoilers for those who don't want to know anything about her *raunchy exit and sexy scenes with Chris Gascoyne/Peter*!
Leah: They are using Donna Summer's "Hot stuff" song on, I think it is a pizza commercial. I hated that song then and I still absolutely hate it now!LOL|
I don't have a favourite song - I love so many songs it would be impossible for me to list "a favourite". I do like to hear the bagpipes and I always liked Paul McCartney singing Mull of Kintyre and the pipes being played for that one.
|For me it will definitely be something from Cape Breton. I have a list of some of my favorite Cape Breton fiddle tunes that I would like played as well as Cape Breton songs such as Rita MacNeil's Home I'll Be and Raylene Rankin's We Rise Again. In Cape Breton, at least in the community I know the most people, live fiddle music is played at the funeral and sometimes there is a piper at the graveside. In fact, if everything goes right, I hope my funeral will be in Cape Breton.|
|Just for laughs. Name your 5 least favourite songs of all time. In order to count, these songs have to drive you absolutely crazy and cause you to hit mute or change the radio station.|
Many people find Amazing Grace comforting but I find it depressing. I'd prefer |
Bridge Over Troubled Water and other Simon and Garfunkle songs, also Rita
McNeil's Flying On Her Own.
Everything I see or read lately has someone with cancer or doing things on their
bucket list. This can get depressing at this most depressing time of the year -
for me anyway. Most of the deaths in our family happened in winter. It would be
nice if things lightened up a bit on Corrie.
|Daphne, sorry, I haven't heard Amazing Grace sung to the tune of The House of the Rising Sun. To poke fun of the hymn, I sometimes sing it to the tune of Ilkley Moor Bar Tat. It scans surprisingly well and it's quick.|
|Joanne, I too love bagpipes for Celtic and military music. It's the combination of Amazing Grace and bagpipes I can't stand. IMO they just don't work together.|
|Leah - Have you heard the Blind Boys of Alabama sing Amazing Grace to the tune of The House of the Rising Sun. It's still slow of course but it's different:-)|
|My family knows that I'd like a Viking funeral and an Irish Wake. Cremation will take care of the first, and a great big party will do for the second. Music? Dionne Warwick's "No Extravagent Gestures", "Memory" from "Cats", and anything from Kris Kristofferson, preferably of his earlier rebellion years which always said what I was thinking! NOT "Amazing Grace" which has been done to death (Oops! Sorry!) and doesn't reflect my thoughts, but I would like the pipes ... I love bagpipes. So that would be a touch of Viking, a wee bit of Irish and something of the Scots, too.|
I've told my family I want 2 things at my funeral - I want to
be piped in (like they do for curling competitions) complete
with the bagpipe music. My daughter thinks the family should
follow carrying signs with their names on them. I also want
"I'm coming up so you better get this party started" by Pink.
I suspect my family hopes I come to my senses before the event
|Lynn, your idea certainly brought back memories. My mother was a church organist who had definite thoughts on hymns for her funeral. She liked quick, lively hymns. She DETESTED slow, draggy hymns like Amazing Grace, Nearer My God to Thee, and What a Friend We have in Jesus. When the minister chose one of the latter for a service, she'd play it as fast as she could and the congregation had to hurry to keep up. She expressly forbad any of the slow hymns mentioned to be played at her funeral. As a result, her funeral was rather a light, rousing event. I've acquired her taste. If you want to torture me, tie me down and play Amazing Grace the way it's usually played. For and extra twist of the rack, play it on bagpipes.|
Haley's music night with Roy has me thinking about a topic often in the back of my mind. I know that when my father passes away it will be a travesty to not have the sounds of Hank Williams SR in the background. |
When your friends are meeting to toast you and shed a tear and have a laugh, what song or songs would you like them to be listening to, that song that means something to you?
I have a list that I will have to work on to make manageable. IMHO music does so much for us and like Haley said, like a visit from an old friend.
Personally, one of my top songs that reflects my sense of humour and life is by Warren Zevon, Life 'll kill ya.
Indeed it will.
*** OFF TOPIC ***|
For those who want to give, or get for themselves, HMV has a large selection of Downton Abbey gifts.
|Thank you for the nice messages and good wishes, everyone! I just got back home from what was a wonderful day and evening with friends and music.|
|Happy Birthday Monique, and good luck finding that perfect job. I hope the year ahead is a great one for you.|
|Happy Birthday, Monique, and a ton of good wishes for the year ahead.|
|Thanks Chris! I had almost forgotten about Return to Downton Abbey tomorrow night!|
I seem to remember different loose ends through the years where they start a |
story line and then it disappears. Maybe it's because actors suddenly leave and
they need filler until they come up with something else. A few actors left fairly
quickly in the past few months.
|I agree with the comments about the Audrey storyline. I thought it would have progressed into something, not just fade away.|
|Happy Birthday Monique!|
|Happy Birthday Monique!|
OFF TOPIC - Downton Abbey: Don't forget "Return to Downton Abbey" on PBS - Sunday, December 1st at 9:00 PM ET.
Quote: This program looks back at the first three seasons of DOWNTON ABBEY and looks ahead to the upcoming fourth season of the series. Susan Sarandon hosts. Duration: 01:28:37
Only 36 more sleeps 'til Downton Abbey Season 4 begins. ☺
|Wishing you a very Happy Birthday Monique. Hope you are spoiled today.|
Chris and Vera, thank you so much for your good wishes!|
|*~*~Happy Birthday Monique ☺ Have a wonderful day‼~*~*|
|Terry: I think it's kind of sloppy to have left us hanging about that. I don't recall anything more about Audrey's roof after she nearly tripped over Ozzie at Maria and Marcus' flat. I remember Owen telling Audrey there would have to be major renos because of the roof and mould in her walls, but then the whole storyline there just disappeared. I thought there was going to be way more about it than there was.|
Happy Birthday, Monique.
I thought Gail looked nice last night in that violet sweater and the reddish hair
colour. Kylie is very spiteful to David and I wonder if she has feelings for Nick
that will come back in the future. She was nasty when she first came to Corrie
and seems to have gone back to her old ways. I understand why she's angry but
she could be more civilized about it. Taking all David's money was just mean.
Thanks for that Farewell to Becky video, Chris. Here is a link to an article I found explaining that Becky can't come back for Hayley's funeral because she's busy filming Mr. Selfridge. She said she would have loved to come back. That's too bad. Still, they should at least mention her and/or have Hayley talk to her on the phone.|
In tonight's episode (Friday-Canada) Audrey told David he could come and live with her. Earlier, there has been discussion on here regarding the storyline of Owen fixing the roof at Grasmere Drive. Obviously the roof has been repaired and that storyline seems to have gone nowhere. Did anyone catch any reference on the show indicating when the work was finished or when Audrey moved out of Maria and Marcus' flat and back home? I didn't, but then I guess there is no law that they have to tell us. I suppose we know the work is finished now. But a strange storyline imo.
|Chris - The August 2005 beggar was considered to be Becky, however the January 2005 shoplifter was considered to be a different character, although both were played by Amanda Tyrell and were quite similar. Seems a little odd, but I remember asking Granada about it once Katherine Kelly's Becky character became a regular.|
|One word about Brian. Coward!!!|
For those of us in SW Ontario - the link above is for info on
the Toronto stop of the Owen & Gary "Men at Work" tour coming
in the spring to Ontario. These two were in the east earlier
this year, and I heard great things about their show. Even if
(or maybe especially if) Owen isn't a character you enjoy, the
actor is apparently wonderful in person. There's a show in
Toronto, one in London, and possibly more locations to be
Tickets are on sale now for London, going on sale Wednesday for Toronto. Save up your pennies, go meet some Corrie stars.
TerryM, thanks for the information about Becky's earlier incarnation. Amanda Tyrell's first appearance as Becky was as a shoplifter on 26 January 2005. In the August episode, Becky was a street beggar. Tyrell had only a couple of other film roles and there's not much information about her available.
Hey Jude and Frank, you're both welcome. I too miss Becky and deep down Mark does as well. ☺
OFF TOPIC: Selby yes, I think there's a good chance we'll see Tudor Monastery Farm on TVO.
The actress who played Becky has said she's too busy to come back to Corrie. |
She was in Mr. Selfridge and is now pregnant. I think Hailey should pretend to
talk to Becky on the phone and Becky should have some good reason for not
TerryM: I guess I can quit worrying about David sleeping on the street now and I
hope Audrey can talk some sense into him. Maybe she'll give him his job back.
Nick isn't the nice easy going guy he used to be and is going to be hard to live
|Chris- Everything Hey Jude said. Thank you so much! Always loved my "BECKS" Always will! Steve you were an idiot.|
Chris from Ontario; I got about the same response from TVO. I assume |
that means they are or will be looking into the Tudor show.
Do you ( or anybody) know what the building is behind the Viaduct.
Looks like it has a peaked roof --several stories high. I assume it won't
appear in too many of the real shows.
|Here's a bit of trivia about Becky that I'll bet not many of you know: She was first played by Amanda Tyrell on Aug 24 2005 for one episode, before Katherine Kelly took over the role permanently on Feb 5 2006.|
Off topic: I've used the Ultimate Cloth, too, and it is excellent. I bought my first lot from the Shopping Channel, but a friend Googled it after I'd shared mine with her, and found the firm is in Burlington, Ontario, at Ultimate Cloth Canada Inc, phone 905-637-7740 or 1-888-609-7740. She got a two (packets) for one on sale when she ordered.|
Saw the bridal photo of Carla ... how many weddings, and she still wants to looke like a first-time bride?
|Chris: Thanks for the link to the picture of Katherine Kelly. She looks fabulous and I'm happy for her she's going to be a Mom. I certainly wouldn't expect her to return to Corrie right now, but I'd love to see her again some time down the road, she was one of my favorite characters.|
Julie, here's a link to Farewell Becky on YouTube.
Quote: Sally Lindsay narrates a tribute to Coronation Street's feisty character Becky McDonald, played by Katherine Kelly. The program features interviews with members of the cast, including Simon Gregson (Steve McDonald) and Kate Ford (Tracy Barlow), and charts Becky's journey from her first appearance in a police station through her many triumphs and traumas, and ends with her emotional send-off on the show.
As far as I know, Becky will not return to the Street for Hayley's storyline. No reason has been given, but Katherine is currently with child.
Monique/Lynn: I think it would be a travesty if they don't
have Becky return at some point for Roy and Hayles and
hopefully not just for the funeral. I've just watched Farewell
Becky on you tube and really miss her character on the
cobbles.I wonder if Chris or Terry M could post that link here
...or anyone else that know's what they are doing.|
Tudor Monastery Farm is wonderful and I'm sure that PBS or TVO will pick it up, meanwhile it is on You tube also.
|I saw 2 DVDs of Corrie at Target from the late 60's to the early 70's. The other DVD was from the mid to late 70's. I didn't buy them though.|
I have had good luck with deja vu and tvland (it is something else now) with suggestions. When they first came on the air I asked for Barney Miller and they got back to me and was happy for my suggestion. And shortly thereafter, we had Barney Miller.
I am sure that I was not the only one asking for it, and was so pleased when I saw Fish, Wojo, Harris et al again. It comes and goes from the line up ever since. And I still watch them and laugh.
Vision might be a good one to take suggestions too.
OFF TOPIC: Selby, I wrote to TVO last night requesting Tudor Monastery Farm. Today I received a reply from Michelle from Customer Relations. Quote: Thank you for contacting TVO. Tudor Monastery Farm is not on our upcoming schedule, but it certainly sounds like a program that TVO might air. I will share your suggestion with our programming department. ☺
|Just came back from Best Buy, Canadian Tire, and Chapters - I was in and out of each store in about 20 minutes - no line-ups at all, all's calm here in my little corner of the world!LOL|
Monique: you are right re. David. I don't know why I feel sorry for him. He's a bit |
like Jekyll and Hyde and has a good side too. The only one who seems
completely all bad is Tracy and we never see anything good about her.
Lynn: I have some old Hichcock movies on DVD including some early ones.
Maybe I'll watch one on the weekend. There isn't much on TV these days unless
you get those extra channels. I just have enhanced basic. For some reason, I
enjoy the old movies better than a lot of the new ones and watched Annie Hall
again last weekend.
Lynn, I am also not a marketer's dream. I hate shopping so much that I'm immune to anything they come up with. |
I probably would feel sorry for David right now except that I can't when I remember the vicious things he said to Nick in the hospital. He said that he was glad Nick had brain damage and he hoped that Nick would struggle with tying his shoelaces and reading cereal boxes. He said he was glad that he came out on top. Well I just can't get past this and I'm so glad he didn't come out on top.
Good question Frank. Like others, I could compile a list of those I would never want to live with; there are many, but if I have to make a choice, Gail would get on my last nerve and I may not be able to be held responsible for the result. That should keep David and the rest of her family out of the picture too, fingers crossed :-).|
I went out today for regular grocery shopping and errands and the stores were not too bad at all here in Halifax, but I avoid the malls and major shopping areas. I find this whole "Black Friday" hysteria a bit much but I have never been a marketers dream when it comes to consuming.
Happy Thanksgiving to all those in the USA-- mmmmm turkey. And to the Hitchcock fans, there is a marathon on AMC-- Rear Window, Psycho, The Birds, his big movies none of his old or lesser known British or American pictures.
Monique, you make a very good point about Becky. It would be nice even to have a phone call now and then written in the plot with her checking on Haley.
Thank you Joanne & Daphne, we had a lovely Turkey Day! ☺|
Hailey, I'm with you...I do not go out on this crazy Black Friday shopping day, some people are nuts out there! : |
|Haili - Don't worry, David will have somewhere to go soon.|
JeanF: I'm done shopping and I too get gift cards for the girls on the list and buy |
things on sale in Jan. for the guys usually. Of course the birthdays start again in
Jan. but at least the stores are quiet then. When I was young I loved the
excitement of shopping close to Christmas but now I hate crowds and line ups.
I kind of feel sorry for David these days, though I know he had it coming. Kylie is
really horrible to him and it's time he stood up for himself. He should have a
right to see the kids. I know he's a sociopath or psycho or something but he was
good with the kids.
Manchester Evening News has a video tour of the new Coronation Street exterior set. Also, there's a photo gallery showing the cast opening up the new Street.
The main difference are: 1. Coronation Street is now normal width; 2. Rosamund Street is now built-out; and 3. the Rovers Return now has two windows on the upper floor. ☺
Perhaps we'll see more scenes or new characters living on Rosamund Street. The only event of note that I can recall is that Rosie Webster was born on Rosamund Street.
|Hailie, I am not only not going shopping today I am not even driving down to the Peace Bridge to view the line-up of cars who are going to shop in Buffalo! I have done all my shopping earlier and plan to give money to my kids this year except for a few small things which I already have purchased.|
Mark: I like to shop alone but wouldn't mind meeting Rita for lunch after. I'll bet |
she could tell some great stories. Shopping is one of those activities where it's
best to split up unless you need a second opinion on a special dress .
Today is Black Friday. How many are going shopping? I think it might be a good
day for me to stay home.
Chris: Thank you for posting the behind the scenes. Never seen |
it before and it was very interesting.
Frank, thanks for the compliment. I don't feel I have a doctorate in Corrie, but I do like to search the Wide-Eyed-Web for Corrie info. Also, I subscribe to G-mail alerts for Coronation Street. Corrie news reports from around the world are posted as they happen to my eMail account. IMO, it's TerryM who has a doctorate degree in Corrie. Anyway, thanks for the compliment. ☺
|Jan&Leah I think Tracy Would be the least intrusive of all the Corrie house guests. She would simply pawn Amy off on you,while she went off to the bars picking up various men. Mark,nobody makes me laugh like you! Terry M-Sunderland is fortunate to have such a magnificent fan. Chris;you must have a doctorate degree in Corriefacation. For anyone who watched "Corrie Crazy" Diane/Tvor expressed it best;"Coronation Street People;Are The Best People."|
Yesterday, I posted a screen capture of a BLOOPER showing Kylie appearing to enter the salon from the Rovers and I remembered that I had seen some "Behind the Scenes" videos. Here they are:
In the first YouTube "Behind the Scenes" video, Charlene from BFSB Radio goes behind the scenes on the exterior Street set.
In the second video, Charlene visits the the interior sets showing the sets adjacent to each other. The sets are so close to each other, I wonder that it doesn't happen more often.
I could listen to Charlene all day long! ☺
|Never heard of Robin Askwith. so he's going to be on Corrie soon? Sure looks a lot like Mick Jagger to me!LOL|
Mark: I'd like to go shopping with Roy. By the time I'd |
decided to buy something, we'd have a cuppa and then I would
not really feel the need to buy it anymore.Repeat all day long
and my bank account would be thanking me.
In his younger day's, I think Robin was going for the Mick Jagger look.
|Chris, the one in leather jacket, pink shirt and skinny jeans. The other one too now that you ask!|
Which one? ☺
|All I can say after seeing that picture of Robin Askwith is *yikes*.|
SPOILER: Yesterday, I asked: "I wonder how many new characters will be introduced?"
Well it's started, although I don't know whether it's a short-or-long-term character. Friday's Express has the story.
Off topic . . .|
Thanks to Alec from Toronto. I saw your message about the Ultimate Cloths and decided to order them from the Shopping Channel. They really work well. So far I have cleaned my stainless steel appliances and glass shower door. I am very impressed. It's great to clean with just water.
|Mark, which of the following do you look most like? Brian, Jason, Tyrone, Dev, Owen, David, Steve or Sean? Just curious! ;)|
|Hi Frank, the character I'd least like to spend two weeks with is Gloria or Leanne, they both drip condecension.|
I'd like to go shopping with Kylie. Might even have a laugh. ☺
With whom would you like to go shopping?|
I'd like to go shopping with Peter; I need a make-over LOL!
|Chris: Thanks. I forgot Peter.|
That's a good point Monique. You would think Hayley and Roy would at least mention Becky but I don't believe she's been mentioned by either of them since their emotional good bye. Under the circumstances, wouldn't Hayley want to see Becky one last time and ask her to stay in touch with Roy? Becky hasn't been doing a good job of that so far, unless we're supposed to believe that she has been. I don't believe that Becky would handle any of this very well as she tends to get emotionally charged very easily as we have seen her do many times when something goes wrong on her. |
I was just thinking that a month from today it will be almost New Year's Eve. I'm not even ready for Christmas yet!
SPOILERS: Joanne and Haili - the seven characters known to be leaving the show are Brian, St Ella, Gloria, Hayley, Peter, Marcus and Tina. I think Brian leaves later this year. I don't think it's been announced when Hayley actually leaves, but Julie Hesmondhalgh has filmed her final episode. And, the cast had a leaving party for her.
Haili, I agree Peter and Tina don't look like they could make a couple, especially when Peter's wedding to Carla is just weeks away. Maybe it's the start of Tina's exit storyline. Tina leaves in April, but Peter will be on our screens into October, I believe.
Frank, the character I would least like as a roommate for even one night would be Les Battersby. If it's a current character, that would be David. He would drive me nuts - enough, to try to finish the job Charley Stubbs left incomplete.
OFF TOPIC: Selby yes, the BBC has aired two or three episodes of Tudor Monastery Farm already. Alex Langlands is not in this series; he's been replaced with Tom Pinfold. I hope TVO pick-up the series; good idea about contacting them.
|Frank, definitely couldn't stand Tracy for a second. Couldn't stand Deirdre, either, not because I don't like her as a character but because she'd smoke and not care that it bothered me.|
|Haili: Neither would I!LOL I would be perfectly happy living on my own!LOL|
Pearl: maybe Carla should put a little more effort into finding a decent man |
before it ever gets to the wedding stage. She seems to go for the ones that
are married or with someone else and I remember how she seemed to enjoy
hurting Maria when Maria was with Liam. What goes around comes around
and if Peter cheated with her he'll cheat on her IMO. He already looks bored
Mark: Tina was very dark on my TV last night - more brown than orange. Her
colour changes from one night to another.
Who I wouldn't want as a room mate: Tracy, Todd, David, Mary, Norris. It
could get to be a fairly long list! I just don't want a room mate.
Speaking of Becky, it would be realistic if someone at least mentioned telling her about Hayley's condition or asked if she was aware of it. She was very close to and just loved "Royston" and "Hales" to bits. Even if it's not possible to have the actress back for a few episodes, they should at least mention her.|
Pearl, that was a very witty and intelligent comment you made about people's efforts for their wedding plans vs. their marriages!
|Mark: LMAO!! Thanks! I needed that!LOL|
Frank that would be Becky because she smokes and Kylie because she's a hypocrite.|
I'd like to have Carl the Man and David as my roomates for a week maximum.
I would teach them how to be real men instead of doormats.
Chris from Ontario: The current English Farm show (2013) which is still |
being taped I believe, is called Tudor Monastery Farm. I brought it to
the attention of TVO and it will be discussed as a potential offering. I
guess a few more enquires couldn't hurt.
Frank: I couldn't stand having Tracy as a room mate for even a nano-second, |
let alone a fortnight!!
On the poached egg topic, they're my favourite way to eat eggs too. I always had a problem with the water method until I got a gas stove. Being able to control the heat better as you can with a gas stove has made all the difference. I also use a little vinegar in the water and the vortex method that Roy described LOL I used to have a little electric poacher that did 4 eggs and the little pan that the eggs sat in had a non-stick coating that worked perfectly and the eggs never stuck to it. They popped right out.|
Although it's hard to watch, I'm appreciating what a fine job David and Julie are doing in all their scenes. Poor Roy. After listening to Jeff, he finally realizes that Hayley needs to have his support in spite of how he feels about her decision, and he's not being honest with her because he still doesn't agree with what she's going to do. Roy being Roy, he's struggling with that. Didn't Roy look nice in a suit? He's usually dressed in his old light coloured cardie so was nice to see him in that white shirt with the dark vest.
|Is David really the Corrie House guest from hell? Does anyone else have a pick for the Corrie character,they would least like to have stay with them for a forthight?|
Great screen crapture Chris !!!|
How did I miss that?
I'm starting to think this is only a show.
I wonder if Tina bed sheets and pillow case become orange from all the orange oil she puts on.
I like seeing Peter in his cool clothes.
So Kylie hates David because he knew he had an affair
yet she was angry at Tina before she knew because she taught David was having an affair with Tina.
Todd should have taken the factory job just to get inside
and quickly move up to admin or just steal the customer list like they all do.
I'm disapointed David is falling in the typical Corrie Alky role and not moving on and coming back for more revenge (Blah ha ha)
If he hadn't spent Tina's money he could have impressed Tina, wooed her and beat Peter to the relationship.
Hi Monique, your post on Nov 26 get me thinking about people who are dieing holding on to reach a mile stone in their life eg BD or anniversary before death. As a reader of obituaries I have noticed this quite frequently. Many older people die shortly after a birthday or into a new year. |
CORRIE related OMNI SPOILER *** I think making Carla's wedding dress will be good therapy for Hailey, it will occupy her mind and give a sense of acchievement with something she has a talent for. Carla on the other hand, who I do like most of the time, is annoying me with her pre-occupation with her 3rd wedding and all the trimmings. If people (mostly women) put as much effort into their marriage as they do their weddings the former would last longer requiring fewer of the latter.
|Joanne: I hear you! This is a bit off topic, but not really: I used to walk my kids to the bus stop (even though we lived in a fairly large community, my kids were at a French Immersion school, which was further away from the nearest school to us at the time). Anyway, we had a black Lab then, and I'd have him with us as well. The school bus driver used to hand treats to him! It was so cute! My kids would board the bus, and my dog would stand on the first step waiting for his treat! A bit of another topic: the girls at the Timmie's drive through in St. Albert knew my dog by name and would hand him a couple of TimBits! As soon as he saw the sign for Tim Horton's, he'd start to bark and yelp, it was too funny!|
Happy Thanksgiving to all our U.S. Corrie fans.|
Chris: I believe I've previously seen the Wartime Farm Christmas Special, and it's currently advertised as coming up on Knowledge sometime soon. If it's the same one (and I can't see why it shouldn't be), it's every bit as good as any of the others in that series.
Still with Chris: Did make the blooper connection, but wouldn't have without your "heads-up". Thanks for it, and for all the other tips you share with us. I checked with "Flaming Nora", but could only find six future departing characters. Did I miss something?
Re; Poached eggs. I love them that way, but despite having bought many electric or "float in a pan" poachers, have never found one that is easily cleaned after the whites have baked on to the cups, even the old-style china type, so gave up on them long ago. When I tried the boiling water method (my first m.i.l. did them that way), they came out looking like jelly fish. Not pretty! Recently in my local grocery store, I found a three-cup egg-poacher "insert" which I *think* is coated with ceramic on the inside of the cups and it's really marvellous. "Cheap as chips" ($6 and change)and works beautifully. It sits in a pan of simmering water with the pan's lid on, and when done you can simply "loosen" the egg whites around the edges with a (small) rubber spatula and the eggs slide out. Clean-up with a sponge and a little detergent, no abrasives.
If anyone is interested, the contact on the label is: Bradshaw International Limited, Rancho Cucamonga, California, with a phone # 800-421-6290, under the brand of "Kitchen Helpers". If they're available here in my little pocket of the world and at a very small local grocery chain (Quality Foods, which I think is only found on the Island), they're possibly available in larger centres.
Hi, Robyn Ross and welcome to the Guest Book. I spent nearly three years in Queensland way back in another life. Do keep posting.
Monique: Not at all. I share your thoughts about the Hayley/Roy plotline. It brings me to tears, but it's done so well that I can't not watch.
I see very small kids walking to school alone every morning when I go out for errands, and it makes me worry, and they're not even mine! They're not even in a group ... could be snatched so easily, and sometimes are, according to newspaper headlines at times. This is not the safe world it used to be, unfortunately ... I always took mine to school and picked them up until they were older, and that was when it was a lot safer. Yeah, I know, and I was called over-protective by some, but they were my kids, not theirs, and it only took a few minutes out of my day.
|Happy Thanksgiving to our American contingent.|
|Thank You Julie! : )|
Thank you to participants in the survey re: accepting an invitation to Christmas. Here are the results.|
Fiz and Ty--5--they're a harmonious couple for now
Bistro--4--good food, one of Mary's theme nights would be nice
Liz and Steve--3--would be fun if Lloyd came too
Deirdre's--2--1 without Tracy, 1 with Tracy for the delightful chance to poison her
Emily and Norris--1--good food and no kids (that would be my preference too, but I didn't count my vote)
Rita and Dennis--1
Sally's--1--without Tim and Sophie
Chris: maybe there were 14 characters if you count the ones that already left in |
the past year. There were Ryan, Tommy, Karl, Sunita and Kirstie. Kevin and Ken
have been gone for awhile. There were probably others I've forgotten.
|Yes Chris, I saw the blooper. I looked for it when you mentioned it yesterday. I sort of had a feeling that Carla was going to ask Hayley to sew her wedding dress when she mentioned to her that it was out of stock. Poor Hayley just got sucked right into that one. Wonder what Roy will say. ?|
|Vera: Happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone across the river.|
|Chris, thanks for posting that screen capture. It takes little moments like that to make us remember that it's *just a show*! LOL I guess that one got by editing.|
Chris, I spotted the blooper, but thanks for clarifying what it was on the other |
side of the door. This must be the result of the new sets??
Did you see the blooper?
How did this shot get past editing?
Hmm, it looks like you don't actually enter Audrey's salon from Coronation Street. Instead, you somehow enter through the Rovers Return.
Talk about your Time And Relative Dimension In Space! And, that looks suspiciously like a HD camera sitting there. I wonder who owns that? Has Steve taken-up making videos? Will Steve upload his videos to YouTube? ☺
Oops, I made a boo-boo in my earlier post about the number of characters leaving the Street next year. It's seven characters leaving, not fourteen.
And, I have no idea how I made two posts. Maybe my mouse stuttered. ☺
Chris: SPOILER** I don't think Tina and Peter would make a god couple, though |
she does tend to go for losers - or drive them away with her nastiness. He gets
bored quickly and looks around for a bottle or a new woman so I suppose in
soap land anything is possible. Will he hit bottom again when Carla finds out and
fires him? I just hope that Leanne doesn't go back with him eventually.
OFF TOPIC: TVO has published its December schedule. This looks good - Monday, 9 December at 7.00 pm ET there's Wartime Farm Christmas Special. As usual, it features historian Ruth Goodman and archeologists Alex Langlands and Peter Ginn. It's narrated by John Simm (Sam Tyler - Life on Mars).
Quote: 1944 saw the sixth Christmas at war, and shortages were biting deeper than ever. Added to this, Britain's cities were in the grip of the worst German attacks since the Blitz of 1940. Unmanned flying bombs - the dreaded V1 'Doodlebugs' and V2 rockets - rained down, stretching morale and services to the breaking point.
SPOILER: I think we've all heard that a number of Corrie characters will be leaving in 2014, but Flaming Nora has listed them all in this article in Corrie Blog.
WOW fourteen departures, although I think Brian Packham leaves later this year. I wonder how many new characters will be introduced?
Grace Piper's name is not shown, but maybe her contract details are not publicly known. I can't see Grace staying on the Street after the bullying storyline.
Happy Birthday, Eugenie from Moose Jaw.
SPOILER: I think we've all heard that a number of Corrie characters will be leaving in 2014, but Flaming Nora has listed them all in this article in Corrie Blog. WOW fourteen departures, although I think Brian Packham leaves later this year. I wonder how many new characters will be introduced?
Grace Piper's name is not shown, but maybe her contract details are not publicly known. I can't see Grace staying on the Street after the bullying storyline.
Happy Birthday, Eugenie from Moose Jaw.
Tried the Vortex method and it worked very well. The eggs seemed to |
be about 50% larger than usual. Also found a silicone ring with a little
"lifter" in a drawer and I think it is for the other method. I'll try it in
about 2 weeks.
|Robyn Ross - sorry I spelled your name wrong!|
|When I was in grade 3, I was the only pupil whose mother still walked me to school. All the others kids walked to school by themselves. I was so embarrassed. One day, our landlord offered my mother to walk me to school himself. I loved it because he followed me from a distance and made it look like I was walking by myself. I kept requesting that he walk me to school!|
|About walking to school. When I was five years old I attended the local primary school until I was six and went to boarding school. I always thought that them I walked alone, but in a crowd of other young children all going the same way. It wasn't until years later that I learned that the girl who married my eldest brother actually had the responsiblity of seeing that I got to school safely. And there was me thinking what an independent childhood I had. lol. I believe the walk was a mile each way.|
SPOILER: Haili, Tina is being put into the mix so that she and Peter can get together later. But before that happens, Tina plays a small role in the bullying storyline when Grace and FayE are found out.
Frank, back in the day, Deep Purple was one of my favourite bands. I used to own all their albums, but gave away all my vinyl years ago. I have most of their material on CD and mp3 format now, but not the Concerto.
Thanks Sharon for the explanation. I make poached eggs at least once a week. I add a splash of vinegar to the boiling water before gently adding the eggs. I've always known it was to help the eggs keep their shape, but didn't know the science behind it. I didn't know about adding salt, so I'll try that next time.
In my experience, the vortex method works well for a single egg, but not two. Does anyone know of a vortex method for two eggs?
Monique: You're not alone. Even though I could barely make out what Roy was nattering on about, I too just about burst into tears when Hailey did. It's such a sensitive subject, and we've all, or pretty much all of us, have loved Hailey since the beginning. I do find some scenes depressing, but at the same time, so well done. I will just be kind of glad when she leaves the show and Roy can move on (hopefully). :)|
Haili: I agree, kids need more exercise, and most of them these days are enrolled in some sport (usually). Here in the lower mainland, I've seen kids playing soccer in the pouring rain when it's been freezing cold out, it doesn't seem to matter what the weather's doing here!LOL I had my kids in swimming, basketball and soccer, though not all at the same time!LOL
|Hello Robyn from Queensland, Australia. I'm sure it must be nice and warm there. We just had five inches of snow overnight here in Ottawa, Canada but warm wishes anyway.|
I rarely cry at tv dramas or movies but yesterday when Hayley said that she doesn't want to die, doesn't want to leave Roy or leave life and burst into tears I burst into tears with her.
I know that many people find this storyline depressing and I was expecting to feel that way too, but surprisingly I don't. I have a lot of issues with death and the thought of my own mortality freaks me out, so usually I find this topic disturbing. I remember when Cilla went to get the results of her biopsy and it turned out to be melanoma, I had a panic reaction and could barely watch. Not because I loved Cilla by all means, but because I have always had a fear of cancer and feel that a terminal diagnosis would be the worst fate ever. In fact I still haven't gone for a mammogram because I fear finding out bad news. Not logical, I know, but that's how much it scares me. A few years ago I had a type of skin cancer that turned out to be a type that is not life threatening, but I didn't know that at the time and I was a basket case. The scene where Hayley is told her cancer is terminal freaked me out and I thought this whole story would become unbearable. Surprisingly it has had the opposite effect. The sensitive way it is written has actually been helpful in letting me come to terms with the issue of mortality in a slightly less freaked out way.
Sorry this explanation has been so long but I am just surprised by my reaction to this story. It's making me think that what makes death more difficult to accept is that it is a taboo subject in this culture and maybe talking about it more openly would make it less terrifying.
I hope I haven't depressed anyone with my thoughts about mortality.
|Hello Robin Ross!|
Vinegar and salt both help the proteins (albumin) to denature (unwind) more quickly and link up to form a network of proteins, thus setting the egg. The quicker the proteins denature the less feathering there will be around the edges and the nicer looking the egg.|
Okay...I promise I won't post any more egg related posts!
hi i love cornation street i watch the old and new shows every day.i have |
a friend whos been watching since it started.i would love to go to the set
and meet the cast and just be on the street.i watch every day once the
kids are in bed,its to noisy with them up.love reading everybodys
messages.a big hello from queensland in australia
Hey Jude: I don't know if there are more creeps out there than there used to be |
or if we hear so much more about them these days. There is great concern about
childhood obesity and I think it would do the big kids good to walk to school.
I never liked poached eggs but my mother used the vortex method and I've
heard that some people put a bit of vinegar in the water for some reason.
I hope Corrie has more of the other characters this week and leaves the Roy and
Hailey stuff until nearer the end - or that she goes suddenly. It's been so
depressing lately that Faye and Grace seem like fun.
|I couldn't make out a lot of what Roy and Haili were yakking about, but back to poaching eggs: I've just bought a couple of egg poachers that require little water. It's a silicone ring and you set it in a pan of maybe 1/4 cup of water, heat to boiling, put the egg in, poke the yoke after it cooks for a minute or 2, then put a lid over it and "steam" it till done. Then I put them on a toasted English muffin, much like the way McDonald's do their Egg McMuffins - works great, and no more fuss with poached eggs swimming all over a pan and wasting half the white stuff!LOL|
Yes, the vortex of the water keeps the egg closer to the centre of the vortex |
instead of moving out in a less compact shape.
|Selby I believe it helps keep a nice shape to the egg.|
Haili: True, and it's unfortunate, but to be fair things haven't been like the dark ages for a long time now. There's just too many predators and creeps out there nowadays, but the odd time I do see kids of about 8 walking by themselves quite a long way to get to school. My neighbour 2 doors away drives her teen daughters to high school and it's only a 10 minute walk, then she takes off to Starbucks before heading in to work. She also picks them up from school. |
I found the Roy/Hailey stuff depressing too. I wish it would end soon.
I was interested in Roy's discussion of the vortex method of making |
poached eggs. I am planning to have some in a few hours. What were
the purported merits of putting the eggs into a vortex ?
I wonder about all these kids being walked to school. In the dark ages when I |
went to school we walked by ourselves and so did my kids until they rode the
bus farther away. Simon is supposed to be about 10 so why can't he walk a
couple of blocks by himself? Maybe it's just as well with kids like Grace around to
torment him, though Peter and Leanne don't know about her yet.
The actors who play Roy and Hailey do a great job but I find all this talk of death
I loved tonights show with Roy & Hailey. Roy explaining Deep Purple to her was classic and her playing Queen and Roy head bopping was funny. |
I also read the show description about Tommy confronting Kylie and thought Tommy might becoming back with a new head. lol..
Chris, I am really looking forward to Grace's episodes. Wonder how Anna will turn this around and say all along she thought Grace was not a good person.
In Wednesday's episode there's a BLOOPER. You can see it near the end of the show, but you have to be quick and sharp-eyed to spot it. If you record the episode, you'll be able to re-watch it in slow-mo as it's really only visible for a split second.
Look for the scene in the salon when the phone rings and Audrey answers it. Then the camera quickly switches over to the door as Kylie enters.
HINT: Look over Kylie's shoulder to see what's on the other side of the entrance. ☺
|SPOILER So are we supposed to think Simon was too scared to admit the girls got him to do it? Do they just take the girls word over his that they didn't? Not the best way to depict this I didn't think. I think Hayley's feelings are very realistic. They are doing an excellent job IMO portraying the material. So sad.|
|I found this on youtube! Sue Nicholls hit *Where Will You Be?* which went to #17 on the UK charts back in 1968. It was recorded for *Crossroads* which she starred on at the time. She doesn't have a bad voice, but it's a good thing she didn't quit her day job LOL|
|I loved Sue as Reginald Perrin's secretary|
|Wow! Roy Cropper listening to Deep Purple's "Concerto for group and orchestra". Takes me back to the days of my confused youth.|
|Chris: Very well done!|
|I loved Sue as Joan Greengross in her younger days!|
Haley said she didn't think Roy was ready for Glam Rock.
|I googled and found this old interview with Sue Nichols, link above. It's old because she says she's 56 here and according to IMDB she's 70! But It's very funny! She's self deprecating and some of the things she says, I could picture coming out of Audrey's mouth! It's worth a read! I'm looking for a video interview with her so I can hear her real accent. I think she does a wonderful accent for Audrey.|
|Yes, Chris, I think I have noticed Audrey's posh accent now and then! Ooooooh too bad that Becks had to get those tattoos all over his bod. I think they deter from his good looks so much. :(|
Gail have you noticed that Sue Nicholl's upper class accent sometimes creeps into Audrey's speech? I have heard Audrey talk posh a few times, so I have.
Speaking of posh, here's a pic of Posh and Becks. ☺
|Oh, OK, the gardens of Eden. LOL I did know that about Sue Nichols father. She has a very upper class look about her doesn't she. You can easily believe that she had a posh upbringing. She reminds me a little of a more attractive version of Camilla Parker Bowles!|
Terry M and Chris: I think you are both being a bit silly with
the footie stuff.|
(Any chance you can post a pick of Beckham?)
|also, (football) on the off chance anyone may be interested, Wes Brown had his red card rescinded and therefore his three game suspension lifted.|
|I just read in the Daily Mirror, that Charlie Condou, Marcus Dent is leaving Corrie next summer. He's been in the show since 2007.|
|Chris - And God created woman!|
TerryM, I think Mark Eden probably does have a very nice garden at his home with wife Sue Nicholls (Audrey Roberts). A little know fact: Susan Frances Harmar Nicholls' father was Lord Harmar-Nicholls, the former Conservative MP for Peterborough (1950–1974) and MEP for Greater Manchester South (1979–1984), and now a life peer. She is thus entitled to be addressed as "The Honourable Susan Nicholls".
Here's a pic of Jeannie Barbara Eden gazing out onto her garden.
Chris - Something I've often wondered about Mark Eden.|
If he has his own garden?
Thanks Nancy and Chris. That is probably what has happened with the Tommy mention.|
I still think Roy has a right to have his feelings considered as well. Admittedly, this is an unusual case since Hayley worries that she'll become Harold if she goes through the natural death because of the morphine. I seriously wonder how she would act if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Roy asking for her blessing for him to end his life. But having said that, I do agree with what she's doing and feel people should have the right to choose that option. The thing is though, that there are other people to consider, the people who love you and who are being left behind without you. He's struggling with it and instead of showing understanding of that, Hayley just gets annoyed at him. I just don't think she's handling it well. The issue is not black and white, it's complicated.
|Monique: Very good post and I agree with you 100%, especially about the Roy/Hailey thing. I knew someone who had cancer and heart disease and she knew she'd probably go sometime in the month of June. Her birthday was June 15th and she passed away on the 16th, said she didn't want to die on her birthday either.|
|I agree Haili. I hope they do make Simon apologize to Dev, etc.|
Very interesting Monique. I do believe that as a culture we have many issues with dying, death we have to accept, it is our difficulty getting to the end. |
Roy get off your high horse and support your wife in her final months/weeks. Anything less is cruel and heartless IMO. It is not about his feelings, and should never have been.
Re: Eastenders streaming episodes via Vision TV website.
Sorry for this off topic post, but is anyone else having trouble viewing the 2 recent episodes of Eastenders on the VisionTV website? They don't seem to play anymore so just wondering if it was something wrong with their site or my connections?
Thanks and back to Corrie
I agree that the argument should end and this kind of arguing can't be good for Hayley's already fragile health. If Roy is always concerned about Hayley not getting tired he should realize this. I can understand him trying to do research to convince Hayley that she will be ok with medication. But this is starting to take the form of an academic debate and objectively arguing different sides of an argument. He even compared it to different opinions they have about different issues in life. Roy should realize that this is not about rational, objective facts and not everything can be resolved the rational way. It's not about winning an argument, it's about Hayley's life and the terrible ordeal she is facing. This is about Hayley's personal feelings about what she wants to do with her life. I understand how sad he is, and I do feel for him, but eventually he has to do what's best for her.|
It's true that in real life sometimes people are relieved when the end comes. It's one thing to be relieved that the person won't have to suffer anymore, but I cringe when it's because people want to stop being inconvenienced. I had a colleague whose close friend was dying of cancer. I sat beside her at work and heard the heart wrenching conversations between her and her friend. Her friend had this massive will to live and had already defied the odds once when she was given six months to live and lived 10 more years. This time she was at the end and again defied the odds by living almost a month after being given the last rites. The doctor told her she would not see December and she died a few days before Christmas, a day or two after her birthday. The day before her birthday she said that she couldn't die on her birthday so she said it would have to wait until after her birthday. I told my colleague that maybe her friend was trying to hang on until Christmas. My colleague said that she thought so also, but hoped that she wouldn't because that would make everyone's Christmas miserable. Frankly that made me cringe and shudder. Her friend obliged by dying on Dec. 22.
I am also tired of the back and forth with Hayley and Roy.|
If I were Hayley and Roy said again that he wanted to spend her last minutes with her, I would say, "But do you want to spend my last moments, holding Harold's hand, and being with Harold? Let me choose the time and you will spend my last moments with Hayley instead."
I do sympathize with Roy, but he does not have a choice in the matter and I am sick of the argument.
Joanne: Yes, Yiddish is a wonderful language and one word does
translate to a whole sentence. It's a lot to do with the
intonation and attitude behind the word I think. Shamefully
for me, it's obviously impossible to spell....lol|
Gail no, we do not see Tommy again. Tommy is in the sunny, warm Canary Islands. Tina hasn't given-up on him though and continues to attempt to convince him to return to her in cold, damp Weatherfield. As Nancy said, it was probably a slip-up by Rogers.
SPOILER: Plaid Cat, there's still more disgraceful behaviour by Grace she's finally found out. As I said, there are a couple of disturbing episodes to come - in about two week's time. And, I'm hoping that when Grace is found out that she's sent to outer space.
On a related note, I wonder whether thirteen year old Ella-Grace Gregoire (the actor who plays Grace Piper) has been bullied by her schoolmates over Grace's behaviour on the Street and specifically her treatment of Simon. Sometimes people confuse actors with their characters.
Mark Eden (Alan Bradley) was apparently shouted at whilst out and about for the way he treated Rita. Quote: As the evil Alan Bradley in ITV’s long-running soap Coronation Street, Mark Eden was the most hated man in Britain.
|"Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "To." "To who?" "To whom."|
|So far as I can tell, ITV must send out the episode description in advance and when Tommy got cut they'd have had to re-do and send them out fairly swiftly and then rely on all the people to who they sent them to substitute accurately. I ran into a description on Digital Spy that had Tommy in it, even though he wasn't in the episode (I believe that Tina was cooking Tommy a romantic dinner (maybe in order to break the news about David staying over, given the timing). I think you're just seeing a slip-up.|
|I thought that we had seen the last of Tommy. Didn't he supposedly board a flight to Spain or somewhere warm, I forget where exactly. But I just read on the Rogers guide that in tonight's episode *Tommy confronts Kylie*! He must return briefly for an episode or two perhaps.|
|Plaid Cat: Re Peter and Leanne bringing Simon to apologize: they probably will tonight, at least I'm guessing they will. They don't even know yet what Simon did wrong.|
I hope that Roy had an epiphany when he spoke to Jane's husband. I am tired of the back and forth between them about her life and death.|
Grace is mean and I too wonder why no but Owen questions why there is so much drama and upset when Grace is around.
Leah and Joanne you had me laughing.
Shirley: I'll bet there are times in real life when someone is suffering - or making |
everyone else suffer - that their spouse hopes the end will come soon.
Sometimes it comes as a relief to those around them, though it's not acceptable
or nice to say so, and I'm beginning to feel that way about Hailey.
Leah: Hilarious! Not offended at all. Actually, I think my computer and printer are both Japanese :-)|
Julie: Mazel tov (in case you ever want to use it again). My favourite d.i.l. is Jewish and I grew up in an area with lots of Jewish neighbours, shopkeepers and market traders, so I know a little Yiddish. Such a colourful language. One word says a whole chapter!
Thanks for the heads up Chris on finding out what makes Grace so spiteful. That girl is just mean and manipulates all around her. I just hope that Simon or Faye does not end up being hurt by her. |
I was wondering why Peter & Leanne did not bring Simon in to apologize to Dev for the theft, then Simon could have said Grace & Faye put him up to it.? .
Leah from GTA : I don'i know that much about football either. Some |
players are more suited to the CFL and some to the NFL. But as a rule
the best players are in the NFL. The CFL game is quicker and more
exciting usually as you say. But the Grey Cup game could not match
the drama, skill or entertainment of the late Sunday game last night. I
think reducing the number of US players and opening things up for
Canadian players might help a lot.
I don't recognize Haley sometimes. Tonight she was very demanding I
thought. Mind you the character is under stress
Leah: I miss spelled Oy Vey...so I guess we are all at fault |
here and have a good laugh at our misgivings and all need to
get our eyes tested.
|Julie, you got me about mistaking new-ish for Jewish and getting my eyes tested. Just did a couple of weeks ago. The cataracts aren't too bad yet, but I do have trouble reading from a screen. Hope my little mistakes don't offend anyone, especially Joanne whose text I misread. Sometimes I find the mistakes amusing, but others might not.|
SPOILER: Haili, you'll have to wait about two weeks before everyone clues in to Grace's spitefulness. It's revealed in a couple of very disturbing episodes.
|my goodness. It's a good thing this isn't real life, waiting for Hayley to pass away so we can be done with an uncomfortable time. I'd hate to think someone was waiting for me to die earlier. Today my knee keeps going out. I'd like to have Christmas dinner with Fizz and Tyrone at the Bistro with Mary cooking one of her exotic theme dinners. Leanne + Nick ( before accident + 1st Nick preferable)as other guests. The fireman and Lewis could be there as well. Some would be interesting, some kind + amiable, etc. I keep making the mistake of hitting shift c instead of control c so have to do it over again.|
Another depressing episode! Jane's husband told Roy that he gave in to
whatever Jane wanted for her funeral and last days. Maybe now Roy will do the
same with Hailey and make things easier on himself. There is no point in
agonizing over Hailey's plan when they have so little time left. I hope the end
Let's hope that everyone clues in to Grace's spitefulness too - and soon.
|Oh Vey Leah! I suggest you get those eyes checked...lol|
|Joanne, you know how you try to read while still scrolling down through the posts. Sometimes the words you think you see aren't the right ones. While scrolling through your recent post, what I read was, "My computer and printer are both Jewish."|
|Julie: Thanks so much for added help. I didn't know that, but have noted it too, along with the other hints and tips, since I'd like to stay with xp if I can. If not, well, I've fought my way through 'steen computer systems since 1982 when I bought my first, an Apple 2E, back in the Stone Age, when you had to boot it with a floppy disk ... anyone else remember that? Egad! Just realised that that was 30 years ago, so will hope some of my little grey cells are still active and functional!|
Joanne: I have a radio show on that handles
computer/electronic questions and I know that I have heard
people phoning in regarding windows 7 and 8. From what I can
recall, there is a way that you can still run your computer
as in xp mode if you upgrade to a later version of windows.
I think 8 is the touch screen which a lot of people are not
comfortable with so there is a way to change this so that
you do have an upgrade but it's still the familiar xp that
we are all used to.|
I was not paying full attention as it's not an issue that I'm tackling currently.
Help please from the computer whizzez?
Please don't tell me I'm delusional...lol
Sheila, Shirley and Chris: Thanks for all the information which was extremely helpful. Have noted all advice, and think Windows 7 is probably the best, as you all have suggested. My computer and printer are both new-ish (last year and earlier this, respectively), but will ask friend/computer guru to come with me when I buy the new system, since he knows much more than do I.|
Chris: Yes, am having to update because of the April 2014 support cut-off date for XP, otherwise I'd keep it forever! Still, stuff keeps changing, so I have to try to keep up with it, despite being left behind more and more! Thanks for the link ... I'll check it out.
Thanks, too, Frank and Sharon, for sorting out my muddle re: Ken/Canada and Kevin/Germany. Shall hope things work out for Bill Roache as they did for Michael Le Vell ... such easy and vicious charges to make without any proof, and so difficult to disprove even when false.
This is such a friendly site, and everyone is so helpful even when not on Corrie topics ... thanks to all for that.
Now back to the hours and hours of "Dr. Who" that I recorded over the weekend! Have only covered Doctors Four and Five ... much more to go and each episodic piece was very long! Loved the "Adventures in Space and Time" film about how it all started ... most interesting. Kept looking for people with whom I worked in another lifetime.
|Selby, I don't know much about football players' skills, but I know what I like. The Canadian game seems much quicker and therefore more exciting than the American game. I've tried to watch NFL games and been bored out of my mind by the four downs and the all-too-frequent stoppages. Could it be that some players are better adapted to one style rather than the other? I don't really mean to disagree--just asking.|
Gail, there's a BLOOPER coming up this week - I think it's in Wednesday's episode. I'll post a hint on Tuesday. ☺
Leah, great idea for a panto. I remember being taken to the theatre to watch 'Little Shop of Horror's' by my two older sisters. This was the original 1960s black and white movie. It featured a young Jack Nicholson, but he wasn't a big star then. Jack played 'Wilbur Force' who was the masochistic patient of the sadistic dentist. I have a vhs video of this classic.
How about Graham Proctor in the role of Wilbur Force (Arthur Denton in the 1986 remake)?
Here is a video link to Wilbur Force at the dentist's office.
About half way through the game it dawned on me that I was watching |
3rd, 4th and 5th rate US players when I could go just down the dial and
watch 1st rate US players. Its easy to see why the team officials would
put US players ahead of most Canadian players because they have more
skill. But the CFL may miss me in the future and I'm old enough to
remember the Fog Bowl.
|I forgot to add, some of the comments at the bottom are interesting too.|
|This link above might amuse some posters who notice continuity errors on Corrie! :)|
About all I can do this morning is say a feeble and raspy WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO. I spent most of the evening yelling at the TV and am a wee bit hoarse this morning. |
I did have to quit watching at one point - a combination of couldn't hear the announcers over the cheering. cat feeding time and me feeding time and the cats were pretty cranky because I put off feeding them for more than an hour; didn't want to watch Hedley anyways.
Stands were packed and it was truly a sea of green and they did enough shots from a chopper to show how many were dressed in green. There were also dozens of ticketed events around the province that were packed (according to the news reports) and had we still had a bar here, I likely would have ended up in there watching.
Many players flew in their families and there was a large group of people from ND who came to cheer on Dressler. We actually do have people in ND and Montana that have season tickets and have had for decades.
I don't know if any of you guys caught the little comment about Tom Hanks being at the game. He was there with Martin Short and both were wearing green. That says a lot for our CFL product when we have hundreds of US fans.
|Chris: Thanks for the links to those delightful Corrie pantos!!|
Hooray for the Riders!!!|
Chris, my panto would be a take-off on Little Shop of Horrors. Here's the cast:
Seymour, klutzy young lover--Steve (he's not so young, but he's klutzy)
Audrey, ditzy object of his love--Eva
Mr. Mushnik, ranting owner of the flower shop--Owen
Orin Scrivello, sadistic dentist--Lloyd (he could play the part with hysterical gusto)
3-girl chorus--Deirdre, Gail, Julie
the blood-sucking, flesh-eating plant--Tracy
Not very Christmasy, but it might be fun.
|kls- Congratulations! What a great night to be a "RIDERS" fan.|
OFF TOPIC: Congrats to the Green Riders and all Saskatchewan people and fans. A well played game.
I found a couple of Corrie pantomimes on YouTube:
Leah, in my panto cast, I think Tracy should be the evil pantomime villain. The young male character in love should be Chesney and the female young love character should be Sinead. The buffoon is Steve, of course. The older warm-hearted woman should be Mark/Marcia. The horse's arse should be played by Owen.
Who would you cast in your panto?
|We need a panto. How I used to love those!|
|I would love it if Liz and Steve would host a big Christmas Day dinner celebration at the Rover's and invite everyone on the street so we could have the entire cast there. I think that would be an entertaining episode with lots of opportunities for comedy!|
Haili a few days back you posted that Corrie Hailey could be afraid of reliving her childhood as Harald because it was an unhappy time for her. I thought that was very insightful of you. Her childhood would have been at the least confussing, at the worst full of ridicule.|
For Christmas dinner I choose Emily & Norris for the best food. I remember a times when he experimented with flaming Xmas pudding, besides it would be a kid free zone.
I think I'd like to have Christmas Dinner at the Rovers Return with Liz, Amy, Michelle and Steve. It would be great if Lloyd was also an invited guest.
We could all take the mick out of Steve whilst getting snockered. ☺
|Set a place for me at Fiz and Tyrone's Christmas table please.|
joanne - there are several things to consider when deciding
to upgrade your version of Windows. Are you thinking of
replacing your computer, or just the Windows software? If
you are just updating Windows, take a good look at whether
your computer has the speed, memory and hard disk space to
run either Windows 7 or 8 well. It's much better to have
more than the minimum. It also stands to reason that support
for Windows 7 will end before support for Windows 8 does
(not always true, but generally), so if you hate change, you
might want to look at Windows 8 because it will probably
last longer. |
You also need to consider your printer or any other programs/equipment you have - what versions of Windows do they work with?
If you are getting a new system, you might find that a touch screen is worth getting used to - especially if you find a mouse or touchpad awkward.
Lots to think about! But really, I think either system is fine. If you aren't a computer whiz, I do agree that keeping your Windows XP much past the time when it's being supported is not the best idea. You'll find it gets slower and slower when software is written for the newer versions, among other problems.
Christmas dinner with Deidre would be fun and if the family was there I could endure. Eating with the Barlow's may allow someone the chance to slip something into Tracy's food or drink ;-). Carla and Peter can be fun and I could happily gaze at Peter over dinner. Rob, there or not, no matter to me, although he would be a welcome addition if he is in a mood and not thrilled with Tracy. He gives it to her in his way. May not be a the season of joy and peace with them but it could be interesting.|
BTW Rob/Marc was very good a couple of weeks ago in Halifax and throughout the show used the "silly cow" line about Tracy to the delight of the host and audience. Now I am waiting to hear him say it on the show again when he is annoyed with Tracy.
|I agree windows 7 is the way to go from XP. We got advice a couple of months ago not to go to windows 8 ( possibly because it was new and any fixes needed hadn't been done yet, but I think it still applies). I don't think I've had any noticeable problems with windows 7. I did like XP.|
I was thinking that Roy would be missing Ken, the only male friend he could |
have a conversation with and I can imagine the 2 of them discussing Hailey's
situation. Too bad Ken's away for this story line.
Thanks Christine for explaining how VPNUK works - I was wondering. ☺
Natasha, you're welcome. Since CBC has a long-term contract to air Corrie I think it unlikely that we'll see the new service offered here, but that's just my opinion. I don't have any information on ITV's future plans to roll-out their new service in other countries.
Joanne, were you told why you 'must' upgrade Windows? If it's because you are using Windows XP, then it is a good idea. Reason: Microsoft says Support Ends April 8th, 2014 meaning that no more bug fixes or security updates to the XP operating system will be released.
If I had to upgrade, I'd probably go for Win 7. In my opinion (and I'm no expert), it looks like Win 8 is built more for tablets rather than PC or laptop. If you want to see what either Win 7 and Win 8 look like, go to YouTube and do a search for "Tutorial Win 7" or "Tutorial Win 8". Hope this helps. ☺
Diane/tvor: What type of bread does Dr Who eat?|
Leah: My Christmas dinner pick would be with Liz Mac. at the |
Rovers. They've always put on a smashing Christmas spread.
Tons of traditional food and lots of plonk flowing.
Second choice would be with Deidre but only if she's serving
her stuffed marrow as an accompaniment and that Trashy is not
It was all about Doctor Who this weekend but I still managed to do some Sunday comments!|
Nick's gone back home with Leanne and now Kylie's moaning about her life. But there doesn't seem to be any chance Leanne will let her go back to work at the Bistro. Nick is clearly not really ready to be back at work. His memory isn't up to it yet. A group of 10 women comes in which cheers him up but it's difficult for Leanne and Gloria to cope. (where's Stella?) The women are celebrating a divorce and flirt shamelessly with Nick. He pitches in with the cocktails but the noise and the confusion are too much for him and Gloria called in the reserves, Kylie ... and they had no choice. Guess she's back on the roster for good now, that's how these things work.
The big story this week is Todd's return. But it's not all it should be and it seems Todd's come back under a cloud. He's dumped Jules and been sacked but hasn't told any of this to Eileen who hears it from a man Todd's been dating and just dumped. Even worse, he let the other fella, Alex, pay for a holiday and then left him standing at the gate. Alex has blown Todd's cover and was frantic to find out why he's been treated so badly. Eileen soon realized Alex was right. She kept bringing up topics and Todd keeps lying and looking shifty when she turns her back.
Meanwhile, miserable Alex is in the pub insulting Manchester and Sean isn't best pleased but Alex joins him at the bar. Turns out Todd was cheating on Jules with Alex and it was Jules that did the dumping when he found out. Well there's the inevitable confrontation, Todd was busted and Alex wants his money. He gets it from Eileen and now she's very, very disappointed. Todd continued to lie to her and spin the story and Eileen seemed to buy it but Jason sure didn't. Turns out Eileen knew darn well Todd was lying. Todd blames Eileen for idealizing him to the point where he has to lie.
It seems like they've taken another nice character and turned him into a wastrel and a liar. But then, the last time Todd visited he was stuck up and arrogant so maybe this is the end of an ongoing process? Todd is painful to watch, all that spin and arrogance. He's sucking in Sean to his side and Sean believed every word. But emotional blackmail aside, she doesn't want to lose her son and Todd knew it. Jason will be a harder sell than Eileen. Todd says he was looking for work. Somehow I don't believe him. Maybe he could be Kirk's next packing apprentice. HAH! Later in the same show, Julie told Todd there was a job in packing. I KNEW it!!! Of course it wasn't good enough for Todd. He's slowly sucking in Julie as well, playing on her need to be an auntie.
Nick's memory has a long way to go. Will it ever really come back? Good to see that they aren't curing him overnight, though. At least his memory isn't so bad, he did remember Todd who pretended he was an old friend of Todd's. Why would Todd even think Nick would hire him? It served to rehash the old history between Todd and the Platts.
Roy's in obsession mode again, intent on redecorating the bedroom. Anna and Mary don't think he'll manage it by Friday but he won't allow them to help. He snaps at Mary when he finds out she has gone up to the flat to fill up some garbage bags with stuff and finally, Anna insists that he tell her what's wrong because something clearly is. She may regret asking that! Her kindness is weighing on Roy. Anna really can't understand why he's not spending every moment he can with Hayley but we know he can barely stand to look her in the eye just now. He blurted it out and shocked Anna to her core and now she's got to keep the secret, too.
Well, now Anna has a big secret to keep and it's heavy on her shoulders. Roy and Hayley are never going to see eye to eye on it and even Anna can sort of see Hayley's side of things. Well at least she rescued Roy from paper hanging hell and just in time, too because Hayley was released early! Clearly she's been avoiding him, too and she didn't like Roy's wallpaper choice either.
Roy's still fussing over Hayley who wants to visit dying Jane. I really like Carla and Hayley's friendship. Roy is still avoiding talking the big talks with Hayley and avoiding the hard situations like visiting Jane. He delayed and delayed, passive aggressively making sure that Hayley got to the hospice late but sadly, Jane died the night before. Surprised nobody contacted Hayley or at least Roy seeing as her husband said Jane considered Hayley a good friend.
It's not fair that Hayley blamed Roy, though. If Jane died the night before, it didn't matter how much he delayed their arrival at the hospice. Oh wait, he'd diverted Hayley from visiting Jane the other day, that's what she's upset about. Jane's death has really thrown Hayley. She's snapping at Roy but knows she shouldn't. I think it's a reality check and she's scared. Now the pair of them can't stop arguing. Hayley's desperate and Roy can't accept it.
Why is Roy cleaning the paint off the brushes. I guess he managed to get all the wallpaper off but he only had a bit of it off earlier in the show. He must have stripped like a demon!
Grace is winding up Faye again and this time she's got her to tell tales on Sally to Tim. Sally left them to nip over to the shop so the girls made it look far worse than it was and lied that there was someone breaking in. It had the desired effect of ruining Tim and Sally's evening. Anna is just as much of a sucker parent as all the others on the Street. Easily manipulated. Owen wasn't best pleased to have his decision about Faye going to the concert contradicted. Faye might have enjoyed the gig but she's feeling the late night and Owen is surly about it all. Mary's conversation has turned her into Grace's latest target for disdain. She's such a brat and Faye might be seeing the light. Not enough to drop her as a friend, though, and Owen's dislike of Grace is growing. Anna's blinders are getting bigger. Throwing rocks at the motor home was Grace's next little game and then spraying insults on it, making Mary feel bullied. They were practically caught red handed yet Anna still refuses to believe it's true.
Wow, Amy. Haven't seen her in ages aside from the Halloween party. Michelle is back, too. I'm not really sure what it was Steve was trying to create out of toilet rolls and scraps but it looked worse than what Amy could probably make! Steve's project turned out to be every bit as rubbish as we thought. He never was much of a student and now he feels a bit bad for letting Amy down. He got the wrong war for Armistice Day so he's decided to enrol in college for a night course. You know he's doing it to try to get out of more work and he is, doubling the amount of time away from work that it's actually going to take, But it's not right that they're all taking the mick out of him, too.
Lines of the week:
Gail "I do have an amusing turn of phrase when I put me mind to it"
Sally "Some of the dance moves are a bit suggestive. I'm not sure you're ready for male buttocks"
Todd about Eva "I guess I can't compete with a blow up doll"
Gloria "You don't get this old by being daft"
Steve "I'm not a total numpty you know"
Steve "Is it all right if I leave the room before you start slagging me off?
Hayley to Roy "You don't have to paper over the cracks"
Sean to Todd "Don't let it change who you are" (too late)
Steve "I answer to no man" Michelle "STEVE!" Steve "Yes, dear"
Roy "If it's not one of a pair, what use is it?" (*gulp*)
Lloyd "The world of academia's loss is the pub's gain"
Mary "My haven on wheels often engenders envy in adults shackled to bricks and mortar"
Lloyd "Normal apathy will be resumed"
Hayley "If you love someone, set them free. You can even get it on fridge magnets"
|Christmas dinner invite on the street...hmmm. So many variables. Rita and Dennis if Tina and David were not there. Eileen's if Todd was not there. Sally's if Tim and Sophie were not there...LOL I could go on. A nice meal at the Bistro sounds good to me!|
|Joanne- The William Roache trial starts on Jan 14.|
|Joanne - I believe Kevin is in Germany with his Dad who suffered a heart attack and Ken is in Canada with his Grandson Adam.|
|I'd pick Fizz and Tyrone's too. Right now they are the happiest couple on the street and it would be fun.|
|That was meant to read "food lovingly-shared".|
The Bistro would be my choice. There would be some kind of floor show for |
sure; a bit like Fawlty Towers. Roy's would be too depressing.
Meant to post part of this yesterday, but hit the wrong key half-way through and totally banjaxed it. I hate this keyboard! Anyway, here goes and forgive if it's too long.|
Hailie: I had no idea you'd undergone surgery and hope you'll be feeling 100% very soon. This time of year everything seems gloomy and as you say, all the news is depressing, but just under a month and we have the Winter solstice and start heading for spring. Meantime, will you take a hug from a far-away stranger?
I agree with those who deplored the nasty mockery from Liz, Lloyd and Michelle over Steve's plan to go to community college. Not only did Liz, his mother, bring up all his past faults and failings which were nobody else's business, but his so-called best friend and his live-in partner joined in the cruelty. It was wicked of them to make fun of him in public, and with strangers and outsiders within earshot. I, too, hope he meets some nice woman at college and kicks Michelle to the curb, and that she goes off to Dublin forever. Or anywhere. Ashamed of Liz and Lloyd ... I thought better of them than that.
Leah: My Christmas dinner on the Street? With Fiz and Tyrone and "the two little girls". You know the welcome would be warm, the food shared and the friendship real.
SPOILER: Reading the UK weekly offering, Deidre's going to Canada to be with Ken? Hmmm ... why did I think he was in Germany? And does that mean Deidre at long last will be leaving the Street, or that Ken will be returning (I hope)? On that note, has anyone heard anything more about the court case/charges against him or how it is progressing?
OFF-TOPIC: My friend and computer guru tells me I must update my Windows programme to either #7 or #8 (yeah, I know, I'm a modern-day Luddite who doesn't change anything until forced so to do!). I'd appreciate recommendations as to which others might have and/or prefer, please? Thanks.
Christmas Dinner invite from one of the Corrie residents???? I think I would go to Roy's Café or the Bistro, only because I would be afraid at who else would be around the residents dinner table. And I want to make sure the turkey is cooked properly. lol... |
If I had to pick one person I think I would pick Fizz & Tyrone's. No drama around that table.
|Frank, right! It doesn't pay to be smart on Corrie because no one listens to you. That's why so many of them do such unbelievably stupid things. It's like watching a horror movie. Someone always says, 'don't go in there, it might be dangerous' and within seconds the other characters go in anyway.|
|I find it rather sad that Owen seems to be the only smart one these days.|
|Here's a Christmas survey that might be fun. You happen to find yourself on Coronation Street alone or just with your spouse on Christmas day. You know all of the families and they all invite you for Christmas dinner. You can only accept one invitation. Whose invitation would you accept and why? I'll be tallying the results and letting you know.|
|Chris from Ontario....Thank you so much for that informaton. It certainly makes sense. Once offered in Canada, I will certainly subscribe. Thanks again.|
I suppose that Mary's RV lifestyle is not much different than those who live on boats (docked or sailing) in some places rather than live in a house or apt. Remember Ken's love on the houseboat?|
Like Mary said, the romance and lure of the "open road" and all that. Just Mary being Mary.
I do hope the mean girls are found out and exposed soon. Todd, Grace, and Faye are nasty to watch IMO, and we just got rid of slack jawed David for a bit. I know he will resurface, mouth agape and eyes squinting. I want some witty dialogue (not the slag steve for trying a course dialogue)and a few one liners to make me think or laugh. I am sick of Todd already. Sean is going to get burned if he listens to and believes Todd's stories. Maybe that is where we are going with this? Not sure but Sean has lived at Eileen's for a long time and time to shake things up? Where the heck do they all sleep? Does she have bunk beds up there for all who live in, visit, or stay over?
Hi everyone, it's that time again, the Coronation St Fun Pages have been updated, including the 'Featured Extra' page. If you are a single lady, you just might want to check this one out - he's quite a catch, and says he's ready to settle down. ;-)|
He also has a beautiful singing voice, but I haven't added his song to the background of the page yet. I hope to do that in the next day or two.
Debbie & Norma's Quiz this time is a bit tricky, at least I thought so, but it's always good to get the old grey matter turned over every once in a while.
I didn't have time to read through all the posts, but did happen to catch one by Chris mentioning the VPNUK link on my page. How it works is you 'rent' a British IP address from the company that sits on your desk top. When you log onto it, the British IP shows up as your address, allowing your computer to appear to be in the UK, and therefore will be allowed to watch any TV shows live or on catchup, plus any of the special online videos that ITV occasionally have.
Anyway, here is the link to my site:
Sharon, I thought I recalled that the actor on Heartbeat who also played Doug Murray on Corrie died last year and so I checked it out on IMDB and unfortunately he did die from prostate cancer. |
I recall that Hayley told Roy she had a very disturbing dream that she was Harold again. I think she just fears that when she's near death and not thinking clearly, she will think she's Harold. I can't help thinking she's being a lot more selfish than Roy is, but I also understand that she has to do things her way and that she wants to have Roy's support. I can very clearly understand both their perspectives.
Oh poor Michelle, she can't do anything right! I don't think she's anymore a nagging shrew than a lot of the other Corrie females. What about Rita? All she ever does is nag Dennis and chastise him for everything! Nagging is a common trait with the Corrie women!
Shirley - Yes, we saw Schmeichel being put down. It was very sad, as you can imagine, (but well done) and you'd certainly remember it if you saw it.|
The bullying storyline is going to go on for a while yet, so lets hope they have a conclusion in mind that will educate us all about this nasty business.
|Don't remember seeing Schmeikel being put down, but knew at some point that it had been done. Not sure I like all the storylines with teasing/bullying in them. People probably won't learn from seeing it not to do it themselves. It may just make it look more normal/usual hence o.k. It would be better if they are going to do it, to show good ways to deal with it ( help the Anna's, Faye's of the world to cope appropriately to peer pressure, etc.). Navigating life situations can be difficult.|
|Remembering that this is just a show, I agree in principal that the choice should be Hayley's. However, I'd rather not watch her kill herself. It was hard enough watching Schmeichel be put down.|
|Roy needs to give in to Hailey, even if he doesn't agree. There's no "We'll do it your way next time".|
|Hey Jude, how silly of me. The camping/RV world is completely strange to me. Guess you can tell.|
I think one thing we can all agree on is that Hailey's predicament is much worse |
than Roy's, but there's nothing much Roy can do about that. He was with her
almost all the time and she felt smothered by him until she talked about suicide.
I think it would be a natural reaction to try to talk someone out of suicide if they
brought it up but maybe he'll come around. Roy never does anything without a
lot of thought.
|Leah: You drive the RV to a dumping station, what else?? They've been around for decades!!!LOL|
|Not to be too indelicate, but where does Mary dump her toilet waste?|
Lynn, I agree with you that Hayley's predicament is much worse than Roy's because he can have a life to live after she goes but all she has in her future is death, the ultimate loss of everything. And I agree that he should be supportive of her wishes. I don't agree that she should go it alone to spare him. Dying has to be the most difficult and terrifying thing to go through and it would be cruel to face it alone. Of course you would want the support and presence of your spouse at a critical time like that, your last moment ever. I agree that she shouldn't expect him to do anything illegal, but I did read somewhere that she won't. She hasn't asked him to so far. She just wants him there with her when the time comes. Mind you I also really feel for Roy and the pain he's going through.|
As for her anger, I think it is only natural under the circumstances. Most people will act out to some extent when under extreme pressure, and I cannot think of a bigger pressure than facing your own extinction. As Pearl said, her angry reaction is more realistic than the perky living life to the fullest phase. And she has been a trooper so far, trying to put a brave face on and remain upbeat. If she kept it up 100% of the time and never exploded she would have to be a saint, not a human being. I think everyone should cut her some slack. If I were in her shoes, I would be a basket case and nowhere near as calm as she is.
Lynn, I also know what you mean about people ignoring the pleas of others in a desperate situation and running their own agendas.
I usually enjoy Liz and her far out fashion sense and haven't minded most of the |
hair styles except for that frizzed out one she had a few days ago. Her remarks
about Steve seemed out of character.
Roy is doing his best to make Hailey's last days as happy and comfortable as
possible. I don't really know what she expects from him but he should just listen
and say he understands; it would save listening to constant static. She can do
what she wants when the time comes but shouldn't expect him to do anything
illegal. This is getting hard to watch.
And sorry I forgot;|
I was so annoyed with the scene where Liz and Michelle made fun of Steve for bettering himself or making an attempt at night school. Two gobby barmaids have the nerve to make comments? I found the whole scene offensive. Yes, how awful to educate oneself and set a good example for a child who has a horrible scheming mother and a grandmother who cannot appreciate the importance of getting an education.
Rita and Emily have more sex appeal than those two.
Someone should remove that smug look from Michelle's face & soon I hope.
And, Liz should cut back on the hair bleach, I keep trying to see the weave or extensions since she returned. Think the hair is all hers? IMO she could be more attractive with a smart hair do, I like it when it is up, she looks nice then, quite polished and attractive behind the bar.
I may be the the contrarian here but I felt good when Haley told off Roy. He is too caught up in his emotions to support her IMO and he needs to be told by her with some vigor that she is the one dying, she has needs, she needs his support, his strength, him by her side as she deals with her death. I find him completely selfish, yes he is going to be alone and bereft and beside himself without her: absolutely, 100% his life is shattered but what about her? Her life is coming to an end and she needs help and he is being very cold and hurtful to her IMO. |
I have more than a casual understanding of those around refusing to help in a desperate situation and running their own agenda despite the pleadings of others, so maybe I am overly sensitive to Roy's refusal to help Haley. It is highly narcissistic of Roy to refuse to see her needs and think he knows better and make himself the centre of the situation. I find it out of character for him, he is usually level headed and sees the logic so I find this whole story fraught with holes one could drive a bus through. I understand his desire to keep her around as long as possible, but still IMO his logic would overtake the emotion. Reason over passion.
IMO He needs to rise to the occasion, you do not have to like it,but do it anyway, and support her in her decision; after all Roy gets a shot at life after Haley, Haley has death as her only option. I think Roy is being obstinate and cruel. I do see his point but come on, she has weeks or months and has made up her mind to do what is best for her. What kind of person tells their partner, I know better and this is what you are going to do? I know what kind; usually divorced! no adult needs another to make their decisions for them unless they ask for it. She is pleading for help and he rejects it. I applaud her for letting loose on what appears to be a very selfish man who wants her to live for his needs and not hers.
*Todd is a creep who needs a good slap. He is neither bright or gifted, all his actions prove that.
*I hope Faye and Grace get one over on that dumb Anna. She deserves it, they play her like a violin, just like Gary did to her.
|Very Off Topic, but when my Uncle was dying of cancer, in his last days he saw Diana Dors at the foot of his bed and had quite the conversation with her!|
|Chris, yes indeed both the girls in the Heartbeat episode were wearing wigs! Cheers!|
Agree with everyone about Corrie being depressing at the
moment.They need more women of substance! In the good old
days the women ruled the street and not much of this
nonsense would have happened in the first place. Michelle is
a prime example. Very nice to look at but no back bone, very
lack lustre, boring and just a continual nag.|
Haili: To get us over the depression and your surgery, it was the 100th anniversary of the birth of Benjamin Britten yesterday so fire up some powerful music and enjoy. My dog also turned 11 yesterday and she had a great romp in the leaves...Awe! There's always a bright side!
It makes more sense to me that Hailey is scared and angry about her impending death than the 'must live every moment to the fullest' phase that the Blackpool trip emphsized. Ofcourse that had to come first or it would have been less beliveable. Now whether it is fear of reverting to Harold or loss of control in general, her anger seems a natural reaction. Roy just happens to recieve the brunt of her anger, in an other circumstance it could be other family members or medical personel. Well played on both actors though.|
I think Liz, Lloyd & Michelle teasing Steve was comic releaf from the Roy and Hailey scenes. Steve messing up on Amy`s school project was probable a setup for this new storyline for him. You have to agree that it is not a common thing for a street character to try to further educate themselves, Sally being an exception. I enjoy most scenes with Lloyd and Steve as they work of one another so well and it is a two way street between them.
Mary`s motorhome like other vehicles appear and disappear on the street as the storyline requires. What did surpise me was Mary being that upset, I expect her to fly out the door all guns blazing. Here again this storyline features Grace and Faye so Mary must play the victim.
I don't think Hailey dreads acting like Harold - but feeling the unhappiness she |
felt when she was Harold.
When Jane was on morphine she went back in time and thought she was in her |
childhood. I think Hailey dreads that happening to her since she was so unhappy
as Harold. I don't blame her for being afraid of the unknown and that reminds
me of my Scottish aunt who thought an old friend was leading my uncle around
with a piper. She was on drugs for cancer at the time and laying in a hospital
bed. Both my aunts told me they were ready to go shortly before they died.
Neither of them asked for support to commit suicide but everyone reacts
Plaid Cat: Hailey mentioned something about "reverting back" to Harold, I'm not sure exactly what she said, but on general terms, yes, I think Hailey is afraid that if and when she needs painkillers, that that will make her "act" like Harold again. I know I wasn't specific, but I know Hailey did mention her former self as Harold, and yes, I agree that she should just make the arrangements and not expect Roy to just agree with her. |
Shirley: I would also go to Sleep Country, and they will haul your old bed off and donate it to someone who needs a good bed. With the pillow top, if you choose one, don't buy one that is 4" thick! We made that mistake and sometimes it's a devil to get out of (it's made of a very dense foam) sometimes. I think they will also let you try it for a couple of months and will take it back if you change your mind. Good luck!
Daphne: we had our first snow flurry this morning! It cleared up but now it's |
snowing and blowing again. I'm staying in with a DVD this aft.
I would never talk to one of my adult kids the way Liz talked to Steve and we kid
around a lot and can take a joke. It seems more natural between Lloyd and Steve
but Michelle and Liz go too far IMO. Michelle is a nagging shrew anyway and as
someone else said, if she thinks he's that stupid, why is she with him? He is
pretty dumb when it comes to women though!
SPOILER: Michelle Keegan (Tina McIntyre) has confirmed the rumours of her exit storyline. Digital Spy has the story.
Leah, you're welcome; glad you enjoyed M & C.
Mark I'm not sure, but I think Sally Ann Matthews (Paula) was wearing a wig. That's what it looked like to me, anyway.
Sharon thanks, I knew I had seen the musician before, but I couldn't place him. Good spotting! ☺
Mark, Frank and Leah, SPOILER: Steve will meet a new woman at nightschool. I think she'll remind him of "Delilah". ☺
Daphne, I think Michelle, Liz and Lloyd were just taking the mick - I didn't think Steve was being belittled, just being ribbed by people who know him well and care for him. I thought it was funny.
Natasha, a possible explanation why new Corrie episodes are being quickly removed from YouTube is that ITV has announced the launch of a new international subscription service which will allow fans who live or travel abroad to watch Coronation Street and Emmerdale online.
The new project, titled ITV Essentials, is now available in 12 European countries for a monthly subscription cost of €5.49. ITV Essentials is currently available to soap fans in Austria, Belgium, France, Greece, Gibraltar, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia and Spain only.
It's possible that ITV requests YouTube withdraw current episodes so that their European based fans will have to subscribe to their new service.
** Off Topic ** Shirley, have you tried going to Sleep Country. It is a great store with lots of items to try out. They have those mattresses, forget the name - Beauty Rest I think, they do the bowling ball test, and you do not feel a thing when it lands. Very expensive though. |
Hey Jude, I agree that Hailey was very mean to Roy, she just does not get it that he will be left behind after she is gone. I also do not understand the statement that she will revert back to Harold. ? Is she afraid that she will say something.?? Everyone who would ever come into the room knows her past. I just think the writers could have come up with a better excuse. Like the obvious one - she is afraid of the pain.
I had to laugh at Nick's reaction at seeing Todd behind the bar, and it sure does not look like he got over that kiss. lol. Todd sure has changed. when Julie gave him the money and then got up to get the drinks, he had this smirk on his face that can only mean trouble.
I also though that Liz, Lloyd and Michelle were mean to Steve teasing him about going to night school to do a course. I hope he does well and proves he is not as thick as they treat him.
|OFF TOPIC Sorry to ask this, but does anyone have any recommendation for a nice mattress to buy? I'm having trouble finding one. I usually like the Simmonds beautyrest with the individual coils so people don't roll into each other because of a weight difference or whatever, but the one I tried was too hard. The pillow top one made it feel lumpy. SPOILER Hayley did a great job playing her role. Poor Mary being hassled by the kids.|
|I haven't read all the posts yet, but I agree with the 2 of you who said last night's eppi was depressing! Yikes! Hailey was so horrible to Roy. Okay, she has PC, but we've never, ever seen that side of her before - very upsetting to watch, at least for me, but I get it, she is dealing with the demons of being afraid she'll revert back to Harold. OMG I thought the same about Todd. If he was SO successful in London, why come back to Mommie! I'm sure he could have found something in London!LOL It doesn't make sense as Mark says!!LOL|
Haili - I have one bright thought for you - you don't have the snow that has been dumped on us this month:-)|
If Hailey wants to end her life early then she should plan for that but she has no right to expect Roy to be a willing partner. If she feels so strongly about it then she should be prepared to go it alone. She is so fixating on the fear of reverting to Harold that she probably will - we empower what we focus on. Make you plans Hailey but don't try to force Roy to agree with you and enjoy your last days together. Her behaviour right now is a form of blackmail in my opinion.
Hmm! We need Simon to tell Anna what was going on with the rock throwing.
I didn't find all the belittling of Steve funny. Did anyone else? I was embarrassed for them that they would find it amusing that Steve felt enough for his mistake to try and improve himself. I could have slapped them all, Lloyd included.
|Also on the episode of Heartbeat mentioned below, I believe that was Brian Hibbard who played the druggie musician. Brian played Doug Murray on Coronation Street - he stole Mike Baldwin's Jaguar!|
|I am sure this question has been asked before, but why is it not possible to watch proper episodes of Corrie on Youtube anymore? Is anyone else having this problem?|
Thanks Jean F. and Gayle. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Maybe Christmas will |
bring some better shows or at least some comedy. This time of year is the
anniversary of family deaths too so that doesn't help. I must distract myself
this weekend with some DVDs. Corrie always gets better around holiday time
and we need some laughs.
Remember Toyah and Spider with Theresa the turkey? Vera and Jack
barricaded upstairs and people sending up goodies via a pail on a rope? Good
|No Hailie, it is not just you...November AND February are both known as depressing months because the weather is so often nasty and the skies are gray and that bothers a lot of people (myself included.) To make it worse you are recovering from surgery so you are not feeling yourself and that makes it difficult to stay positive. I am sure you will feel better once your recover completely. In the meantime, Corrie has been depressing and unpleastant this week abd severak people have postged about that.|
|I found last night's eppie depressing. What with the brats throwing stuff at Mary's motorhome. (which I am sure is parked illegially). Faye baldfaced lying to gullible Anna. Hayley being so nasty to Roy. Hayley is carrying on about Jane's passing as if they were lifelong friends she barely knew the lady. Don't get me started on Michelle, Liz and Lloyd making fun of Steve for taking a history class. We also have Todd being so snotty to everyone. If he was such a success in London why is he back home with Mommy? I did like to see Owen being kind with Mary.|
Is it just me or is Nov. the most depressing month of all? It didn't help that I had |
minor surgery and a few medical appointments which are never fun and am now
resting and recuperating. There was a whole week of Remembrance Day war
stuff and now a whole week of JFK assassination programs, and my favorite show
has Hailey dying and Roy miserable all month and maybe for months to come. I
need to watch some comedies and be thankful that things aren't a lot worse.
I hope Corrie has some funny stuff lined up to ease the tension of the somber
Lisa from Apohaqui:|
I agree with you about Mary's van being parked in the street and living in it. also, I would not like to have that large vehicle parked in front of my living-room window.
I wonder how she manages with regard to sanitation. She must have to drive it somewhere to get emptied then hope to be able to park it in the same spot.
That's another thing: I know that being Corrie all things are possible. But my sister lives in Hull in a similar area like Corrie and the cars are parked bumper to bumper and if you leave your parking spot outside your home you may never get back to it for a long time. I don't think you have any right to be able to part outside your own home.
|I think that Salford is the greater area and Weatherfield is the smaller community within where Coronation Street is located. They have mentioned Salford off and on for years, and it's a real place in Manchester.|
|Mark, I agree that Steve should meet another woman on his course. With Michelle and his mother at the Rovers, he is severely henpecked. No wonder he wants to get away for awhile now and then.|
|Mark- Great story idea about Steve meeting a nice lady in the university course. Lets hope the writers are reading this. She could be an intellectual,who lives on a tugboat. As you can see I'm still missing Blanche.|
Steve's note book of courses said Wheatherfield College on it or something like that but I thought they were in Salford.|
Someone refered to Salford this week.
The writers need to make up their minds where they are living once and for all! and soon!
Thank you Nancy, Shirley, Gail, Gwen, kls, for the Sweet Potato advice.|
I do devide the batches into small portion sized containers and freeze some.
I can't add sugar.
I'm going to have to be more persistant in removing the white underskin.
I think that is what is turning dark green.
I didn't know that Pearl, Thanks...
Chris... Hummm at the end when she was in the hospital bed, I thought she looked familiar but would never had guessed it was her.
Her hair was thicker on Corrie.
omini spoilier ***
By Hayley always telling herself she's going to revert back to Harold
that is problably what she is convincing her mind to do eventually.
She should focus on being Hayley.
I'm glad Roy told her she's being abusive to him.
I hope Steve meets a nice woman at his university course!
Michelle isn't worth much to him anymore.
Chris, I think it was you who suggested watching Master and Commander. Just did, and it was great. Thank you.|
Anna must have acquired her parenting skills from Deirdre. She won't believe Faye can do any wrong. Deirdre knows her daughter can do wrong, but all she ever says is, "Oh Tracy, what have you done now?"
In tonight's Ontario episode of Heartbeat there was a character called Paula. She was the girl wearing the red beret and driving the very cool sports car.
Paula was played by Sally Ann Matthews. SAM also played Corrie's Jenny Bradley. Jenny was fostered by Rita and was the daughter of Alan Bradley.
And, we all know what happened when Rita went to Blackpool.
|Corrie in one half hour here. I see" Call the Midwife" repeats are on now again, I guess gearing up for this season. Channel 22 here. You can tell Todd hopes for a more prestigious job than most of the rest of the people from Corrie.|
A month or so ago I was concerned that we would be faced with |
weeks/months of Haley's passing. I wasn't anticipating her turning into
what we saw tonight. Some combination of insightful/selfish/moralist.
All totally understandable given her circumstances which are certainly
nothing that I would wish on myself or anyone else. But it is a surprise.
Lisa: I agree. Steve should dump Michelle and he should stand up to Liz when |
she belittles him.
I know Hailey is going through a lot these days but the way she carries on and is
so mean to Roy makes me glad I'm not married and wishing the end would come
for her soon. I knew she'd blame him for not seeing Jane but Jane was out of it
on morphine according to the husband and wouldn't have known her anyway.
Then there's the idiot Anna who believes anything Faye tells her, but what else is
|I think Hailey was right! Roy bought that wallpaper because it was cheap!! (horrible 70's style!)!!LOL|
Steve can't dump his mother but he sure can dump that Michelle. She belittles |
I LIKE the new wallpaper!|
How can Mary park that big van on a street and live in it! Surely against the
kls - I think the rights to the Rough Rider name are still owned by a former team owner Horn Chen and he won't give it up cheaply. I think it's just as well though. A nine team league with two teams with much the same nickname was fodder for stand-up comedians, but not as much as Rob Ford of course.|
I don't like the name Redblacks either, but hopefully it will grow on me. What I really don't like is they will be called the Rougenoir in French and I don't think you can translate sports names. But I guess we have to be politically correct these days.
This talk about potatos has helped me solve the Washington Redskins nickname controversy. We can change the name and not change it at the same time. How about the Washington Red Potato Skins?
One booze store....er SLGA vendor.....reported 61% increase in sales this week. The biggest customer is the stadium. The airport is stretched beyond capacity and the Snowbirds are going to be based there as well, starting tonight (like Moose Jaw at 45 miles west is a HUGE flight). No rooms left anywhere and there are people coming in campers and RVs now. The oddest thing this week is a submission from a school in Warsaw, Poland and I linked it at the top. I can't find some of the other more interesting things like the poem 'twas The Night Before Grey Cup 2013 and a couple of parody songs.
I dunno who came up with the name Redblacks - sounds like not much thought or effort was put into it and the name is decidedly juvenile. I thing the Rough Rider (two words) is tangled up in some legal trademark wrangling.
|Chris: I feel the same way and I'm a Torontonian living in the lower mainland!LOL|
Chris, I echo your sentiments re: the Grey Cup. As a Torontonian with family in Saskatoon, I would be delighted if Toronto won last year and Saskatchewan won this year. Go Riders!!!|
Terry, whoever thought of the name Redblacks ought to see a shrink. Of course I felt the same about naming T.O.'s basketball team after dinosaurs and am now used to it.
|Hi Mark: I just boil my sweet potatoes the same as ordinary potatoes in salted water. When they are soft just mash them with butter/marg ,pepper and a small amount of orange juice. Yesterday I made a huge batch and froze it, to thaw and reheat on Xmas Day, either in the oven or microwave. They taste as if you have just made them fresh, you could freeze them in smaller quantities. I usually peel all of the white layer off before cooking.|
OFF TOPIC: KLS and TerryM, although it pains me to say so, I'm so glad Toronto Argos did not make it to the Grey Cup this year. Can you imagine how different the pre-game festivities would be with Rob Ford in the mix? It doesn't bare thinking about!
Go you Green Riders. ☺
kls - You must be happy Ottawa's new CFL team next year will not be called the Rough Riders. They'll be the Ottawa Redblacks. (I wonder what their colors will be? :-) Probably not green and white though.|
Good luck in the Grey Cup against those Tabbys!
Hayley's fear of reverting back to Harold in her final days brings to my mind the classic Jekyl and Hyde story. But it is an extra situation that the average person would not find themselves in, and maybe we and Roy should give Hayley a little extra leeway when it comes accusing her of selfishness.
I understand how Hailey feels but I don't think she should expect Roy to |
suddenly agree with her. He never does anything without giving it a lot of
thought and he hasn't had time to process it. I don't think she should expect him
to be involved either and probably shouldn't have told him. She could just go
ahead and do it some night without telling him. I know it would be a shock when
he woke up but they are expecting it some time anyway.
Well put Monique about Haley's choice. I agree fully. |
If I may add,
In our lives there is so little that we really have control over, so much is prescribed, required, institutionalized and regulated that I understand completely why Haley, or anyone in her circumstance would make the choice she is opting for. I too would be opting for some control of my illness, pain and ultimate destiny. Not all agree with this position and I respect those views, for you it may be important to let fate, God, nature or whatever your beliefs dictate be the determinant of how life ends. That is what makes this world go 'round, we are all bringing something different to the party and hopefully enhancing the experience for all those we encounter.
I feel that one must never lose sight of whose life it ultimately is; and in this case it is Haley's life and if she decides it is important to her to end her life at a particular time, I would hope that, as painful as it is for him, Roy can respect her wishes.
EDIT: first sentence |
Too many unlikeable...
sorry about that
Too unlikeable characters and story lines these days IMO. David just got outed as the vengeful, disturbed individual that he is and now we have Grace and Todd.|
Grace and Faye are two unlikeable little women. What happened to Craig these days?-- I'd like to see him find out about the mean girl thing and be the hero. I would love to see our Craig come along with a plan to give Grace what for. It would be a nice touch after all he has been through with the Karl plot. I think Craig could pull it off-- and then we can have a puppy love story with Faye and Craig.
Todd is creepy, is it the hair cut? facial expression? not sure but he does seem to have a rather sinister side not seen in the past -- does he really? or is this the best plot device they could find? It seems like a weak plot so far to me, unless Gail and Eileen end up bonding over their freakishly disgusting children and where they went wrong with Todd and David.
Roy and Haley: It is a tough situation for all and R & H cannot seem to find that common ground yet. I am not interested in looking at the pained expression on R's face everyday. Kudos to the actor, David N., the distress is very genuine.
One more sweet potato method - boil until almost tender, cool, peel then slice into 1" slices. Dredge the slices in a mix of brown sugar and flour, place in a well buttered shallow baking pan, dot each slice with butter and bake at 350° until the sugar is all melted and gooey and the slices are fork tender. If there are not too many slices, you can also fry then in butter. |
Now to last night - What was with that tacky coat Todd was wearing?? looked like he was poured into it and they over-poured so bits of him stuck out between the buttons.
I still wanna drown Grace - now she is after crazy Mary, who just asked one of those conversation making questions. Grace needled her about her weight then is going to throw things at her motor home? GAAAAAAAHHHHH
Green is the colour, football is the game................ here kitty, kitty, kitty.
And congrats to Saskatchewan's own Brett Jones and Brendan Labatte on their CFL awards last night.
|Thanks all for the suggestions re cleaning stainless steel. I think I will go with the wipes for stainless steel!LOL Seems the easiest and most cost-effective! I'm all about easy when it comes to cleaning!LOL|
re: Stainless Steel Cleaner: there is a product called the ultimate cloth(sold online or the shopping channel) that will clean stainless steel, streak free, with just water. You wet the cloth, wring it and start wiping. I have been using these cloths for three years now to clean everything to great effect. Especially good for stainless and mirrors!
RE: Hailey. I am not surprised by her decision to take her own life when it is time. Given the scenario in her head of how she will forget who she is and go back to Harold, the urgency to have Roy understand seems clear. What a horrible scenario she is creating in her mind for her last days if she doesnt end it on her own. I fully support her decision and understand her frustration that Roy is not supporting her. That being said, I am sure it is very hard for Roy to accept but at the end of the day Hailey must be able to choose how to leave this world especially in her circumstance.
Someone said it might be a good idea for Roy to suggest a double suicide. He |
was looking pretty sad when he said that one sock is no good without the other.
Hearing that idea from Roy might make Hailey think twice about suicide.
|Monique: You took the words right out of my mouth! Very well said, and I didn't like Jane either! Poor Hailey. Poor Roy. Not looking forward to her demise.|
I didn't like Jane either but what matters was that she made Hayley happy.|
I feel for Roy as he wants to keep Hayley with him for as long as he can and he was doing very well in supporting her before she sprang this suicide idea on him. Plus I agree that it was bad timing on her part to spring that on him right after the beautiful Blackpool trip and it took away from the whole purpose of the trip. She should have waited a while and broken it to him more gently. She seemed shocked by his reaction as if she expected him to feel the same way about it as she did. But that being said she is the one who is dying and facing possible pain so it should be her decision as to how she wants to go and her husband should eventually start supporting her. She may be acting a bit selfish, but how selfish might we become if faced with the horror of contemplating our own demise? I can't think of anything worse to endure.
|Regarding Roy & Hailey's "the Woody" manual transmission car think it was Roy who insisted on that particular brand because like his obsession with trains it has ties with his past. More likely someone on the crew is a antique car collector and could provide this unique model. It must be a treat for any car buff fans to see it now and then.|
Gail: I didn't like Jane either - and neither did Roy - but we don't always like a |
partner's friends. Jane's death will get Hailey thinking even more about how
she's going to go. I suppose it's natural for someone in Hailey's situation to take
things out on the spouse but I feel sorry for Roy these days.
I usually boil my sweet potatoes in a small amount of water and then mash them with some butter and add a spoonful of sour cream. I read that the rounder the sweet potato the less fibrous (stringy) it will be. Last time I bought them I got the roundest ones I could find and sure enough, it was true. For my stainless steel appliances, I use a spray called Gleem which I got at Walmart. It works quite well but I'm going to give some of those other suggestions a try. |
I also don't like the selfish way Hayley is treating Roy and I don't understand how she got so friendly and devoted to Jane in such a short time, other than the fact they were in the same situation. I realize though that it was all part of driving the plot forward and making Hayley come to some decisions about her own death. I didn't care for Jane at all. She was just far too familiar considering she really didn't know Roy and Hayley well.
Excellent point Haili, |
I hope Roy reads your post and throws it back in her face that she went to the factory first!
Sometimes I think I'm on the wrong forum! Corrie must be dull lately.|
Shirley: the way Hailey is acting, she'll be blaming Roy for not seeing her
friend before she died. Of course she could have gone straight to the hospital
instead of the factory but she still would have been too late.
My daughter uses Windex on her stainless steel appliances. I got white ones
so I don't have that problem.
I just buy sweet potato fries and bake them in the oven. I bake squash with a
squeeze of lemon and a pat of butter.
A few months ago, on the news, they said hardly anyone buys a standard tranny car anymore so some manufacturers stop making them so why would Hayley expect Roy to drive a car that requires so much thought when she knows he can't handle so much thought process all at once.
If the general population doesn't want to drive a standard tranny car then why should she expect Roy to do so?
She's turned into a bully.
If Becky would have smashed up the car with Slug when they stole it, then she would have done Roy a favour.
Off Tropics ***|
Thank you Nancy and Shirley.
I peel them and cut them into slices, then into half or 1/4 pieces and steam them with a folding strainer at the bottom of the pot with the cover on.
I only cook them for 10 minutes maximum
then I drain most of the water and leave a bit
then I remove the bottom strainer
then I mash them.
I will test the cooking with half cut pieces with the skin on method.
I don't think I will be able to cook as much at once though.
|OFF TOPIC I like to boil my sweet potatoes with only an inch or 2 of water so that they mostly steam cook ( faster)with the lid on of course. Then drain off the water and cool enough that you can handle them. I usually use a 2 tined fork and use a knife to slip the skins off and then I cut off any woody parts, black marks, etc. Then I cut them in cubes, put them in a casserole dish, add a couple of tablespoons of frozen orange juice, maybe a smidge of brown sugar and some margarine and put in the oven ( or maybe a minute + in the microwave) at moderate ( 300 - 350 temp preheated) for a few minutes. SPOILER I wonder if Hayley will express her annoyance at Roy for keeping her from seeing her friend the day before as she had wished to do.|
Frank - I remember that game well, like it was yesterday. I watched it in black and white. Without looking it up, I think it was 1955 or 56. Then Man. City won it the next year over Birmingham. When Man. C, goalie Tautman broke his neck.|
But alas, back to discussing sweet potatoes and stainless steel cleaners. :-( Just kidding :-)
|Terry M- I'm so happy that the writers provided you with such a wonderful and unexpected surprise. My beloved "Magpies" won the FA CUP the year I was born. 3-1 over "CITY". Now,if they could just win something again.|
|Hey Mark. I don't peel my sweet potatoes when I boil them. I cut them in half and boil them skins on. Drain the water and let them cool a little The skins slide off them (hot, hot, hot, but easier than peeling) if you cut into them with a knife or just push down on them with the masher till the skin separates from the flesh. Don't know about spots. I mash them with butter and sherry or butter and madeira or butter and rum. I love mashed sweet potatoes with dark rum....|
|Believe it or not old fashioned baby oil on a soft cloth works great on stainless steel. I saw it on a Brit show(The Perfect Housewife). It's cheap and because you put it on babies, it is not toxic. Clean the appliance with whatever. The put a bit on a soft cloth and rub it on. Buff gently. It helps keep prints off for a nice while. Try it.|
I didn't like Todd's jacket last night.|
It's way too tight, and I can't comprehend why anyone would buy a jacket that you can't put a sweater underneath it.
It makes no sense.
As for the stainless steel problems listed below...
I'm still waiting for Target to put a white microwave on their shelves to match the white demo model they have
but they have tons of stainless steel ones on the shelves
but sold out of the white ones.
Meanwhile I have to warm everything up in a sauce pan.
Haili I too wondered why didn't Hailey just drive?|
And why try to teach Roy such a complex task when an automatic car would be easier for him.
Roy is a caricature of Aspergics.
Off tropics: A questions of Sweet potato...
Does anyone else boil or steam sweet potato chunks?
Do your sweet potato get full of black and green spots?
Are those dark and green spots safe to eat?
After you peel the red skin, some of sweet potato chunks have a white layer underneath the red skin.
Do you peel the white skin too?
I don't want to bake them because it's too much work and messy and I want to eat them mashed and I like to make portions of mashed sweet potato to take with me in containers and I don't have time to bake them at noon.
Did Todd know that Nick owned the Bistro? Maybe it wasn't open the last time
he came for a visit, either that or he's quite an optimist to think he'd be hired.
Hailey really is getting cranky these days. If she was in that big a hurry she
could have done the driving.
Steve is being made to look like a clown or an idiot again and he's not that
stupid - or never used to be. I hate what the writers have done to him, Gail
Lisa: Thanks, I will try those! I did use warm water and Mr. Clean, but there are still a few smudges.|
Julie: I know what you mean - with the "grain" of the SS.
Hey Jude my daughter was cleaning houses once and suggested I buy |
Stainless Steel wipes so I bought Weiman and am happy with that. Any wipes
would work well.
Hey Jude: Wash with the lines and not all over the |
Terry M:I thought that too when I heard Steve recite the final |
score..Sunderland supporter indeed!
Hey Jude: Use a small amount of dish soap in a sink full of
warm water with a soft cloth. After that use glass cleaner but
diluted on a soft cloth too. Wash with lines not all over the
place but that probably goes without saying.
|Pearl: I had time on my hands today too! Put anti-slip strips on the last 5 of my front stairs - all 17 of them (pressure treated wood).LOL! Huge job! Then I cleaned the outside and bottom drawer of my stove - it's not working and Trail Appliances will be coming in a few days to fix it. Anyone know what is a good cleaner for stainless steel appliances?|
|Had some time on my hands this afternoon so looked up the list of current CS writers; of the 17 listed, 8 are women so almost 50/50. SPOILER ALERT *** Also learned that Todd is not the only family member to turn up on Grinshaw's doorstep.|
How could tonight's episode in Canada remind me of one of the happiest days of my life?|
Well, Liz mentions that Steve knows the history of soccer and could tell you, as an example, who scored the winning goal in the 1973 F.A. Cup final.
Well, so can I, because, it was one of the happiest days of my life.
In one of the biggest upsets in F.A. Cup history, Second Division Sunderland defeated (then) mighty Leeds United 1-0. On a goal by the late great Ian Porterfield.
One of the Corrie writers must be a Sunderland fan. :-)
ITV have a job opening that looks interesting: Production Assistant on Coronation Street.
Quote: This role is to help facilitate the smooth running of the production. Reporting to the Production Manager you will be responsible for the printing, scanning and distribution of various production documents including but not limited to continuity reports, call sheets, risk assessments, scripts and camera plans. You will update production boards with latest schedules, memos, cast and crew information and give the weekly calls to the cast.
As much as I don't like the Grace character I can put up
with her because she's only going to be a temporary edition
(I think). I have no problems with new short term
individuals arriving, wreaking havoc or murder lol and then
leaving. I do have an issue with people getting complete
personality transplants just to spice up the s c r i p t.
Bring in the temps for a few months, they did it very
successfully with Lewis.|
I think Grace comes from a very well to do family. You get a sense of it with the way she dresses and speaks and Faye is just totally taken in by this. What's a posh girl like her doing with a backstreet kid like me.
Hashtags are trending topics on twitter. Roy and Hayley have a hashtag circulating as I noticed it last week. I'm quite famous on twitter as my daughter regularly quotes the things I say under #Stupid stuff my Mom says. That's as famous as I'm ever going to be..Boo hoo..lol
Anna does my head in a lot with her yelling and nagging and Hailey is |
expecting too much of Roy all of a sudden IMO. She took an happy time after
Blackpool and ruined it with her talk of suicide. If that was what she wanted
she could have waited and led up to it gently and gradually.
I can see Owen being the authority figure if Anna was not available but she
was and should be the one to give permission to Faye for the concert, not
As for the writing lately, I find Todd's personality change too abrupt and
extreme. Sally going out with Tim and being treated like a door mat doesn't
ring true for me either.
Isn't a hashtag something you use on Twitter? I had to look it up and to me it
was always the number sign.
Hi Leah, Agree with both your posts as 8:55 and 15:44. Anna and Owen have been living common law for two years now which makes them a couple in legal terms. Owen may have come on too strong with Faye at the begining of their relationship but now they are a stable family unit. Also Anna is too needy of Faye's favor to see that Grace is not a good role model for her. I too wonder what Grace's parents must be like. If we are ever to meet them, at least one must be horrible to make or let Grace act like she does.|
David Neilson (Roy) is certainly giving full range of his acting talent. This story of Hailey's illness is buiding layer and layer of emotions of the people involved, even those characters who are friends of either or both principals. I like that Anna was the one who broke through Roy's wall of denile that he needs help dealing with Hailey's impending death. It gives an other demention to her character and as she said she did experience Gary's pts.
|Leah - meant to add - I think hashtags are little signs you type before a phrase or something which will help in identifying it if someone does a search on the topic. I'm not precisely clear how it works but something along those lines. I can't imagine using it in conversation - your friends probably go home and check the dictionary for hashtags and if it's an old one it might not have it so they will think you are really clever. lol|
Leah - You beat me to it. I too think that if you are in a relationship there should be joint parenting with each supporting the other's decision. If you are not prepared to allow your partner to discipline your children you should not be living with them.|
Todd is being horrible - we already have Grace, David, Tracy and Fay as horrible characters - we don't need another.
Hayley is also doing my head in with her insistence that Roy sees it her way and Anna was doing my head in with her nagging Roy last epi. Can we have some happy, please writers. We need a break from all this depressing stuff.
|P.S. My new most annoying speech habit is inserting the word 'hashtag' into the conversation--partly because I don't know what it means and partly because even if I did know it would sound stupid. Those CAMH commercials in which it is said before every other word have to go! Man they bug me.|
|I know this opinion might put me into the minority, but here goes. I really think Owen's position in the household should be respected by Faye. With the shocking rate of divorces we now face, there are a shocking number of kids growing up believing that they only have to listen to the 'real' parent. And we probably have a shocking number of step-parents or people acting 'in loco parentis' who feel their opinions don't matter in their own homes. Then we wonder why kids today seem spoiled and entitled. I think ground rules should be set out from the beginning. Perhaps decisions should be made by both adults, their opinions sharing equal weight. There will also be times when the 'real' parent is not present and the step-parent will have to take control. I just don't think it works to have the adults in the family played off against each other by the kids, as Faye is doing with Anna and Owen. As soon as Anna knew Owen had said no, she should have backed him up or at least discussed his reasons with him. Then they could have decided together. *SPOILER* Faye might soon discover that getting her own way all the time because of Anna's weakness is not the best thing for her.|
I find the writing lately to be abysmal. As mentioned, repetitive and if I may say, down right stupid. Todd is not a good actor IMO and we appear to have another David like character. Arrrrr -- no thanks.|
Roy is being a jerk. I have much experience with the repetitive Asperbergers like behaviour in my life (my best friend is intensely this way- never can deviate from a routine or life becomes very hard). In my case, I have been very ill in the last 2 years, and like Roy, he had a hard time with the hospital but outside the hospital in his own world, he was unbelievable. I was shocked how well he rose to the occasion. Another friend had to do the hospital stuff but my Asp. friend was stellar and very supportive. They know illness and being a bit lost so there is some empathy when they are capable IMO. Maybe Roy is just incapable at this time in Haley's illness.
It is a shame that Roy cannot be a bit more on side with Haley. In fact, I find it almost out of character for him not to be supportive of her. I understand his dilemma but I always found Roy able to at least see the other person's POV but in this case he seems to have no compassion for Haley's dying wish. Now, if we look at this way, what kind of jerk denies his wife her dying wishes, even if he disagrees? So is Roy going to turn into an obstinate jerk who would deny his wife support at the end when she needs it? I hope not, Roy has his quirks but he usually sees the logic when considering options.
I do not mean to offend any gender but I wonder if most of the writers are men. As a woman, I do not know how well I could "think like a man" to write from a male perspective. I find some of the plots to be so out of whack that there must not be enough other perspectives when throwing ideas out around the writers room. I think many women would have put the kibosh on all these young girls and baby lust, it does not ring true for many young women these days. The word "continuity" comes to mind. Many productions have a person devoted to this so errors and big changes are detected before the viewers see it and get irate. And Tracy so one dimensional evil -- come on, is this the best a team of writers can do? Bringing back Todd, why? a secret life in London and he turned 180 degrees in personality? Again, come on, people change but unless he got knocked on the head his fundamental character was set before he went away. Are we going to find out he changed because he had a secret life as a gay escort and now he is in hiding because of ???? -- Whatever they do, the writers could not have made it easier to not give a darn about Todd or Eileen. I am not interested in another brat on the street or his past secrets.
END OF RANT
In the find Canadian tradition, I feel it may be time to write a sharply worded letter to the writers and producers expressing my dismay at the lack of originality in plots and they best perk things up and get some new writers who have seen the show and know the characters and know not to change them so drastically. (just kidding-- Cdn outrage= letter to offender-- we are a fierce people :-))
|I am losing patience with Roy. I thought for God's let someone help you with that horrid wallpaper! It was very kind of Gary and Owen to finish the room for Hailey. Owen had no business telling Faye she couldn't go to the concert - he is not her father! But if I were Anna I wouldn't have let her go (not on a school night) Why is Michelle back and so miserable? What is wrong with Steve helping his daughter with her school project? That is what parent's do - her mother certainly doesn't give her any attention. I'm not liking the new Todd he is a manipulative liar.|
|Talking about ladders, yikes, a friend of mine recently fell off a ladder while decorating a 12' tree. I don't know why she tried to do that with no one else around but she did, and ended up falling off the ladder and breaking an arm and her tailbone! Someone else I knew in Alberta also fell off his ladder trying to string lights up and around his pergola. He fell and broke a leg - crazy, crazy people out there!LOL I guess that's a case of some people thinking falling off a ladder will never happen to them.|
I wondered why Anna was apologizing to Owen for undermining him. Owen
should have told Faye to ask her mother about going out. He's not her dad and it
should be Anna's decision, not his. Of course Faye always gets her own way with
Anna so she should have known enough to ask her instead of Owen.
Every time I see that wallpaper I'm going to picture Hailey looking at it, then
turning away to die.
|Just wondering who is the authority figure in Faye's life. Anna indulges her. Owen could be an authority figure if Anna didn't go behind his back and indulge her. Tim is her real dad but he can't be trusted to do anything. No wonder the girl is going astray and getting involved with a little creep like Grace. Of course Faye is only slightly less creepy than Grace because there's no one in her life who cares enough about her to discipline her. Heaven knows what Grace's parents are like.|
|Teri: Along with the thought, "If I fall, I know for sure I won't bounce!" Scary!!!|
Joanne: so identify with your ladder reference esp for replacing lights in high |
fixtures; at the bottom - I think 'I can do this' , but at the top - it's 'what the H
was I thinking' !!
For the first time that I can remember Gary showed some human |
kindness as he helped paper Roy's room. No sign he suspected
subterfuge, plots or underhandedness. Way out of character.
|Poor Nick, trying to come back to work too early after his brain injury. It seems prolonged noise is too much for him, among other things. Thanks for the holiday look to this site.|
Leah: LOL at the Oscar Wilde quote. It's rarely a good idea for a man to surprise |
the wife with new decor that she hasn't chosen herself. I'm losing patience with
Hailey lately because she expects Roy to go along with the suicide. She should
never have told him IMO though it's hard to know what anyone would do under
I hope Todd goes back to his old personality soon.
As for Faye, she always gets her own way.
Pearl and Hey Jude, strange as it may seem, Corrie scenes are purposely shot out of sequence. This is to do with logistics: availability of actors, indoor sets, outdoor sets, camera crews, etc. Scheduling filming must be a nightmare.
I read an interview once with Michael LeVell (Kevin Webster) about the sometimes unusual things we see on screen. The example he gave was a storyline where Kevin got into an argy-bargy with another character, then in a subsequent episode he apologized. But, they had to film the apology scenes first before they had filmed the argument scenes. Michael said it was difficult to figure out how apologetic to be when Kevin hadn't had the argument yet. He didn't know whether he had been threatening and had yelled at the other character or whether it was less heated.
We have all noticed that Tina's skin colour can sometimes be more orange than at other times. I've noticed that it can change even in a single episode and on the same film set. Also, there was an episode a while ago where StevieMac wore a funny hat whilst seated in Streetcars. The reason was that Simon Gregson had received a hair-cut, but Steve's hair was longer in subsequent episodes which had already been filmed for the storyline he was in.
It's a funny old world in Corrie land. ☺
|Sorry, but I just can't help it. Hayley's reaction to the new décor reminded me of the (perhaps apocryphal) story of Oscar Wilde on his death bed i.e. that his last words were, "Either that wallpaper goes or I do."|
|Pearl: I thought for sure Eileen had had a cut and perm, and I was so surprised when I saw her on Monday, as you say, back to her old hair style! Strange!LOL|
|Last night's epi was rather disheartening with all the argy bargy going on in the pub, bistro and at #11. I did notice that Eileen who apeared to have had a hair cut or at least styled shorter on Friday, was back to her usual floppy around the face bleached out blond last night. Wonder if we see her in tonight's episode what hair style she will have. Maybe the shooting sequence or viewing sequence got mixed.|
Gail: I noticed the crazy, hooped earrings too, but I also think they've got to be very light.|
The wallpaper I had to scrape off was almost fabric-like - a yukky green plaid and the paper was really thick and heavy. Thank God it was in a small galley kitchen, but it was still a lot of work scraping it all off, then washing the walls repeatedly to get all the glue off - uggh!! Never again!LOL
Gail: how could we miss those huge earrings? I always wondered about the lobes |
being stretched out but they must be lighter than they look.
I wish I'd known about those wallpaper removal products but removing the
heavy embossed paper was easier than scraping and scrubbing the paste off the
walls in this house. The sprayed on ceiling in one of the bedrooms had been
painted purple and it took 4 coats of paint to cover it. Every time I hear a
decorator suggest a dark ceiling, I think of that chore.
I'm another who hates wallpaper. I did put it in our house in a few rooms back when our house was new many years ago, but will NEVER use it again. I did find a great tool for removing it called a Paper Tiger. It has little blades that score the wallpaper all up when you swirl it around on the walls, then you roll on a blue solution called Dif Gel, let it sit for about 3-5 minutes and the paper comes right off the wall in huge pieces, nothing left behind. I was struggling with it until I found that stuff and then it was off in no time with no effort.|
Back on topic, did anyone notice those massive huge hoops earrings that Kylie was wearing when she went in to work at the Bistro? OMG, they were ridiculously huge and just looked so cheap and tacky! I wish Tina wouldn't wear those cheap looking huge earrings too. They pull her ears lobes down and stretch them out. They actually look painful! I read that Michelle Keegan wants to keep Tina's earrings as a memento of her!
Off topic Another reason why I always used English-made wallpaper when I did is because it was also very easy to strip off ... well, it was labelled "dry-strippable". Took a little preliminary work but, basically, once you got a grip on an edge, it all came off quite well. Perhaps that has changed, too, since then; most everything has. In any case, whatever suits one person doesn't necessarily suit another.|
Haven't used wallpaper here, because this house has lots of windows, archways and short walls ... would be too "cut-up" to look half-way decent. As well, of course, I don't have the mobility anymore! Up and down a ladder wouldn't do me any favours. Tough enough changing lightbulbs for the ceiling fans ... can't imagine wallpapering again! Age has its own price!
I haven't missed Gary and Izzy at all, don't care where they went and would be |
just as happy if they stayed away. They were over-used in all that surrogate
story line that went on far too long. Also, that longing for a baby stuff has been
overdone IMO and we're going to get more of it from Julie, I fear.
I also wonder why Eileen is so broke when she gets room and board from Sean
and Jason plus her wages and had Paul contributing too until recently. It's just a
show - I know!
Plaid Cat: Someone else and myself mentioned that the other day - haven't seen them in ages - but I don't really mind as I can't stand Gary! As far as I know they are still supposed to be on the street, we just haven't seen them. But then we haven't seen a few others for a while either, like Emily and Norris and Amy, although I think I did catch a glimpse of her at that Halloween party.|
I also detest wallpaper. In my first apartment it took me ages to get it off the walls and the walls were plaster over concrete - talk about a workout. I would never use wallpaper ever again. Haili, as you said paint is so much easier and relatively cheap in comparison.
|Excuse me if this has already been addressed, my computer is having a hard time navigating this site today. But I quit watching for about two weeks back when Tina was going through this " I want the baby" mood. But last night when Anna was talking to Roy, she mentioned Gary. I then realized I have not seen Issy , Gary and the baby for awhile. Did they go someplace.?|
I hate the loud pattered wallpaper too and decorators here are using some |
ugly rugs these days. Colin and Justin in the Star just love loud colours and
the patterns that seem to be popular in Britain but not here with most people,
thank goodness. I spent so long stripping wallpaper and washing paste off the
walls in this house that I never want to use it again. I don't think they
decorate as often over there but could be wrong. When I was younger I was
always painting rooms just for a change but paint was much cheaper then -
and I had more energy.
Corrie has enough mean characters so I hope that Todd isn't another one. He
was pretty unfair with that tirade against Eileen, though she did love to brag
|Joanne, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Maybe some people actually like those huge flowers and diamond patterns in their wallpaper. I don't, but maybe... Watching Roy do that job reminded me of what a pain it was to remove the wallpaper when we switched to paint. Thank heaven wallpaper isn't that popular now.|
Lynn: All I kept saying last night was, "Sally, stop crawling! Where's your pride?". All that grinning and begging ... ugh. Surely she can see that "Tim" really doesn't care that much about her and never did ... she's just "useful" to him. Have to agree about the recent story lines ... too much repetition, re-told plots, predictable dialogue ... the writers seem to be in a rut. Don't like "Todd" ... new or old version ... he's just another "David", blaming everyone for his troubles and problems.|
Mark: That went through my mind, too! 'Roy" is right, though ... that room is drab.
I have a question, sort of on topic. Can't help but notice the truly dreadful wallpaper in some (not all) of the houses on the Street. Now when I used to use wallpaper for decorating, I always bought English-made, because the pre-pasted was so easy to use, the material was very sturdy, didn't tear and could be easily moved to line-up the pattern and, importantly, the designs were lovely and easy on the eye. What changed? Am I so much out-of-date?
|Terry M & Lynn- wonderful comparisons involving both Basil and Hyacinth. I couldn't agree more. Several years ago I read an interview with John Savident:"Fred Elliott". He said he got the idea for using the repetitive speech pattern,from watching the American rooster "Foghorn Leghorn".|
"So that's two eggs mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Herman Goering and four Colditz salads." Actually, I was wondering how Nick could do a goose step with that cane. |
Might be out of circulation for the next couple of days. I bought seasons 1-5 of George Gently and have only watched the first episode of season 1 so far. His wife was killed in the first couple of minutes. Not much of an acting job for her. Did we start with season 5 on PBS or were the earlier ones on as well and I just missed them? Luckily, it's going to rain in T.O. Thursday and Friday.
I would stay on topic and talk more about Corrie but, as Lynn said, it's just been to blah lately to bother.
|Yes Lynn, I LOVED Monty Python back in the day when they were much younger, not sure it's really going to fly and be a hit now. IMHO they should really stop while they are ahead!LOL :)|
Don't mention the war -- ha ha -- I have not been watching close enough to notice the similarities. I must do that. Please, please hire a waiter sort or Manuel like-- that would be good. |
And speaking of Monty Python and the guys in it; the news was reporting they are getting together for a reunion. I am not so sure considering some of the rivalries. I saw John Cleese a month or so ago in "The last tour before I die" it was pretty good but one can detect some bitterness and lingering issues -- Eric Idle is not to mentioned, much like the war :-).
I am finding the plots and writing just too blah to watch.|
Todd from sensitive tortured young man to evil lying SOB? So now we are going to have to sit through the drawn out story of why is has turned into a lying whatever he is now. Do people change that much? Speaking of change, when did Sally lose her mind?
I have never loved Sally for her Hyacinth like trying to be better than others but when did she totally give up on life and settle for Tim? Sheesh -- I must have missed the episodes where Sally decided to abandon all hope for a better man and better life. It is not like her to settle for a dullard and creep like Tim. Kevin was no prize IMO and she has always wanted better things so Tim is too out of character for her IMO.
The writers and producer should be read the riot act for the repetitive story lines (so many evil characters) and told to watch the old episodes to see what the character is like through the years. Anything less is cheating the viewer. Talking to you Mr. Blackburn (he is the producer n'est pas?).
Julie - Yes, don't mention the war, I did once, but I think I got away with it. :-)|
Put a bandage on Nick's head and he'll be Basil's double.
I wonder if he can do the goose step ? :-)
Mark: It's OK for David to hate Nick but not OK to wreck his apartment, try to |
ruin his business and marriage and almost kill him. Leanne just didn't want to
hire Kylie and why should she when she could hire someone else?
|Terry: OMG, I just saw that skit last week! I had never seen it before and LMAO!LOL And yes, Nick did remind me of Basil Fawlty!LOL Too funny!lOL|
|Terry M: DON'T MENTION THE WAR!|
|At the Bistro, Nick is resembling Basil Fawlty. All he needs now is a group of German customers.|
joanne, I kept wondering if Roy would find a big patch of mould behind the wallpaper - LOL.|
Why didn't Roy just wallpaper over the wallpaper like the owners before him?
Tim is suffering from Amnesia like the time he left Faye on her own for days.
So it's ok for Leanne to hate Kylie but not for David to hate his brother?
Genderized double standard again.
Liz's return wasn't as bad as I expected it to be.
I'm just glad Steve and Lloyd aren't around as much.
If someone had slept with my husband, I'd be vile to her too - and I certainly
wouldn't hire her - but they're a forgiving lot on Corrie and all drink and work
Todd was talking to Eileen much like David talks to Gail. When things don't
work out - blame the mother - it's much easier than taking responsibility for
their own lives.
Anna always gets on my nerves and just won't let up on Roy. She should mind
her own business and let him get on with things. Her constant nagging and
harangue would get on anyone's nerves. Tim had a lot of nerve too. How soon
he forgets all the times he left Faye alone.
Talk about being pipped to the post.|
Sheila: I was just about to thank you for the Christmas decorations and ask if could do mine for me at home. I guess not!...LOL
Thanks, Chris, for the explanation - and there are a few other
words - many of the more commonly xx'd out ones included!|
As well, thanks to Chris, Frank and HeyJude for letting me know you like the decorations. If only they were as easy to put up at home!
Hi Rachel - here is some information from the FAQ's:
Why can't I use the word "S cript" in my posts?
The Guestbook is set up to allow HTML (a programming language for webpages) in the posts. Without it, you couldn't post images, links or emoticons. However, that can set us up for malicious people to try to insert a s cript to change what the Guestbook does. To combat this, we alter the word "s cript" so that it doesn't get read by the programming. To work around it, use the word scripts, or type a space somewhere in the word. The readers will figure it out!
A couple of other words that I think are automatically modified are: "c asino" and "p oker". Not sure if there are any others.
|Wondering where they'll take the storyline for David next? It's crummy another family dynamic has been disrupted. No " happy families" likely hardly on this street, eh?|
|By the by, the S****t word was supposed to be s-c-r-I-p-t. The astericks that were replacing the letters don't even add up to what word it thought I was typing!|
|Thanks Leah - I didn't want to sound like a total naysayer but I wish they'd bring back the writers of Mike Baldwin or that piece of dirt that Gail married then tried to drown the whole family - days. The "Grace" storyline is also just filler unless they're trying to teach a lesson about bullying. But then again, gotta remember that it's only a show and the people on the street have done the most outrageous and somewhat vile things to each other, yet in the end, it's "hey, let's meet up in the Rovers, snipe at each other a bit, hug it out, then move on because I love ya, man!" With Todd's personality change in the s****t, does that mean Sally also had a major personality change too? But, it's hard to just not watch it after 20-some years - that's the kicker!|
SPOILER: According to news reports, Dev and Stella attended Crown court yesterday where Karl was sentenced to twenty-five years in the big house for causing the deaths of Sunita and Toni.
Thanks Sheila for the Christmassy effect on the GB. ☺
Welcome to the GB Rachel, Sorry but I disagree with you and Leah re Todd's aparent personality change. His former 'nice' self was totally forgetable once he left, didn't miss him at all. For thePTB to bring him back he had to be made more interesting. 0MNI SPOILER - Agree that Alex was incredibly pushy but his visit did gave us an instant update on Todd's life from the past 6 years. Maybe with Todd as 'resident Bad Boy' David can be rehabilitated to stable family man.|
How vile is Leanne? She must judge Kylie by her own standards to call her tramp when she spoke to her in the cafe. Maybe Kylie could revamp her nail service and Audrey will hire her at the salon.
|Even if Kylie received maternity benefits she would get more money working.|
Daphne: Law and Order UK has just started its new series here as of 2-3 weeks ago. It was on last night (Monday), in fact, 10 p.m. my time on "City TV" (local station).|
Prior to that, it was on for weeks of re-runs, so perhaps the new series will start up your way before long. I love the show ... not mad about "Toyah" in her character on it. She seems (a) too young to be so far on in the legal profession; she hasn't aged a scrap since leaving Corrie, and, (b) a bit smart-ass, snippy, and know-it-all, but perhaps that's just me. Loved Bradley Walsh as "Danny Baldwin" and like him even more as the lead detective in Law and Order UK.
Gayle: Yes, there are maternity benefits in the UK, but other than that I don't know the extent or details.
Gayle: More: See above for Law and Order UK. I'm enjoying the new series very much ... I think it's better than the US version ... more down to earth and realistic, and much more subtle. As well, much seems to be located in Hackney, Homerton, Leyton, Stoke Newington and Islington, among other places, and I grew up in Clapton, a district within a bus ride of all those places (used to go dancing Saturday nights at the Hackney Town Hall, and the Hackney library was the one closest to my home before I moved out), so am always (futilely) trying to recognise landmarks. Of course, after 58 years, nothing is as it was!
Frank - I'll take that anchor - we need all the weight we can to keep that vile child underwater. |
That was a good game Sunday. Grey Cup fever is making Regina just an insane place to be - little parades, tents, and more people than they have rooms for and hotels 2-3 hours away are booked solid. 45,000 tickets all gone too. I wouldn't want to go to the outdoor events this week (indoor either but that is a different animal) because it's going to be COLD but warm up on Sunday.
This morning, the talk radio guys have been talking to Don Narcisse, Roger Aldag, and I am sure I've missed many more. Oddly, they ALL still live here regardless of where they came from although Narcisse just moved back a few years ago. SaskTel even got George Reed (who also retired here) to do a commercial that ran for a couple of weeks; would guess it is going to be changed this week.
Back to Corrie
Sign up here to help drown Grace!!!!!!! She was even worse last night.
Sally must have gotten a prescription for super heavy duty stupid pills. I have never seen her act this dumb before - besotted, yes but never to the point of stupidity like she is now. BLECH!!!!!! Cannot bear to watch her stupidity and desperation.
Gayle - I like Law and Order UK too but seem to have been seeing re-runs over and over for a long time - however I haven't seen Toya so far, so maybe there is a treat in store.|
kls and Frank - GO CATS GO. :-)
|Rachel, how right you are. I just don't see Todd as an evil character and am not looking forward to the upcoming shows. Like you said, I believe the writers have reached a point where they don't know what else to do to surprise the viewers. We've all been watching so long we're not surprised by much. I also wonder why Todd is bothering to lie to Eileen and Jason. He must know by now that on Corrie the truth eventually hits the fan. Of course he doesn't know that rude Alex has already told them the truth. Maybe Eileen and Jason should just say to Todd's face that they know he's lying.|
|Yes, writing from "Rob Ford" land...! How is it fathomable that the writers think that Sally, or sorry, her character would EVER be with a person like Faye's father? Given her past history of "having to have the best" - this is a far sweep the other way! Also, bringing Todd back as an evil person? Us long time watchers, well me, at least, are left scratching our heads. I think they're losing steam big time and the scenarios are just getting too ridiculous. For me anyways. Can't some of the past writers be brought back to breathe "new" real life into the show? Have a good day, everyone!|
Does anyone here watch Law & Order U.K.? I am a huge fan of the original series from the states and am loving the U.K. version. Two former Corrie actors star in it - "Danny Baldwin" plays the lead detective and "Toya Battersby" has just joined as a member of the Crown Prosecuting Team. They are both excellent!|
Does anyone know are there maternity benefits available in the U.K.? Kylie was saying she wanted to go back to work isn't Lilly only a month or two old? We can guess who will be stuck babysitting!
I enjoyed the little exchange between Eileen and Gail in the shop, each bragging |
about their kids. Gail and Sarah write letters to each other; that's why we don't
hear them on the phone!
I agree re. Todd's ex-boyfriend. He was rude and nasty to Eileen and Jason
even when they said they hadn't seen Todd and knew nothing about him or
any break up. It was good that Jason told him to leave. I'm afraid they're going
to turn Todd into another nasty person when he used to be kind of nice.
I also think Roy is using the bedroom re-decorating to avoid Hailey and I can't
blame him for that. He doesn't want to think about or be involved with her
suicide when even her death is hard enough to consider.
Grace is nasty but more interesting than Faye IMO. Faye just pouts and gets
her own way with Anna but Grace plots and schemes.
Unless Kylie and Eva have new nicer personalities, Leanne should still watch
her back. Maybe they have become decent - but maybe not.
Sorry, forgot to add this. Todd's ex-boyfriend had a lot of nerve and very little in the way of manners, barging in and shouting the odds when Eileen and Jason were trying to tell him Todd wasn't there. Do hope he's not going to be another loud-mouth bully added to the Street ... there are enough of them right now.|
The actor playing Nick is doing a terrific job ... very realistic and believable.
|SPOILER Anna trying to be helpful seems to have overshot again unless all she did was clean up. Maybe Roy wanted more to do so he had the excuse not to see Hayley and deal with " the problem" he won't deal with to suit her.|
Add me to the Can't Stand Grace team. What a thoroughly deceitful and nasty child she is! I hope she'll be off the Street before too long.|
Agree re: Kylie. She's being very understanding about Nick. Understand why Leanne has a hate on about her, but Kylie didn't do it all by herself, and Leanne's past doesn't bear too close a scrutiny. As has been said, given the slightest encouragement from Peter and she'd have been back with him and the devil take Nick on their wedding day.
What was that dreadful grey background on the wall behind the equally dreadful wallpaper that Roy was tearing off? I always thought houses of that age were BDW (before drywall) and had plaster walls, but that looked like concrete.
|Frank: Aren't we just full of the joys of the season..lol|
|KLS & Julie- I have an anchor,I'll gladly donate to the cause. KLS- how about those "RIDERS"? GO TEAM GO!|
Kls: I love kids but I'm in for the Grace drowning as soon as |
you give me the nod!
RE: IP addresses. The only way you can have a static IP is if you connect through a LAN (local area network) and that can be traced to a specific company but not a specific user. If your IP stays the same, you will be connecting from a workplace that has a client-server computer system. |
Can we just drown Grace? She is a horrid person and is going to cause huge problems before she is finished.
I feel for Nick - been there, done that and have some long term effect such as minor balance problems, some memory loss (still hunt for words sometimes) and recurring albeit transient, dyslexia. I went through hell for 18 months relearning how to read and remember things and I, too, hunted for words. Fortunately, I was in an environment where people understood the aspects of recovering from having one's bell rung so they put up with snarky and short tempered mixed with normal seeming behaviour and a good shot of whinging added for balance. You are never the same after a brain injury - you act differently, feel differently and see the world differently.
|Sheila- Thanks for the decorations;they made my day!|
David's actions have resulted in his family disowning him. Because of that, I think David's head is so messed up with the loss of his family that he can't focus on a job search.
In the past, whenever David has messed up, he's always been forgiven and taken back into his family. But not now - David is a lost soul (assuming he has one, that is) and is wallowing in his own despair.
Hi Daphne, I agree with your point of view on Kylie regarding her treatment of Nick. She is helpful without smothering him which Gail certainly does and Leanne might. Kylie seems to have the required objectivity towards him which the other two don't have.|
Someone mentioned Simon is an unlikely person for Grace to pick on. It could have more to do with her seeing Nick as a week link yet knowing enough she would get no sympathy or support if she rattled his cage so Simon becomes her target. She is so scheming and manipulative, always looking for someone to harass just for her own pleasure.
I think Leanne is also angry because everyone knew what happened except her |
and it must feel like a conspiracy or something; it was a shock. Eva (the nasty
cow) would have done the same as Kylie so she's just as bad. It's true though,
every time Leanne sees Nick, he's with Kylie. I was sure Leanne was going to see
them through the window, hugging or something since Kylie is always putting
her arm around him or sitting on the arm of his chair.
David is supposed to be a trained hairdresser, so why doesn't he get a job
someplace else, or at least look for one?
|Haili, I think another reason for Leanne saying she wished Nick had slept with anyone other than Kylie is partly because she's part of the immediate Platt family and lives right in the Platt household so she's always there in her face as a reminder of Nick's infidelity. Leanne will think of it every time she sees her and sees Nick and Kylie anywhere near each other which will be often because Kylie also works in the Bistro. It's just so close to home for Leanne.|
Funny how we see things differently. I see Kylie as being very gentle and supportive of Nick. Maybe even more understanding and less cliche ridden than Gail. Helping and encouraging him without smothering him.|
I was glad to see both Gloria and Gail remind Leanne of her shortcomings and to see Leanne take it on board without getting bent out of shape.
David has lost his job and been kicked out of his home yet I see no sign of him attempting to find a job to support himself. I wonder how long Tina will keep him "in the manner to which he has become accustomed".
***Off Topic but Important***|
I haven't heard back from Liza yet, but this is still a good time for a basic internet safety reminder. Any of our readers who are computer experts are welcome to add to or correct anything I've posted. Liza was concerned about our IP addresses being visible. IP addresses are like the address for our internet connection. They are owned by our Internet Provider (Rogers in my case), and as such, if someone does a search on it, they will get Rogers information, not my information. In most cases, IP addresses are now dynamic - you don't keep yours forever, a new one is generated when you connect to the internet. There are privacy laws concerning information about the IP address user - I can't just call up Rogers and ask them who was using 22.214.171.124 yesterday, and get the information.
All that being said, it's up to ME to take basic precautions for MY computer's security. Make sure your anti- virus protection is current. Make sure you have a firewall up and running. Be cautious about what you click on.
One analogy I've seen is the comparison to a street address. The bad guys know that 3 Main St., Guelph exists. With a bit of work, they might even be able to find out who owns it. However, as long as I've got the doors and windows shut and locked and the alarm on, it's not easy for them to get in.
Anyone who is able to provide more accurate information for me, please do let me know. I'm very willing to learn.
TerryM: thanks for the reminder re. Eva and Kylie. They were quite nasty but |
seem to have mellowed a bit lately. Leanne needs to watch her back with those 2
around. Gloria was actually quite good with Leanne and it was great that she
reminded her of how she went to see Peter on her wedding day. I find Kylie
hovers around Nick a lot and I wouldn't trust her either.
|Sheila: Add my thanks to the others for all your hard work on this site, and for the delightful Christmas decorations. I'm not quite in the mood yet, although I have finished all my Christmas cards and letters, which is a start.|
|Sheila: Thanks for putting up the decorations, and for all you do on this Guestbook! I was in a Target store today and they have all kinds of neat Christmassy stuff out, so that, and your Christmas theme has put me in the mood for Christmas!LOL|
Liza - I've been posting on this guestbook for about fifteen years now and have never had problems with hackers or viruses.|
Only the odd troll, and none of them for some time. So, I think it's a pretty safe site.
|Haili - I can't remember all the details, but at one time before Kylie slept with Nick, she and Eva plotted to break up Nick and Leanne. They talked Nick into proposing, when they knew Leanne wasn't ready to get married and she reacted very adversely as they knew she would. Maybe someone else will remember more.|
|Thanks Diane/TVOR for reminding us of the fun gals night out shared by Liz, Deirdre & Ellen. It was indeed a contract with the Price women grim get to gether at the Bistro. Tina being part of that gathering surprised me.|
Congratulations to Chesney and good luck with the new job.|
I hope David stands up for himself this week.
Enough with the moping and Mr Nice guy act.
|Hey Jude and Liza. I also have sympathy for Rob Ford and his family. The talk-show hosts have been ruthless. Then there are the Toronto councillors who hypocritically claim they want him to 'get help' when all they really want to do is keep stabbing him while he's down. After all, many of them have been opposing him all along and they're probably enjoying his downfall. If Rob Ford ran for mayor again I might not vote for him, but I wouldn't vote for any of those vicious councillors either. Of course this comes from a cynic who no longer trusts any politician.|
|I know I'm early this year, but I thought I'd put the Christmas decorations up. I'm trying to make sure I get into the holiday spirit! Hope everyone enjoys them.|
**Off Topic** |
Liza - can you explain to me how? That's not meant to be snarky - I'm NOT an IT expert. The research I've done, and things I've dealt with in the past indicate that it's not an issue. In most cases, the IP address isn't static - so I may not have the same one tomorrow as I do today. Because this is an external IP address, it doesn't even belong to me. A WhoIs search on it will lead to my Internet provider, not to me personally. I was lead to understand that it's a bit like my street address - the bad guy might know that 37 Main Street exists, but that doesn't mean he can get in or see my stuff.
|I really liked Eileen's new hair style in the last episode - quite a change from the day before!LOL|
|Liza: I really feel sorry for Ford's family too, especially his little kids, and hope he can get himself straightened out ASAP. His political career is def down the tubes IMHO. To me, he acts like someone who's about to have a nervous breakdown. He is a very sick man.|
Tommy's in the Canary Islands. Tina's still hurling fighting words at Tracy. Tracy is upping the ante by sending her a bill for the window and even more besides but Rob thinks she's a nightmare. He stopped her once from calling the cops but he heard her call again and didn't. He figured if Tracy got a public apology, she'd be mollified. He's only worried about the business but he didn't do bad with a spot of manipulating himself, pressing Tina's Rita guilt button. |
Well, Tracy got what she wanted but Tina only "caved" because Rob said he'd give her the money to pay the damages which she didn't get in the end. Watching Tina with the bucket of water and Tracy ragging on him, I was sure Tracy would end up with a bucket of dirty water over her. I was HOPING. But when Tina found out she was used, she was all for starting up again. Rita was right. Grow up! Tracy ferreted out Rob's lies too because Tina was happy to tell her.
Now Tracy is not happy because Rob lied and she thinks she's falling in love with him. Well, Steve will be happy to hear that! Deirdre mentioned her stuffed marrow! Rob brought flowers to apologize. I wonder if he's finding a few feelings for her too or is he more concerned with the business? But really, he's got to make something of himself. You can't live on love.
Tina's still surly about Tracy too and was trying to get out of paying for the damages that she caused. Liz was right. Pay Tracy or give her the satisfaction of seeing you behind bars. It looks like Tracy isn't about to let the feud drop. I hope Rob can rein her in because I'm finding it tedious.
Nick's pushing on with his physio therapy because he doesn't want Leanne to see him still struggling and Gail actually spoke kindly to David when he asked about his family. Nick got himself so wound up over Leanne that he collapsed with a panic attack and a dizzy spell. That has only made him worse, more frustrated and confused. Everyone thinks Leanne isn't coming back but I reckon she will. And Gail is starting to get her Mummy genes back and starting to worry about David who is sure looking comfortable at Tina's, even pitching in with the housework and cooking.
Kylie's being very helpful with Nick who's surly and frustrated. Everyone tells him Leanne won't be back but guess what? She's back! Leanne didn't stay away very long. She doesn't have to stay with Stella. She's got the flat all to herself. Gail is determined that Leanne forgive Nick because she'll do anything for her baby. And after all Leanne went through to keep Simon and how she promised Simon she'd always be there for him and she's considering flying the coop without him?
Good confrontation with Leanne and David who was bafflingly drinking on a doorstep instead of in Tina's flat. It seems that Leanne is far more upset that Nick lied all those months, far more than the fling itself. I think she could forgive that on its own. I really loved the scene with David and Rita. Even though David wasn't going to tell Rita his problems, she wanted to help anyway. She might not if she knew everything he'd done and David knows that very well. Fun watching everyone trying to work out all the ins and outs of the real situation because they don't know the half of it do they?
Kylie's right. You can't guilt someone into going back, you have to wait for them to realize they love the person and will work to make it better. But Gail tried anyway and she was very good at it. Heck, I even felt guilty!I can't really blame Nick for hollering at simpering patronizing Gail but he did go a bit far and he just can't help himself.
Kylie wants to go back to work but while Leanne is there, it might not be such a good idea at the moment. Anyway, after Leanne saw Nick's state at the party she thinks she will go back to him. Gloria was the one that had the most insight. She pointed out how much Leanne was to blame for Nick's indiscretion as much as his. Well that didn't take long, did it? Leanne is back with Nick. I thought she'd make him squirm a few more weeks but I guess she's doing it for his sake, not for true forgiveness, not yet anyway. Her face certainly didn't show happy families, she's still kind of scared where it's going to end up.
Yep, Sophie's acting like a child, chucking Jenna's things around the house. I'm surprised she didn't throw it all out the window. But now Tim's been given a key and Anna and Sophie both think she's a mug.
And now Jenna seems to be having regrets about getting together with Sophie, I think, after all she gave up for her. Lloyd cheered her up immensely by telling her about all his dating disasters. It was quite funny really, seeing her laughing about Liz in the pub and pretending she was upset over her own breakup!
Grace is very adept at manipulating the adults. She's got a radar for the exact buttons to push. She caused trouble between Anna and Sally very well, in front of Tim. Faye's not really too sure about Grace is she, but she wants to be included and doesn't want to lose her new best friend. She did manage to talk Anna into having a Halloween party even though Owen is already starting to have suspicions about Grace. Grace yanked Faye's chain so the party has to be moved to Friday. She probably had that planned all along. Owen can see that Grace is the wearing the pants in that relationship.
Halloween party... disaster from the get go. Tim making empty promises for a start. Even though it's now after Halloween, I suppose the parties might still be thick on the ground the weekend after but Anna managed to find something for Faye and pretended it was from Tim the waster. Sally makes "cheap" shots. Volatile Nick takes Simon to a loud, noisy party full of sugared up kids. Sally's right. Faye did look a bit like Rosie in her Goth phase.
Grace picked right up on Nick's weakness and was absolutely vile and it went downhill from there. The noise and ruckus was getting to him, you can see it and Grace exasperated it until he blew up. Owen is starting to realize that Grace is a troublemaker and she more than proved it. Sally gave her a good going over, rightly so even if Anna with blinders on defended Grace. And after the party, Grace was so obviously sucking up. Owen mentioned he'd lost his temper plenty of times. Didn't ruin a child's party but he did smack Faye, didn't he? I wonder if Faye is realizing that Grace is not that nice after all but she's not willing to give up her BFF yet.
Peter's trying to shake things up at the factory. Employee of the month competitions, now, with 100 quid bonus that he offered without clearing it with Carla first. Now that we know Sinead can sew, can a job in the factory be far behind? Aww Beth wants to win the Employee of the month so she can get Craig something nice for Christmas. She's going to use Sinead to babysit Craig while she works. Beth is determined to win the hundred quid for the Employee of the Month award and she's persuading Sinead to sew extra for her. Blackmailing with booze, and past blackmail "All I have done for you" type things.
Girls' night out/in with Eileen, Liz and Deirdre was a scream! Even before they arrived, there was some really funny stuff with Sean, Liz and Gail! Other great bits - Deirdre cuddling Sean, explaining that she's funny and is a good cuddler, making jokes at each others' expense, singing at the bar. Love it! That's what women friends are really like out on the tiles! Meanwhile, over at the Bistro, the Price/McIntyre girls' gathering was more depressing. Barely a smile cracked at that table. Chuckled at Sean and Liz's discussion about the old series, Rich Man Poor Man. So typical that Liz would fancy the bad boy, Falconetti while Sean drooled over Nick Nolte.
Hayley's coming home from hospital next week but Roy is scared. Roy has decided to redecorate. He's going to have to get a move on if she's coming home in a few days.
Lines of the week:
Chesney "Do I look like an idiot?" (No, but you look employed at least)
Rita "I pity Amy" and "It's time to grow up, Tina!"
Liz about Rob "Oh great. Rhett Butler"
Rob "You'd rather I sat back and let you get away with murder?" Tracy "I *have* got away with murder" (and he didn't care!)
Gail "Aren't we part of the same family?" Gloria "Same family, different branch"
David to Rita "Just do what the rest of 'em do. Look the other way" (Awww)
Eileen "Maria did not bark, she howled"
Eileen "The smell of self improvement brings me out in a rash."
Simon to Leanne about Nick "He's up to it, or you're not up to asking"
Sean about Eileen "Bitter. With an added bit of self indulgence"
Amy about a broken broomstick "Me mum will kill me" Tim "No she won't." Sally "You don't know her mother. Then again, it's probably her mother's actual broomstick"
Sally "Funny your name's Grace because you haven't any"
Liz "We are fifty-odd, feisty and fabulous. We do not need a man in our lives!"
Does anyone remember why Leanne is so upset by Kylie in particular? She said that if it had been anyone else but Kylie it wouldn't |
have been so bad. Kylie does drape herself around Nick and get close to him when she can so is Leanne just jealous of that?
Pearl; you got that right about Anna's parenting! It's sickening how she pets and fawns over her, letting her get away with anything |
she wants. She reminds me a lot of Gail with Nick. Sally has her faults but she is right about Faye and Grace. I wondered why all the
little kids were at that party anyway since Faye and Grace are older and kids that age don't mix with younger kids much and are more
likely to act older than they are.
Hey Jude, I thought that too. But years of substance abuse does a real number on the brain and emotional centers. Just as head injury victims are often no longer themselves after the fact, so too with substance abuse people can be changed forever and rationality can be the first thing to go out the window. But I feel sorry for him and his family and I hope even though his political aspirations may have gone down the tubes, that he can get some help and recover in other ways. In which case down the road he might be more horrified than anyone when looking back on his behaviour. So I hope things work out for him and that he gets well eventually. It's sad when you think how many people are adversely affected by drugs, and how that impacts on the immediate family and everyone around you. |
Faye can't see the light soon enough for me. How many people is she willing to see get hurt before she walks away from Grace? If they keep Faye on over the years I'd like to see what kind of adult she grows up to be. Somehow I have a feeling she'll never be a favourite character of mine.
|Sheila, thanks that's what I assumed. It leaves innocent posters extremely vulnerable though. Website administrators have that info behind the scenes anyway. But for posters it's like going to bed each night with your front and back doors wide open.|
|Faye is obviously becoming more and more disillusioned with Grace's actions. So, I'd say there's hope for Faye yet!|
Some of those suggestions you guys mentioned were really good! I just hope the writers of Coronation Street would read this GB - we've given them some good ideas!LOL|
Leah: Very good (re the Tracy joke!)
I was watching an interview the other day about Ford and someone, not sure who it was that said he thinks part of the reason Rob Ford is the way he is is because he came from money and didn't have to answer to anyone for anything (what a mistake his parents made). In other words, a spoiled, rotten kid. No kidding! I had been thinking those exact thoughts the other day and mentioned it to one of my friends. I KNEW it wasn't just me!LOL
|Yes Leah, Anna's parenting techniques are a huge part of why Faye is as bratty as she is. Talking about over protective (she must have had lessons from Gail). I cringe every time she says "that's ok sweetheart, or are you ok sweetheart?" while doing every thing for her. Have yet to see Faye do any chores at home, atleast with Tim she had to make her own lunch now and then.|
Yes, Alma, I wondered about that spelling too. It's ironic that girls who spell that badly should make fun of Nick's confusing words. He has brain damage. What's their excuse? I'm also liking Ben Price more and more as an actor. I hope Grace is only temporary. |
It bothers me that Anna is covering for Tim, e.g. letting Faye believe that Tim actually fulfilled a promise for once and picked up her costume. It will take longer for Faye to realize that her dad is a waste of oxygen and it will hurt more in the end.
|Leah - You certainly set the Bar low for that joke!|
|Hi: I noticed that Shirley spoke of incorrect grammar. Along that line, I remember that when Faye spelled "gross" at the Halloween party, she spelled it "groce". Is that simply poor spelling or some sort of weird variation of "Grace" (who is truly gross!)?|
|If Kate Ford could use her Corrie first name and her real last name, and if she were to become a model, she could be billed as 'Model T Ford'.|
|Pearl, nice question. I think a ladies clothing store would provide lots of gossip. Alternatively, Underworld could open a wholesale outlet, selling slightly flawed knickers and bras for great prices.|
Liza - we started making the IP addresses visible years ago when we were having problems with people causing trouble by pretending to be several different people and insulting posters. When readers could see that all the IP addresses were the same, it was easier to ignore the nonsense, and made it possible for me to filter out the offending posts.|
|Pearl: Jenna might have been better in a different story line but I wouldn't mind if she left. I'm glad Chesney is in the kabob shop and working at a business on the street. Katy is another character I wouldn't miss if she left. We have Tracy and Rob in a business but it's hard to imagine it lasting very long with Tracy's attitude. There are a few businesses where we see lots of interaction: the salon, factory, Rovers, Bistro, corner shop, Dev.'s, Roy's, Streetcars.|
|Off topic Chris, thanks for the info on Orange is the New Black. On a suggestion from my son I watched the entire first series. Although I found it quite graphic there were some very interesting characters that were very well acted.|
I managed to watch Wednesday's UK episode on Youtube but wasn't quick enough to catch the two Monday shows. This is going to be hard, going back to just the Canadian shows. :-( |
Does anyone know why our IP addresses are made visible when that makes your computer more vulnerable to hackers? (non-Corrie watchers, of course). My computer was targeted recently and since I haven't downloaded anything from sources I don't know, nor clicked on questionable links, I can't help but wonder.
|How about seeing Max or Simon getting some help practising grammar homework, like I have gone instead of saying " I have went", etc.|
Pearl and Hey Jude - I think a Police Station is most needed on the new street and neighbourhood policing is most required on Coronation Street, imo. ☺
|Pearl: Hmm .... let's see, we have a teacher, Dr., mechanic (sort of), hairdresser, of course Paul the fireman but he's gone. How about a chiropractor, dentist or psychiatrist who could get inside David's and Tracey's heads! There are all kinds of possibilities!|
|Hi Haili, was it was you who memtioned Jenna not having a storyline now she and Sophie have broken up. I was thinking today that it could free her up for a whole new set of contacts like she showed with Roy on Friday's episode. I like her straight forward way of approching his hesitation over Hailey's return from hospital. Wouldn't it be great if her physio licence was restored (other's past storylines have been altered when a new story required it) so she could work with Nick on his recovery and possible provide relaxtion therapy to Hailey in the future. If the new street on the new set is to be populated those people will need more businesses and service industries for employment. What would be some good settings for characters to spend time at as customers or workers? The medical center does not get near as much attention as it one did which is a lost opportunity for a variety of scenes. A family counceling center could be kept busy by residence along. Any other suggestions?|
Julie and r'Eric, you're both welcome. ☺
All these comments about women relating to other women in the workplace reminded me of a book I read a while ago. It's definitely not the type of non-fiction I would normally read, but my wife recommended it to me because of a similar discussion we had about women in the workplace. It's called Orange is the New Black by Piper Kerman.
It's not about women in the workplace, though. It's about a woman's experience in the 'big house', so it is. I was expecting a women's prison story like in the "Bad Girls" TV series, but what I read couldn't have been more different. The prison was indeed full of bad girls from every walk of life, but Kerman survived by finding a 'tribe' to belong to and being (mostly) 'sisters' to each other.
Here's a bit of her background story: After graduating from Smith College, the author - Piper Kerman - fell in with a hard-partying, drug-dealing crowd. Ten years after she left it all behind, her past came back to haunt her. Kerman was sentenced to 15 months for drug trafficking and money laundering. She served 13 months in Danbury Correctional Institute in Connecticut.
This link goes to a magazine article which gives Kerman's story from her graduation from Smith to her surrender at FCI Danbury. The book tells the story of her survival and day-to-day life in the women's prison. It's quite the story and Netflix have turned it into a TV series. However, the TV series is more 'Bad Girls' than what Kerman wrote of her time in chokey - here is the link to the trailer on YouTube.
|Leah: Yes and Faye nor Grace had any other friends there, so am guessing they have no other friends, or no one will stoop to their level. You could clearly see Faye isn't totally comfortable with the likes of Gracie - just waiting for her to decide not to go along with Gracie's antics.|
|I don't know if anyone else finds this is true, but I think Simon is an odd target for Grace. He's too young for her to be picking on. Girls her age usually don't even know boys Simon's age exist. The mean middle-school girls I've known have been more interested in going after girls their own age--either girls they think are 'not cool' or girls they consider to be competition, e.g. for the attention of boys. Simon is no threat to her. There seems to be no reason for her to pick on him except that being horrible gives her sick pleasure.|
Chris: Thanks for that info. for Selby. You are so much better at that stuff than me!|
Corrie Grace - I do agree that girls can be very catty and spiteful. I also agree that it can continue into adulthood. I worked with a woman that spent more time undoing everything that I had done than doing what she should have been doing in the first place. I then spent a lot of my own time documenting what I had done and getting witnesses just in case...totally ridiculous.She eventually was found out and left before she was fired but my gosh it was a nightmare in the meantime. Grace is that kid. Girls also mature earlier than boys so it does not surprise me that she is manipulating Simon who is such a sweet boy. I think Grace is only in it for the short time so there's total mayhem to come I believe.
Just scanning quickly because Walter is determined to use the internet and learn to type :-). The computer is no longer a solitary activity. He must have a paw on it and watches the cursor move. I must agree, women are horrible in the workplace, not all but far too many. My old roommate and I used to laugh that most women want a "jobette" - I have been told by bosses that I should work more so the people with children (read other women) do not have to work late. That was a man but by far the most psychologically damaged, lying, manipulative people are women in the workplace, and the current boss has been accused of sociopathic behaviour for 20 years and she is climbing to the top. She is a psycho and uses her authority to abuse the people that work for her and we are referred to as "bodies", as used as "I must put a body in that job". Don't get me started. I am in a female dominated place and it is the worst place you can imagine. Petty, nasty, Grace like behaviour at the highest levels.|
I agree with those who wondered why Grace was not overheard by an adult or why simon was so silent>
|Ta f' the 'Tudor Feast' Video Chris :-). On a trip home yonks back, I visited Ruthin Castle to a similar feast, just had a dagger to eat with, suppin' up on Mead wine n' such .........back to the 'Rovers' now for a pint and a 'Hot-Pot'.|
|Pearl: I so agree about the party scenes - I couldn't make out what Owen and Anna were saying, and if there were so many adults there, why was Gracie able to bully Simon so easily, and why didn't he speak up??!!LOL Usually parents who are present at a kids party are very alert to what is going on, but not that gang!LOL|
It may only be me but I do not like Corrie party scenes, so much going on and too many people talking over each other that I can't keep straight who said what to whom. Also why are there alway so many adults at kids parties? can't be to set a good example as they squable as much as the kids do.|
As for bullies, they do make other people's lives miserable probably because they themselves are unhappy and feel putting others down is a way to build their own confadence. As someone very wise once told me, hateing someone who has hurt you does more damage to you than to them. You go on reliving the hurt while they have long forgotten what happened. Forgiving is actually self help.
OFF TOPIC: Julie I agree with your Tudor Monastery Farm comment, but where is Alex Langlands? His replacement - Tom Pinfold - doesn't contribute much, imo.
Selby, Tudor Monastery Farm is a new six part BBC TV series from the producers of Victorian Farm, Edwardian Farm and Wartime Farm - Tudor Monastery Farm. The series features historian Ruth Goodman and archeologist Peter Ginn and Tom Pinfold. I hope Ontario's TVO and BC's Knowledge Network pick-up this series.
In the meantime, here is a link to A Tudor Feast on YouTube. It features historian Ruth Goodman and archeologists Peter Ginn and Alex Langlands.
Quote: Without the use of modern conveniences, a group of historians and archaeologists prepare a Tudor feast as it would have been over 400 years ago. They wear clothes from the period, source food from the land, and use recipes from the era. They turn the clock back to rediscover a way of life from an age gone by.
The video is about an hour long, so grab a cuppa and enjoy. ☺
|Monique: One of the worst bosses I had was a woman. I worked in a military environment, so my bosses changed every 2 or 3 years. She was just 4 years older than me and the other young girls in the office. Talk about a temper!LOL She had no clue. She once lambasted someone (not me) in front of a whole room full of people, when clearly all she had to do was pull the person into her office for a chat, but I realized soon after she must have been very insecure to have felt she had to do that. She was all for "Women's Lib" and so was I, but she was waaay OTT with it. She was one person I thought must have been a bully in school and carried it right through to her military career. I got that she had to "prove" she was a leader in a then predominantly "mans world", but she was ridiculous and even some of her male counterparts found her OTT and she was told to "tone it down"!LOL Sounds funny now, but it was serious back in the mid-70's!|
Lisa: Yes, it was in England, but the mistresses (teachers)including the Headmistress, Head Girl and all the prefects were great and always encouraging. No "side" or discrimination there. It was a handful of other girls who came from wealthy families and since it was still wartime with shortages, if you didn't have the "right" fountain pen or painting supplies, etc., it was made much of, you were "left out" of things, pointed remarks made within your hearing, stuff like that. Nothing like the bullying that goes on now in scome schools. of course, and the other "scholarship girl" of that year was a Cockney from the true East End, and she gave as good as she got, so she did ok. I was too soft, but I survived.|
Monique: I agree about some female bosses. They forget that they made it on the efforts of those women who went before them and who fought hard for their rights to get there, and are often worse than men. I think, again, it's jealousy ... a case of "pull the ladder up, Jack, I'm aboard". BTW, I'm sure, as others have said, you will get that job or one like it. The company was too positive not to been impressed.
|Julie from Windsor : Does the Tudor Monastery Farm show appear on Toronto TV anywhere at any time? I love the series of BBC Farm shows. I think my interest started with Victorian Kitchen about 2 decades ago.|
|I was reflecting once with a friend on how psychological harassment and bullying in the work place seems to have increased a lot in the past 10-15 years. I was wondering why that was and my friend pointed out that it's because there are more female managers! I know many women who do not like to work for a female boss. Every time I apply for a position I cringe when I see that the position reports to a female boss. Of course not all women managers are like that, the best boss I ever had was a woman. It's just when bosses are mean and/or bullies, women can be particularly vicious and imaginative in how they attack.|
I was glad to see Leanne make up with Nick. I know he's angry because of the head injury but I hope he doesn't become abusive and mean. I liked the decent guy Nick used to be before the injury. I wonder if and when Jenna is leaving since there doesn't seem to be much reason to keep her around.
There are grown up mean girls in many work places and they can make life miserable.
BBC Tudor Monastery Farm is really well done. Worth a look in my eyes anyway!
|Lisa, scholarship boys should have been paraded as achievers, rising above their disadvantaged beginnings.|
|joanne, I gather your girl's school was in England? On the list of why my English husband moved to Canada was the behaviour at his school. The fees were quite low but some boys were given scholarships and throughout the year when they had assemblies these boys were paraded in front as charity cases, just so they would not forget the supreme largesse of the school.|
I agree that girls can be spiteful and nasty; some grown-up women carry it on into adulthood. To me it means a great deal of insecurity if someone has to bully/be nasty to feed their own self-worth.|
I won one of the first two scholarships that were ever given by a private girls' school where previously it had been only fee-paying. Hence I was looked down upon as "the scholarship girl". As I realised many years later, I WON my place, didn't have it paid for, but at the time I was only 11, so not that smart about bullying, and it did hurt. That's why I call myself lucky with the women friends I have had and still have in my life ... not one of them is jealous, spiteful or anything other than caring and supportive. They are truly like "sisters" and I like to think that that works both ways.
And I've known (have married!) men who were spiteful and bullying, so, you're all right, gender has nothing to do with it ... character does.
|Yes, shallow, shallow, shallow. I'm renaming Tracy Barlow. From now on she is Tracy Kardashian.|
|That was my point when I said that there are people who are as one-dimensional as Tracy. Who do you think horrible girls like Grace grow up to be? I have known many girls like Grace and their grown up equivalents and I would be hard pressed to find any soft side to them or any hint of compassion or a conscience. And it seems that many of them have grown up to become my bosses.|
|Girls can be and are mean sometimes. I'm another who thinks Gracie is not OTT. I've known girls like her when I was that age, and nowadays it's all about bullying via Facebook and other social media. Just wait till Faye refuses to do what Gracie wants, then she will probably get bullied by everyone on Facebook. Gracie is being the quint-essential bully right now, such a horrible kid.|
I cheered Gail when she gave the Peter line to Leeanne. Darn right about that.
And Grace is a mean girl. I do not find her character over the top. I wonder as well how far they are going to let her take Faye down the path of bad girl behaviour. Faye is not on board with all Grace does but she wants to keep her "friend". I think it is very real how peer pressure makes kids do things that they would not necessarily do without the pressure. Could be interesting!!! Just do not drag it out forever and a day. Good for Owen, takes a bully to know one.
My personal definition of hell is dealing with teen age girls and now even younger girls, the so called "tweens" are imitating some of the older girls. Girls can be vicious and in my experience many woman are too. Sorry ladies, but I find my own gender a bit lacking -- back stabbing, manipulative, isolate, gang up, just nasty cliquish stuff to hurt others, and let's not pretend that men are the superior gender, both have attributes that are not making us better people. David sure is adrift. Where is he getting money for a pint? Like that Liz said that he was always creepy! So true!
Whether, or not, Corrie continues to be uploaded to YouTube, due to the footie (England v. Chile), Coronation Street will not air on Friday, 15 November. ITV has rescheduled it to Sunday, 17 November.
And if YouTube declines to host future Corrie episodes, the good thing about the new ITV Essentials service is that many Weatherfield ex-pats will continue to be able to keep up with the Street's goings-on: Kevin and Bill Webster in Germany, Andy McDonald somewhere in Spain, Ryan Connor in Ibiza and possibly Tommy Duckworth in the Canary Islands will all be able to subscribe to the new service. Unfortunately Ken Barlow, in Canada, will no longer be able to keep a long-distance eye on Deirdre - he'll be two weeks behind like the rest of us. ☺
|Usually Corrie Gail's habit of butting in annoys me but I cheered when she reminded Leanne of her stop over at Peter's on the way to her wedding to Nick. Kylie is showing maturity in her actions towards Nick and Gail. I guess it may be easier for her to be more objective than Gail when it comes to reacting to Nick's mood swings. His story is the most interesting at present imo.|
I hate to be the downer here but I don't find the character of Grace to be that exaggerated. I've encountered girls who were just as mean, just as malicious and just as manipulative. I hate to admit this, after all we're talking about my species, but there it is. Girls can be horrible.|
|Hey Jude - I think Grace's number is 666. :-)|
|Thanks Chris and Terry. I guess I will have to wait and watch CBC online, which only repeats the shows broadcast during the week.|
|I agree. That Grace is the nastiest and most horrid child ever. What a future she has ... another Tracy in the making!|
Shirley: No, she's horrible, and I haven't seen tonight's episode yet!LOL|
Julie: That's a great description of Gracie, can hardly wait till I watch it.
|SPOILER Wow, that Grace sure goaded Simon and had a hand in upsetting Nick with all the noise and goings on. She sure doesn't seem to have compassion for others.|
|WAIT.....It's her....she murders Tina...LOL|
Is it me but that Grace sure is giving me the willies. She's like a creepy doll that comes to life and kills people..lol|
|I know, she's a horrible kid. At least Owen has her number. Wonder what'll happen tonight.|
|H, I know she made them change the day of the party so I was sure she wasn't going to show up.|
Lisa: I think Grace said she couldn't show up unless the party got moved to Friday, which I think Anna agreed to. I haven't seen tonight's episode yet, but that's what I remember from yesterday.|
Wow. Just when I thought Ford couldn't get any lower in the gutter.
|I thought Grace was not going to show up to the party. But she did! Did she ever!|
A while back there was some talk on here about young girls wearing their hair in bun. Well today I observed a young person (13 or 14) at a bus stop with her hair French braided in the back from the nape of her neck up to the crown then rolled into a roll on top of her head. I thought it was very neat and attractive. Maybe it is the style with teens these days. Ofcourse you see all sorts of hair styles on young and old. With Halloween just past I hope the purple and green hair doos where seasonal. Would much rather see neat hair on top of the head than long bangs hanging over the eyes.|
Now that we have seen Deirdre this week, when are she and Liz getting together for a good old natter? Soon I hope.
|Whoa!!!!! This Grace chick is one nasty piece of work! What on "Corrie"-earth do the writers have planned for her?? She is what 14 or 15 but really scary.|
Dianne and TerryM, a possible explanation why new Corrie episodes are being quickly removed from YouTube is that ITV has announced the launch of a new international subscription service which will allow fans who live or travel abroad to watch Coronation Street and Emmerdale.
The new project, titled ITV Essentials, is now available in 12 European countries for a monthly subscription cost of €5.49.
ITV Essentials is currently available to soap fans in Austria, Belgium, France, Greece, Gibraltar, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia and Spain only. Digital Spy has the story.
It's possible, then, that ITV requests YouTube withdraw current episodes so that their European based fans will subscribe to their new service.
There's a link on Christine's Fun Pages to a company that, I believe, provides internet access to live UK TV. Look for the link in the upper left-hand corner of Christine's home page. I don't know anything about the company or how it works - Christine would be the best person to ask questions.
|Thanks Terry M.|
|Just to be positive for a change here are the characters I like: Eileen, Steve, Lloyd, Leanne, Kylie, David (sometimes), Gail (when she has a brain), Audrey, Nick, Rita, Norris, Dierdre, Liz, Ken, Dennis, Roy and Hailey (except the depressing bits), Brian and Julie (usually), Tyrone, Fizz, Chesney, Sinead, Beth, Craig, Sean Jason. There are probably more that I've forgotten and it depends a lot on the story line. Carla, Peter, Tracy, Rob are interesting at times and fun to watch but I can't say I like them all the time and probably they're meant to be disliked and add spice to the show. I like a lot more characters than I dislike and I dislike them mostly because they're boring, overused or annoying. Mary, Anna, Sophie, Faye, Gary and Izzy would fall into that category.|
Sheila - I noticed a birthday is up there for Lee Rowe, our friend from Port Townsend , Washington.|
Lee passed away peacefully last year. So, you may wish to take that down now.
|I sometimes watch via youtube and have been noticing that the amount of episodes are scanty. I did see the one on angle and thought it to be strange. I search by the date as shown in the UK. For example for yesterday's episode, I typed in "Coronation Street October 30, 2013". It's easy to know, as we are pretty much two weeks behind. Hope this helps!|
Dianne - It's getting to be a battle alright. I was able to watch Monday's episode but it was with commercials. They were about fifteen-thirty seconds long about every five-ten minutes and broke in mid sentence which was very strange, then the show continued with the rest of the sentence.|
Then Wednesday's episode I had to watch through a letter box screen with about two inches cut off all the way around, which was also quite strange. I guess it's due to with copyright infringements.
Our viewing days may be numbered, or maybe it's just a phase, and normal service will be resumed soon. I'd tell you how I found them if I could, but it was such a trial and error and took so long, search through youtube that I wouldn't know where to begin.
|I have been enjoying watching the latest Corrie episodes on Youtube or from other sites. When I tried to watch Monday's double episode, November 11, 2013, a message appearaed on the screen that the video was removed by the user! First there were episodes were shown on an angle, now the current episodes are unavailable. What is going on?|
|If the Corrie bosses actually read this G.B and actually paid attention to what we wrote, only Roy, Hayley, Deidre and Emily would be living there:'))|
|I like Izzy and thought the scenes where she's cuddling her baby Jake were very nicely done. She seemed to have a natural way with the baby. . It's probably a trait that the actress herself brings to her character. Gary, I wouldn't miss him at all. How could you miss that sour face and his defensive attitude? There are so many I would miss though. Isn't it interesting though how even when characters you love do leave Corrie, after a while you do forget about them. I have to admit that I miss Ken popping up in scenes now and then as he did. He hadn't had much of a storyline for a while but he was always around. I hope he comes back when he gets his legal troubles sorted out, if that ever happens! I don't miss Kevin, and I actually didn't mind him, he'd been around for so long too, he was just part of the scenery!|
|Future Character SPOILER *** We will probably be seem more of Gary in the future as I have read that one of the new characters to be joining the cast this year will be a friend of his. It didn't say if there is another connection for him on the street eg garage mechanic so may be a flying visit. Another male character coming soon will be connected to Dennis which is good - he needs more and different storylines.|
|I haven't missed Gary or Izzy either!LOL Like you Monique, I almost forgot about them!|
|I don't miss Gary and Izzy and wouldn't miss Fay, Sophie, Grace, Jenna and her mother either. I'm one of the few who wasn't fond of Derek and Mavis, except when Des. was playing tricks on them and the gnome disappeared. Other than that, they were boring to me. There are lots of other good characters so the above would never be missed.|
I think, in some ways, Brian Packham resembles the late Derek Wilton - both characters are a bit eccentric and pompous. I like Brian when he and Julie are humourous, but when he's down on life - as he is now - I'm not a fan.
Julie, I was tempted to link the ELP version of the Peter Gunn theme, but decided to go with Henry Mancini's original. I agree with you about ELP's version, though. ☺
|My guess is that the murderer of Tina will be Frank Foster's mother! LOL|
Wow, I totally forgot about Gary, Izzy and the baby! And that's a good thing.|
I like Brian too. I don't think he's pompous, I think on the contrary he lacks confidence and his clumsiness reflects that. I love the innocence of his relationship with Julie.
Fiz and Tyrone are another ordinary happy couple. Their only problem now is Fiz being preoccupied with Hayley. I wish we could see more of them as a family. I have to say that unfortunately I have been unlucky enough to meet quite a few people in my life as one-dimensional as Tracy, some closely related to me. Cold, heartless people who make you wonder if they have any feelings. I guess that's why I'm not as shocked as most of you are by her character. The total indifference she showed to the situation with Nick while everyone else was concerned would make some people say that the writers portray her as too one-dimensional, but I predicted she would act that way based on some people I know. I liked Liz's wild and free hair and I thought she carried that look quite well for her age. When she had that awful bun a few days ago it made her look 20 years older. She looked older than Audrey and Gloria with that bun.
Wow, people are getting very creative with all of these pictures and articles. Interesting reading thank you!|
Chris: E.L.P did the best Peter Gunn.
Brian does get a vote from me. He does play the bumbling buffoon extremely well, although to be honest, I've not seen him in anything else to make a comparison but in this role I think he's great.
Gail: I'm all in favour of "happy stable characters" too We need more normal people to grace the cobbles, after all there is a limit and right now I think it's on overload.
Anyone else NOT missing Gary, Izzy and the baby? LOL
|Haili, I did say that I thought Ches and Sinead were boring, but maybe I'm just so used to conflict and fighting these days that they seemed so by comparison! You are right, Sinead is much better for Chesney than Katie is. She's more mature than Katie and much more suited to Chesney's quiet, more introverted personality. They make a cute couple. We do need happy stable characters who are just ordinary and go about their business! I could see Sinead working in the knicker factory with Auntie Beth. I know she's mouthy and doesn't think before she opens her gob LOL but I love Beth, she's supposed to be crass and insensitive, filling the Janice void. But Beth has shown a softer side too when Craig was having his problems a while back. I think the actress did a good job of that, just as Janice did from time to time.|
|Haili, I agree with your comments about enjoying the scenes with Chesney and Sinead. It was lovely to see a young couple smiling. I hope Chesney does well. He'll have to put a stop to freeloading Beth and her chubby kid looking for free food. I really don't care for Beth I find her rude and obnoxious. Joanne, I also agree with your comments I was thinking the exact same thing last night while I was watching what is the point of Tracey? What is the purpose of Tracey and Tina arguing all the time. If I were Liz I would bar Tracey from the Rovers because all she does is harass Tina. I'm also noticing that Anna is behaving like she did when she first arrived in the show - screeching at Sally with a café full of customers! I also dislike Faye and her bratty friend. Why are all almost all the girls in Corrie wearing their hair in ridiculous looking buns? Faye's is very unflattering.|
|Terry: .... and to set up a possible murder suspect. My guess is there's going to be a few and we will likely be surprised at the outcome.|
|Haili - My guess is, it is to have Peter come to Tina's defense and thus the start of an affair between the two.|
It was a breath of fresh air to see Chesney and Sinead happy together. He's been through a lot and deserves a break. We need nice characters like those two since there are so many angry mean characters lately and so much sadness. So far I find Sinead much better than Katy, the boring pouting princess. I can see Sinead ending up in the factory and I've always liked Chesney.
I find Brian quite funny and a good comic actor but we all like different characters. Nick has had quite a personality change but I hope he doesn't keep up the temper and despair too long. I liked him the way he was before the accident and hope this isn't the end for him and Leanne.
What is the point of the feud between Tina and Tracy? Is it to break up Tracy and Rob?
|Shirley, thank you so much. I have been feeling that way too. I met with my job search coach today and he said the same things you said. He said of course to get back on track and apply for jobs but it is plausible they could call me back down the road. As I said before, that happened to me at my previous job. I asked him how often that happens realistically and he said it's not uncommon. For now though it's back to the drawing board unfortunately.|
|OFF TOPIC Monique, Thank you for letting us know what happened with your interviews, etc. re new job situation. Maybe it will go in your favor in some other way before you know it. It sounds like things with them could go back your way sometime in the future. They sound like it was so close. Perhaps the other person will want part time in the future or to retire for some reason. You just never know. Anyway for now, you know what's what and can continue forward. ON TOPIC Poor Nick, so-o-o confused and not realizing what perhaps he can't do yet. Still, people trying to hold you back from doing things that maybe you can do would be so annoying and more limiting than needed at times.|
Jeannie, that's an apt comparison: Peter Gunn's Edie Adams and Gunsmoke's Miss Kitty. Gunsmoke was one of my dad's favourite programs and I remember watching it with him as well. He called all programs and movies with Cowboys and Indians "Dusters". Good memories. ☺
Alan Halsall (Tyrone Dobbs) and his wife Lucy-Jo Hudson (the late Katie Harris) have named their daughter Sienna-Rae. There's a brief write-up here in the Daily Mail. The article says Sienna-Rae’s positioning saw Lucy, 31, battle through and extremely painful labour, recalling that the hospital room ‘looked like a murder scene'. Lucy says she was in labour for twenty-five hours. Alan said, I broke down in tears when I saw Sienna was breathing.
From Wikipedia: Sienna is a feminine given name currently popular in Great Britain, New Zealand and Australia, where it was among the top ten names given to baby girls in 2006 and 2007 in several states. The original usage of the name is derived from the Italian city and may also refer to the orange-red color of burnt sienna.
|Joanne, I can't stand Brian either. I disliked him from day one. Like you said, the way he's always pigging out, it's disgusting. I do like some of the others though but I agree. I would love to see more of Eileen, would definitely love to see more of Jason LOL, and Sally. I find Chesney and his girlfriend boring so could do without them. I wonder if they ever plan to get Ches and Katie reunited, or is that well and truly history now?|
|Thought I would try posting a photo. Remember this, awwww, what a sweet picture.|
Sorry, but I can't stand "Brian". Not only is he a pompous ass, but he's always gobbling food down, shoving it into his mouth, and eating like a pig while talking with his mouth full. If his role is to act that way, then he's doing it well, although I recently saw him in a movie, and he did the same thing, so perhaps not? Thst sort of thing makes me cringe. My kids ate with better manners by the time they were respectively three years old.|
I wish Tracy would ride off into the sunset forever ... oh, have I said that before? She has two acting styles, nasty and nastier, and that sneer on her face is well overdone. Rob? Why is he there? He's added nothing to the storylines and has the acting range of a radish, so he can go, too. Anna, Gary, Faye, Faye's horrid little friend, Owen, Gloria, Stella and Eva really don't do anything for me. Perhaps new characters will come on to replace them when the new streets become included in the storylines?
More Lloyd, preferably with a nice woman in his life, more Steve, as he used to be, before the writers emasculated him, more Eileen, more Jason, more Fiz and Tyrone, more of the characters who are realistic and like the people down the street (no pun intended). From this page to the writers ears, I can only hope.
I remember Peter Gunn, Chris!|
And wasn't Edie Adams owner of Edie's nightclub his girlfriend? Kind of a more modern version of Miss Kitty of the Long Branch Saloon? :)
Thanks Pearl for reminding me about the episode we saw Tina's mother - I had forgotten that she was part of the abortion storyline. ☺
I found a pic and some information about Tina's mother - Anna McIntyre - on Corriepedia:
Anna McIntyre is Tina McIntyre's mother who appeared in May 2008. She went storming round to the Platts' house and forbade Tina from seeing boyfriend, David, who was serving a detention order in Larchfield Young Offenders Institute. Anna and husband Joe had separated and Joe began a relationship with David's mother Gail Platt, which turned into a short-lived marriage before Joe's death. Anna didn't come to his funeral as she was too upset. Since Joe's death Tina has had little or no contact with her mother.
I was watching the credits scroll by the other day and noted that Bessie Street School headteacher Brian Packham is played by actor Peter Gunn. This reminded me of the 1960's TV series Peter Gunn which I used to watch with my dad.
Peter Gunn was a private detective played by Craig Stevens. Here is a link to Henry Mancini's theme tune on YouTube.
|Happy Birthday Ruth‼ ☺|
Happy birthday Ruth-Anne Moore!
Happy belated birthday Sharon!
Thank you Scot from Newcastle. I appreciate that. I wish that people would realize that we could all be there and in need of assistance someday. It is very sad how small the world can get for the those who lose the ability to drive as their age and some health issues begin to really take hold. I have been seeing more of it all the time, parents, relatives, friends' parents, etc. starting to experience the infirmities of aging, whether mental or physical and we are in for a challenging future in many countries in the world.|
As I mentioned growing up I went to Vimy school named for the Battle of Vimy Ridge. In Canada we are taught in history that the battle of Vimy Ridge was the definitive battle when Canada started to develop it's own identity apart from Britain and the Commonwealth.
I believe in the very early grades, before grade 5, we had to memorize and recite the poem
"In Flanders Field" for the services held on the day, and most of it has stuck with me so many years later.
from a web site about the Battle http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/vimy/index_e.shtml
The capture of Vimy was more than just an important battlefield victory. For the first time all four Canadian divisions attacked together: men from all regions of Canada were present at the battle. Brigadier-General A.E. Ross declared after the war, "in those few minutes I witnessed the birth of a nation."
And I have an undergraduate degree in history and love historical events, good and bad. And we humans seem to love to make the same mistakes over and over, not paying attention to the past is a deadly mistake.
CORRIE I hope that the Tracy/Tina plot is stopped soon. I am not looking forward to the Princesses of Darkness, Weatherfield chapter, tearing each other apart daily. I cringe when I see Tracy, bad acting, red lippy, and that one smug expression. In the battle of the acting, Tina is better and has better facial expressions IMO. Why would anyone bother to feud with Tracy? Is this another case of taking a minor incident and turning into an epic feud like Paul & Lloyd and the racism story? Save us please if this is the case. Tommy gone and explained -- good enough for me. Bring on a Sam Elliott type for the garage mechanic and many of us will forgive the Tracy/Tina thing.
Haley and Roy are rather intense at times,sad and hard to watch. Nick is doing a good job, I agree with others who have noted this. I hope he gets a prominent role for the near future. Leeanne did a runner? well now, quite rich considering she would have done it on her wedding day to Nick if Peter was willing to run then. I like Leeanne but I find her memory a bit spotty since she has had her own indiscretions. Sophie and Jenna -- who cares? Tonight in Halifax is our man Rob/Marc. Looking forward to it.
I hope that he can explain his poor judgement in being with gobby cow Tracy (GCT in the future) :-)
|Hi Sharon, 'you're welcome!' ☺ Hope you had a great day‼|
Lisa, this is the page that explains how to link to an image. ☺
Lisa if you wish to post an image, it must first be hosted on a server on the internet. Then you write some HTML code to hyperlink to the image.
The best site for HTML instruction is W3Schools.com. The link goes to the page which shows how to create HTML hyperlinks. ☺
Oops! Lisa I did not read your post correctly. You want to post a PHOTO. I read (thought I read) your post and thought Hmmm...isn't that Lisa who posts here all the time? No, can't be, she wrote "How do I post here?" What can I say? It's time for another cup of coffee.|
Sorry. I don't know how you can post a photo, but I'm sure if it's doable someone will pop up soon and explain.
Lisa, you just did!|
Welcome to the GB!
Pearl, I agree with your post. I think the producer/writers are doing a good job of portraying a brain injured person. Ben Price/Nick is one of my Corrie favourites. And I have absolutely no trouble imagining how he could be described as a heart throb. :)
|How do I post a photo here?|
|OMNI SPOILER: Very impressed with Nick's acting post brain injury. Confussed, unable to concintrate on one thing, annoyed with himself and angry over small events eg the shower head. It must be a treat for Ben to have a storyline where he is not self contained and polite to everyone.|
|Sharon: Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a nice day!|
|Thank you for the Birthday greetings Vera, much appreciated.|
|Lynn from Halifax, I was very moved by the poem Flanders Fields that you wrote on your post. I always find the Remembrance service very moving. What a very kind person you are, taking your elderly neighbours to the shops when they can no longer drive. As I mentioned yesterday, I have a great - uncle who fought in the Battle of the Atlantic - my mum's uncle - and because he lives near me, I go and see him every Saturday - even after I've been to the match. He always says I'm more his grandson than his great - nephew - so I spend as much time as I can with him. Love ya, Great - Uncle Donald. Love and regards as always - Scot.|
|Gail, yes fingers crossed! Not to live on false hope, but I was thinking about that today. This job is a bit particular because it involves putting controls in place from scratch all over Canada with no established method for how to do that and I did exactly that for 5 years and I know that there aren't many people with that kind of experience. I also think that Dev and Stella would be a good match because they understand each other very well and they're both business owners so they have that in common too. Unfortunately it won't happen because Michelle Collins is leaving soon. I like Stella. I wish there were scenes between her and Liz exchanging comments about running The Rovers. Liz is my favorite but I like both landladies.|
Thanks everyone who posted re my question about Sally and Dev. Good points made. Haili, I do remember Dev saying he would only marry a Hindu woman. But then again, he didn't seem to have a problem living with Geena all those years ago. I can't see him with Stella who has become somewhat superfluous lately though. Gail, I think Sophie is still working in Dev's corner shop. Chesney will manage the kabob place.|
I was going to say something else but it's gone out of my head. I'm so tired I'm not making any sense so I think I'll go to bed.
SPOILER: Selby, tonight - in the UK episodes - we learned that Karl had entered a plea of guilty to the charges. Karl will be sentenced in two weeks time - near the end of November (in the UK timeline).
|Hey Jude, he really does sound like Mark huh? LOL Monique, fingers crossed that the same thing happens with this job! It's entirely possible. Good luck! Pearl, I know it isn't very likely that they would put Stella and Dev together, and esp since MC is leaving. I don't know about Sally and Dev as a couple either. It's hard to imagine and can't you just picture Sophie going *Mom!!! Ewwwwwwww... you and Dev? He's my boss, he can't be my step father!* Actually, is Sophie still working there? He just gave the job to Chesney didn't he? Maybe there will be a nice romantic prospect for Sally in the new houses too. It seems we're pinning a lot of hopes on those new houses LOL Murderers, lovers, etc!|
Gail: Good one!!LOL :)|
Terry: You do sound a lot like Mark there at 23:39!LOL
|I miss read your 29:01 post Gail thinking you were talking about Sally rather than Stella until I got to the Michelle Collins part. What?? ha ha on me, guess I have Sally on the brain today. No I can not see those two together, it would just be too much of a quincident first Karl & Sunita getting together which was a stretch, then their partners. I know you like Stella but I won't miss her one little bit when she leaves.|
|Janice, Gail, Julie, Hey Jude, thank you. Gail, that actually happened to me once, it's how I got the best job I ever had. It was a similar situation, they were all enthusiastic about me and ended up hiring someone else. Three weeks later they called me and said they had made a big mistake and offered me the position. I was there for five years until the company faced hard times due to the recession. And it was exactly the same type of work as this job would have been, except that now I have five years more of experience. As you said, it's unlikely but I know it can happen because it happened to me before. The fact that I came this close and almost beat someone they actually knew is a boost to my self-esteem but on the other hand I seem to be cursed with the worst luck ever.|
|Mark, are you disguised as TerryM tonight? ;)|
|Patricia - So if Roy (David Neilson) assisted that wife to commit suicide in a heartbeat, why is it taking him so long to decide to help Hayley?|
Happy Birthday Sharon ~*~ Hope you're having a wonderful day!|
Happy Birthday to Christa too! Enjoy : )
(Roy in Corrie)sorry I have forgotten his name, played a spouse who assisted his wife to commit suicide in Heart Beat.|
|Just watched a good movie last night:"Bhaji On The Beach". A much younger Jimmi "Dev" Harkishin starred in it,and gave a wonderful yet disturbing performance.|
Monique: I'm also sorry to hear about that job you wanted, but keep at it, something has got to turn up very soon.|
Hey Jude: soap characters in affairs are always happy until the s..t hits the fan but it all ends in tears!|
As for Dev., I thought at one point he said he'd only marry a Hindu woman but maybe he's changed his mind now that he's been married and has kids. If Stella is leaving within the next year it's hardly worth while for those 2 to get together. I wonder if we'll ever hear about all those kids he had with the women in the other shops he once owned.
Monique: That's just too bad. Do they have a 'lesser' position in that company just to get a foot in the door? Keep plugging away though and something will turn up:-)|
Terry M: LOL
Selby - He's in the jailhouse now!|
He thought he was he was the smartest guy around
But I knew one day.
That Karl would get locked up someday.
They've got him in the jailhouse way down town
He's in the jailhouse now he's in the jailhouse now.
|It just occurred to me. What is the current state/circumstances of Stella's Karl. Seems to have disappeared completely.|
|Oh Monique. I'm so sorry, that's such a tough break for you. Maybe she will decide not to take the offer and then the job will be yours. I know that's not likely, but it's possible. They obviously really liked you. Keep trying and best of luck with finding that perfect job soon.|
|I have a feeling they're going to introduce a new character for Dev. Maybe she'll live in one of those new houses on that new street, along with Tina's murderer LOL I know that I'll be alone in thinking this, but I could picture Dev and Stella as a couple. They seem to have good chemistry whenever we've seen them together and they obviously care about each other and have a lot of concern for what each of them has been through the past year. I could see that friendship growing into something more but I doubt the writers are planning to go there, especially since Michelle Collins has said she's leaving Corrie.|
|Haili: Yes I knew that, but wasn't it a while before she found out Paul had an ill wife? I'm not saying she wasn't unhappy, but she was def happy for a short time before the s**t hit the fan. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.|
|So sorry, Monique. So near and yet so far. You must feel devastated.|
Off topic update:|
I got a call from the company that was so enthusiastic about me and told me that I was a finalist and my references were positive to tell me that they hired someone else who had worked there before and wanted to come back. She said that it was a very close call and the manager was very torn and it was a very difficult choice for him to make between me and this other person. Finally they went with the other person because she worked there before and the VP liked her. She told me not to get discouraged because it was very positive since, even though they knew and liked this other person, the manager was still very torn and hesitated a lot. She said we should keep in touch and connect through LinkedIn. I sent her an invitation to connect.
I am disappointed of course because not only was the job very interesting for me, I liked my interactions with everyone I met there starting with the receptionist who told me I was a very pleasant person to the employee from Edmonton I chatted with while I was waiting to the professional way they handled the hiring process. Plus it was near where I live. It would have been a good fit for me. And I came so close.
|Hey Jude: that was before Eileen found out Paul had a wife. It didn't last that long after the wife moved in and after she died she always felt that she was second best for Paul as the wife was the love of his life. That relationship never seemed worth the aggravation to me but maybe I'm just not a romantic.|
Hi Chris, We have meet Tima's mother in one or two episodes around the time Tina's had the abortion. She (the mother) come to Gail's to see Tina and found out what had been going on. She tore into Gail for aiding and abetting, Gail fired back that if Tina felt she could trust her, she would have told her what was going on. As to why Tina and her mother fell out, the only thing I remember is Tina not liking her mothers new partner. Quessing also that Tina was 'daddy's little girl' and the divorce when ever it happened caused her to blame her mum for 'sending' him away.|
As for John Stape being dead, he was a miracle man surviving a fall from the hospital roof (lol) but didn't survive the car crash. We saw him die in hospital and later attended his funeral.
Hi Jeanie, Dev and Sally getting together is a possibility as I think Dev will partner up with someone soon. Who it will be, don't know. Trial and error dating with guest characters would be more interesting esp for Sally imo.
|Haili: Eileen was happy with Paul at the beginning of their relationship.|
Jeannie: I didn't think Eileen was that happy with Paul. First she found out he had a wife, then the wife moved in with her and she had to deal with nasty remarks from most people. There was a small window of time when she was happy before the Rovers fire but after that it was all anxiety. To me she seems happier without a man; some women are like that and she may be better off by herself - and have a lot more laughs.|
As for Tina, she should take a bus to London or join her mother. Maybe we've had enough murders for now.
Terry M: I think that you may be right about Tina's murderer, If infact it does happen. I believe it was Chris that posted some pictures here of the new set and they have added a row of houses at the back with the possibility of introducing new characters. I wonder if one of them could be the murderer? She's still starting to tick people off though so whatever happens it looks as though there will be a lot of finger pointing and possible motives.|
Haili, I agree with the overdoing of personality changes particularly for Gail and Steve. Gail used to be one of my favourite characters. Now, not so much. As for Eileen losing her sense of humour when she was with Paul, could that have been explained by what the counselor told her - that she used humour as a defence? Therefore, when she was happy (she was happy for a little while with Paul) she didn't feel the need to make wise cracks? I am so enjoying seeing Liz back behind that bar. And I think her wardrobe has been toned down a bit too? I hope Peter and Deirdre get to have more scenes together. They could compare notes on hearing from Ken. Dee could give Pee some relationship advice. I think it could work.
Anybody see Sally and Dev getting together in the future?
|Several other articles say that Tina WiLL be killed off so I guess there is a lot of speculation on the topic and we will just have to wait and see, right?|
|Tina will not be murdered. Interview (Nov 7/13) with Michelle and Chris (www.whatsontv.co.uk). Michelle says Corrie is leaving the door open for her to return. She is leaving next April and Chris next October.|
Hi Scot - Thanks for dropping in. Oh, and who was Sunderland's first win against?|
Oh yes, that black and white striped team from down the street. It's funny eh, Newcastle can beat Chelsea and Tottenham but lose to Sunderland and Sunderland can beat Manchester City, but lose to Hull. Funny old game eh?
All the best Scot.
Plaid Cat - Julie and Brian live in the other flat above The Kabin.|
Monique - I agree 100% and not just because it's Tina.
My sympathy is all with Brian. He's had enough of working with kids and wants a break. Julie is being selfish but I suppose it's the writers' way of getting him to leave if he gets a job at a museum - far away.|
The Roy and Hailey story is well done but depressing and I've had enough of it.
It would be natural for Todd to have changed a bit since he went to live in the big city, lived openly with a boy friend etc. but you wouldn't think he'd go from being a nice person to a nasty one. Sometimes they overdo the personality changes like Gail and Steve losing most of their brains and Eileen losing her sense of humour when she was with Paul.
|Yes, the story about pancreatic cancer is very realistic. Sometimes Corrie is so fantastic you can hardly believe it (like Tracy pretending Roy was Amy's father). Then when it 'gets real' it does so very well. Brian said Amy Barlow was being difficult in school. Right on! A real child could not have the upbringing Amy has had without showing it in her behaviour. I forget, is it Deirdre who has her four nights a week and Steve three, or the other way around? When Tracy came out of jail she kept saying, "I want my daughter back. All I care about is my daughter." Ha! It's also realistic (if a bit sudden) that after years of working with kids Brian doesn't want one at home and he wants to change jobs. He was looking at an ad for a job in a museum. If I knew him in real life I'd say, "Go for it".|
Hey, peeps! It's Scot! Terry - second win of the season for Sunderland. Well played and thoroughly deserved. The Magpies also won - and I was at White Hart Lane - because I was in London for the Festival of Remembrance and the Cenotaph parade - with my brother David and my cousin Paddy. David was marching with our grandad in the march past - while I was with our great - uncle - who had served in the Battle of the Atlantic. If anyone was watching the Festival on Saturday night, when the veterans of the Battle of the Atlantic came into the Albert Hall, our great - uncle is the first one the camera focused on. He's a lovely guy and we all care a lot about him. Love ya, Great - Uncle Donald.|
Corrie: I do think Hayley's cancer storyline is very moving and sensitively portrayed. I have recently seen a close friend and neighbour suffer pancreatic cancer until she died in July - so I thought the producers would show it wrongly - but I'm glad to say the opposite is true. Speak to everybody shortly. Love and regards as always - Scot.
|I find the thought of such a young girl being murdered depressing.|
SPOILER: Plaid Cat - I wonder how uncomfortable the moment will be for Nick when he encounters Todd back on the Street?
Mind you, Nick had a different head when he last *encountered* Todd.
TerryM, Rick seems to be a likely candidate if he can get out of chokey.
There's one character we haven't seen on the Street but whom I've always wondered about - Tina's estranged mother. I wonder if we will meet Tina's mother and whether she'll play a role in Tina's exit from the Street? Or, perhaps someone she knows?
I like the idea of multiple murder suspects like there were in the movie version of Clue starring Tim Curry.
And, are we really sure John Stape is dead? ☺
|Mark, I am pretty sure Ryan was still working at the Kebab Shop almost right up to the time he left, we just did not see him much in there after he broke it off with Katie. *** SPOILER *** I am really looking forward to Todd returning to the street, but rumor has it, he will not be the nice Todd we are used to seeing *** End Spoiler. Who is living above the Kabin now.? There were 2 flats up there right.? Rita and Dennis are in one, who is in the other?|
|I don't think there is anyone on the Street right now evil enough to want to murder Tina. Not even Tracy or David and certainly not Peter. It would have to be an outsider who is a criminal to make it reasonably credible.|
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|I suspect that Rob Ford still smokes pot and smokes it often. Haili, good point about the munchies. I had to LOL when I read that because you're so right! I'm so sad that Chris Gascoyne is leaving Corrie. Fingers crossed that he will do as he has done in the past when he took a break, and come back again. You wonder why an actor who has a steady job such as he does would want to give it up but I suppose he has his reasons. Chris, they're definitely making Tina's death a whodunnit because they said as much in the article I read. It's meant to be a ratings booster. So we can expect Tina to be clashing with all the possible suspects for the next while. I think loan shark Rick is a likely candidate as he would have it in for her big time!|
|To add to the speculation of who might be charged with Tina's murder it could well be Peter but with the record of ineptitude of the Weatherfield police evidence that it was someone else could turn up a year or two later then Peter would be released and could return to the street. I think Tina will have to make more enemies before her demise to make it a good who done it. One far out person seeking revenge could be Tommy with a string of threatening phone calls from afar.|
|TerryM from Ottawa: Thanks for stirring me to look at why I have the reaction to the 2 women. It has been pretty stable over the last year or so. Never liked the current Tracy. I regret how they have dumbed down Gail and Steve for that matter. Liz seems to have returned a bit large in the wrong places. That is about all I have to say on such matters. I hope the Haley event is completed with accolades for all.|
Chris - Thanks for the mention of Sunderland's victory over the Man. City millionaires. The Magpies are doing well too, since the Black Cats gave them their wake-up call. Anyway, it's a long season.|
Selby - Just teasing about Tina and Tracy. I think Tracy was better looking though, when she was Dawn Acton.
I think Tina would give Sophie good competition for long thick hair. I wish she'd wear it down more often.
|I read an article a while back that said that Hayley will not expect Roy to assist her in any way but she just wants him to be there with her. It's normal for her to want the support and presence of her spouse at the most difficult time of her life she's ever had to experience. She doesn't want to die alone, that would be horrible. Plus she said she wants to say goodbye properly. I agree that it would be too much to ask Roy to assist her and face murder charges, but the article I read said that will not be the case.|
|Maybe the writers will send Peter off to sea again. If he has an affair and Carla finds out and fires him he may want to go back and earn some money which would let the writers bring him back after a couple of years. If anyone is going to be murdered it should be one or more of the boring characters.|
I'm sure people in Hailey's position aren't always thinking clearly. She and Roy were happy when they came home from Blackpool and it was bad timing to spring the suicide idea on him. He knows she's going to die anyway and no-one knows when so he may never have had to know it was suicide if she kept it to herself and took sleeping pills. I hope she doesn't expect him to help her and we'd be in for a long murder trial - and I hope it happens soon.|
As for Rob Ford and his weight problem: he said he had smoked a lot of pot so he probably had the munchies a lot. I feel sorry for his wife and kids and hope he gets some help soon.
Liza that is a possibility as Chris Gascoyne (Peter Barlow) will be leaving the Street in October.
If he murders Tina in April, then we will have a who-dunnit storyline that runs for five or six months.
However, according to reports, Corrie producers are going to leave the door open should Gascoyne wish to return to the Street in a couple of years. Might be tricky if he's sent down for Tina's murder, but his half-sister got out of prison. Would the producers dare repeat that lame storyline to explain Peter's return? Interesting to speculate, that's for sure. ☺
|Chris, my guess has always been Rob right from the first moment I heard about this plot. But if producers don't want to get rid of the actor and who knows if they do, then Loan Shark Rick Neelan would be the next choice. I can't see them turning anyone else into a murderer. But my friend keeps pointing out the actor who plays Peter wants a break from the show and the timing would be perfect for it to be him.|
Gail, Kylie and David all know that Gail cannot legally throw David out of the house based on ownership because it is his house. But when David pointed that out to Gail, she threatened to go to the police if he didn't leave. So they have the power to make him leave because they can threaten him with going to the police for his actions regardless of who owns the house.|
I think it would be much more upsetting for Roy if Hayley took her own life without even telling him and he found out after the fact. He would be traumatized about not being there to say goodbye and he would feel a mixture of guilt and betrayal that would be overwhelming. I don't think Hayley wants Roy to assist her in any way, she just wants him present when she goes. I don't know if doctors are allowed to assist patients with dying in the UK. I understand how Roy feels, but we must remember that Hayley is the person dying and facing possible unbearable pain so I think she's the one who is entitled to decide what to do with her own body. She should have taken Roy's feelings into account in the way she suddenly sprung it on him but who can think clearly all the time in those circumstances. The end will be very upsetting for Roy no matter how it happens.
If Tina is murdered (as is rumoured), I hope the writers make the investigation of her death a who-dunnit. So long as it is well written, it can go on for months, as far as I'm concerned. I think Toxic Tracy will be at the top of the list, but other possible suspects could be Rancid Rob or Demon David666. Maybe Loan Shark Rick Neelan escapes from prison and tracks down Tina. Any other suggestions?
I am a fan of crime thrillers and my favourite board game is Clue (Cluedo in the UK) and I've played it since I was a child.
I suggest the murder was committed by Tracy Barlow in Elliott's Butchers Shop with Deidre's pottery figurine. ☺
Perhaps we will see Weatherfield CSI in action and I'd love to hear the chief investigator accuse a suspect: "You killed her in a rit of fealous jage!"
I am Inspector Clouseau and I am on official police business!
Thanks for explaining about the ownership of the salon and house Haili.|
I wish David would kick Gail out and she'd go and live with Audrey and Marcus and Maria, Liam and Ozzy
|But Haili, death by drug overdose in many cases is such a difficult way to go. Hayley has a right to go by a more peaceful, non-painful means. If I were Hayley I'd go to the Netherlands or some such country where she could find a doctor to assist. But even then they usually encourage a spouse or family member's presence for the sake of the patient. I think this story is being handled well. I think it's natural for Roy to feel the way he does, but I can see him coming around later. I'd be more upset if I was Roy and didn't have a chance to say good-bye. Or if Roy heard Hayley's last moments or hours were agonizing, as some drug overdoses without a doctor's help can be.|
|If Hailey wanted to be considerate of Roy's feelings, she'd save up her pain pills and take an overdose without telling him. Why involve him unless she's not thinking straight these days?|
Joanne, upon reflection, you are correct. I should not have used that word. I added that at the end, because I was curious about how many of us have been near an accidental or violent death. I meant, if it was disturbing, not to add the details if you didn't wish to.|
For myself, I had a friend, and when we were about 22, hung herself in her mother's apt. Apparently she had been released from hospital, and they took her to her mother's place. The mother had to do some laundry at some point and left her alone for a few minutes. I had no idea she was so ill, or capable of this, and it shook me to the core.
|I may have forgotten, but I thought Audrey still owned the salon since she seems to be the boss there. She was going to sell to David but I thought that fell through and she sold David the house. Where would he get the money to buy both? It did seem odd when Gail kicked him out of his own house but Kylie be half owner. Maybe he's just being a good boy and listening to his mom for a change!|
|Liza I agree that he appears to have a junk food addiction - LOL!|
Mark, take a walk through Vancouver's downtown eastside where there's a high number of drug addicts (or equivalent neighbourhood in another major city) and you'll note these addicts - current addicts - come in all shapes and sizes especially if no longer in their teens or 20s. He's 44. Some would argue the mayor may have food addictions. Unlike some addicts he'd have plenty of money to feed numerous addictions at the same time. Do you really think if he were taking drugs he'd do so instead of eating a meal. Really?? But yes I've known enough cigarette smokers whose idea of breakfast and lunch is coffee and a cigarette so I get where you're going. They're not Ford though who likes his KFC. :-) |
Susan, yes the resemblance between siblings is jarring. They look a lot like their father too. My biggest shock came when seeing his niece though, a young woman who is the splitting image of him. See link above.
David should sponsor Sophie to become a hairdresser.|
With her magnificent hair, she could sell all kinds of shampoo products.
David needs to start renting the Salon's chair stations to hairdressers.
That's what they do in real life; I used to date a hairdresser and she said so.
Who is Chesney replacing?
Tracey and Ryan left long ago.
I felt sorry for Chesney working for Dev, he's going to exploit him into the ground.
|Susan: With respect, and with no intention of being rude or dismissing your opinion, to me the word "juicy" used for anything other than fruit or veggies, has always meant scandal or gossip about someone. Murder and suicide are tragedies for everyone involved, especially family members who often are left with questions for which they can never get answers.|
Hi Liza, she gained the weight back when she detoxed.|
Same as people who quit smoking tobbaco and they gain weight.
Everyone knows that!
Susan that whole ring story made no sense and had no purpose.
If Denis had the ring in his possession, how is it stealing?
Why did he go to Tracey's shop?
I expect they only get customers who don't know how evil Tracey is.
I like how Rob is more business minded than Peter like insisting on the shop staying open
vs Peter who was impulsive and who found every excuse to leave the shop.
I think Sophie should date David as he appreciates thick hair as I do too but I can't be therefore I delegate David to do appreciate her hair.
Thanks Diane/Tvor for the write-up and the Lines of the week. My favourite was Roy to Beth: "Is there ever an occasion where you consider thinking before you speak?" (I think everyone has come across someone like Beth in real life.)
OFF TOPIC: TerryM well done those Blackcats; ManCity made it quite the nail-biter at the end. Stoke's tie with the Swans doesn't make it any easier for Sunderland to move out of the bottom of the table and their next four fixtures look tough. Good luck.
Just some random thoughts:|
How did Dennis have that ring after all these years. He was homeless, and surely would have realized that he could get some $ from that ring. I don't think that if you are cold and hungry you would forego creature comforts because of sentimentality.
Fay should like Sally, because it was her relationship with Tim that kept her dad on the street.
Did anyone else get creeped out at how much Rob Ford's sister looks like him. I think a big truck should come by and lock up this whole family of enablers. None of them has any grip on reality.
|Mark, how do you explain the mayor's not so slim sister who is/was addicted to hard-core drugs?|
When I was 18 I took a year off from school while working in a credit union to save money for university. A very nice 19 yr old man who worked there gave his notice and on Friday, his last day, we celebrated the next stage of his life with food, etc and he seemed to be in high spirits. The next Monday we heard from our distraught manager he had committed suicide over the weekend. His ex-girlfriend also worked at the same place. When I was in my 20s an older friend's teenaged son killed himself and she was never the same after that. Those are my only experiences with premature death although over the years I've known many women who were the victims of violent crime at the hands of someone they knew who survived physically, sometimes wishing they hadn't. |
Going back to the show, Hayley could end her life without making it obvious it was suicide. I read about one way people have been known to end their lives when suffering from a terminal illness, which makes it appear you died in your sleep (which actually you do, only it's done intentionally). This method requires the help of someone else though, often a supportive spouse.
Thanks Pearl, The insurance helps cover the cost of the funeral as Roy has no savings as we learned when Sylvia looked into his accounts.|
Sometimes the surviving spouse is depressed and can't work for a while.
He could sell his antique vehicle as he doesn't go anywhere and get his stock delivered.
Hey Jude, these days parents expect those stories to be accounted for on the kids cellphone video
Pearl from BC: I mean she is almost perfect in her appearance notably her skin. I imagine there is make up to achieve It but it appears blemish free. Also, of course. no sign of being over or under weight. She is squeaky clean and cool doesn't actually describe the clear intention that she seems to apply to virtually everything I have seen her do. So being bacterial free seems a reasonable exaggeration. Hence Listerine dipped.|
I used to work with a woman who was very similar.
Hi Selby, you described Tina as 'listerine dipped', could you define that a bit? Do you mean squicky clean or antiseptic cool? Lynn love your description of Tracy "bull in a china shop in red ligstick". She does rage around without thought of the damage she causes.|
Hello Mark, good to see you posting again and agree Rita is long overdue leave from the Kabin. I know most fans adore her but I'm not one either. I find your support for David questionable but guess someone had to stand up for him. As for Hailey having life insurance, even if she did Roy would NEVER use that as an arguement to dissued her from taking her own life. He is probable the least greedy person on the street, honest to a fault and would never think about material gain.
|Mark: I should confess: When I was 9 or 10, I used the excuse, "there was a cat in the garage and it scared me and that's how the storm window got broken" to my Dad. I was terrified he'd kill me if he knew the truth. In reality, I went in there to get my bike and it fell over and broke a "storm window" where my Dad kept them until Fall. My bad.|
Addendum: The Mayor needs to leak a secret cellphone video of him blowing in a bubble pipe in his living room to confuse the media!|
Thanks Hey Jude! ... I'm working on it.
|Mark: You sound like you have quite a bit of experience in all of this!LOL :)|
Julie if he really was a crack addict he would be slim.|
I wish he'd hire me as his PR man.
I have an explanation for everything! :-)
I'd be standing next to him with huge photos of crack addicts
asking the reporters does the Mayor look like a crack addict to you?
As for his rant, he suffers from sleep walking!
Haili I found the John Stape adventures entertaining but I agree.
give us a break with some humour.
The women are shrews lately except for Corrie Julie.
I'm so glad that the Windasses are not shown as much these days.
I liked Sophie's thick hair.
For that reason alone she deserves a spot on the show.
I wish Norris would hire her to work in the cabin instead of squabbling Rita.
Gail thanks for telling us about the missing story lines.
It is a shame that the evil CBC removes scenes.
On to my favourite character: David Platt...
Who is Gail to be telling him he can't see his daughter?
She's not the family court judge!
David needs to kick Gail out of his house and as well as his adulterated brother.
If he owns the salon then he needs to fire Audrey and start collecting rent for Maria and Marcus and Audrey.
The first step is to see a free lawyer (as he's not earning much) and get a court order to keep Gail and Audrey and Nick (the meddlers)away from him
so he can't get back into his and Kylie's house and work on their marriage free
of the interfering meddlers.
Kylie can't kick him out of the marital home unless she gets a court order from a family court judge.
I wish David would stand up for his rights.
Asides from saying that a cat ran out in front of the van,
he also could have used his diagnosed medical condition saying that he had an epilepsy
attack which startled Nick and Nick had to stop the van.
I'm disappointed in David and the writer's lack of imagination. ---------------------------------
Roy needs to explain to Hayley that if she commits suicide, the insurance company won't pay out
but either way they will find an excuse not to pay out using the pre existing condition clause.
It's hard to imagine Hayley leaving Roy even for a few days. I wonder which room in the elastic-walled Number 9 Hayley slept in if the children are sharing one bedroom and Fiz and Tyrone have the other. It didn't look like she slept on a sofa. Meanwhile, Roy is bereft. It was a good idea for Sally to talk to him, though even if her situation was a bit different but I did wonder why they had their little talk in the cafe, not in the flat though they did get there in the end. Lovely little scenes. But Hayley is ill and the makeup job was great! She looked white as a sheet, almost grey! Roy now feels temendously guilty for rowing with Hayley. Hayley's slowly recovering from the infection but neither of them is telling Fiz what the row was about. Poor Fiz can't understand and Hayley isn't willing to open up. I don't think Roy will ever understand and is determined to avoid the topic. She's going back home when she gets out of hospital but the issue is still there, most definitely. That's going to be a big chasm between she and Roy. Gail and Stella are on the same side for once and they're promising to stay out of their children's current life crises. In a pig's eye, likely! They're all pulling together to keep the Bistro going while Nick can't work and Leanne scarpered. Fair point, David could very well be pretending. He lies so well. He's not of course, he's just sorry he got caught and lost everything. David did point out that he was thrown out of his own house but he's got a very shaky case there.
Meanwhile, back in the doghouse, David is sleeping with a mate somewhere and Tina took pity. She offered him a place to stay which apparently ticked off Tommy so much he walked out after Tina mentioned to David that they'd been having troubles lately. That's unfortunatly contrived but necessary as the actor was sacked. I won't miss him, never found him very interesting, just a whiny, immature child. David sleeping under Tina's roof isn't going to help Kylie's jealousy, either. Now with Tommy's departure, that leaves Tyrone in the lurch as well. Tommy's gone, Tina seems to be making friends with a sympathetic Peter. Really though, I think the reconciliation after the baby stuff was always a bit less than "love's young dream". Fiz mentioned a shop steward. They aren't unionized as far as I remember. Beth wants discounted knickers. I would think they could get cheap seconds. Chesney has lost all his stock to a breakin. Apparently the bloke whose lockup he's using did keep up his insurance but that can take time to recover and restock. Chesney now has no income and won't get his stock back because the owner of the lockup didn't lock it up! Prime storyline fodder for Dev to hire Chesney to run the kebab shop. Finally a proper job with a regular dependable income, at least. Dev has a reliable worker there, at least. Michelle is off to Ireland to engineer her parents' reconciliation. She may be some time! If i was her mother, i wouldn't be too keen. Rob might threaten not to put any more business Tyrone's way but it's too convenient not to. Audrey must be back in her house again if Rita wondered if she'd taken David in. Dennis ended up confiding in Tina about the ring. It is still baffling why he has no money when he's got a pension and a little cash from his part time job. The payroll from the job is probably what tweaked the council to his whereabouts. Tina's stash of baby cash comes in handy. I guess she didn't give all of it to Tommy. Yes, the engagement ring used to be his mother's but he gave it to Rita so it's hers now. He had no right to pawn it. It is all contrived to put her at war with Tracy and in Peter's sympathies. Tracy was vile as always. I do think Tina could take her on and put up a better fight. Tracy isn't a scrapper, she's verbally abusive. He'd had to buy it back for a lot more than he sold it with Tracy rubbing their noses in it. She started right in on Tina in the pub, totally uncalled for so really, she's waving the red flag at the bull and even if it seems that Tina is instigating, Tracy is doing her share. Cracks in the fabric between Rob and Tracy and he's right. You can't treat the customers like that and he certainly disapproved of her outing Dennis. Yet, she snogs him and he's all loved up again. Tracy didn't have to publically humiliate Dennis and make sure Rita knew the whole story but you knew she would. Rita really dug the knife in, surmising Norris was right about Dennis being a gold digger. How would you figure that? Rita was far too hard on Dennis. She should have let him owe Tina the money rather than take on the debt and him to pay her back. She also more or less sent him to bed without his supper, like disciplining a child. Now he really feels like dirt! Tina was in the doghouse too but the next time Rita saw her she was all smiles. Tracy did warrant a warning from Tina. She did treat Dennis and Rita shoddily, nothing to do with charging more to buy the ring back. She further annoyed Rob by closing up at dinnertime and she wasted no time pulling Tina's chain about Tommy leaving but Tina at least managed to come back strong, exposing Tracy's one night stand with David. Her apology to Rita was pretty fake, and only served stick the knife in Tina's back again over Tommy. Peter's right about Tracy, she plays dirty. She might lost a physical fight but she'd retaliate. At least Tina has Peter's sympathy. Sparks, anyone? In fact, if it weren't for Tracy probably having Tina in jail for assault, I'd really like to see the two of them in an all out fight because I still think Tina would wipe the cobbles with Tracy. All this bickering and trading of insults was probably fun for the writers to dream up but it started to get highly tedious. Tina stashed knickers in Rob's car. That was childish and completely obvious and clearly Tracy does trust Rob. Still, Tina took the opportunity to rattle Tracy's cage uncalled for so she did deserve the insults she got back about her Dad. It's descended into mayhem and it's boring and tedious and it's only serving to push Tina into Peter's radar, really. Peter might say he's got Tina's back but he didn't do much for sticking up for her with Tracy. I do enjoy it when people manage to get the better of Tracy like when Liz pointed out she barely sees Amy. Tracy doesn't quite have Sally's sour look down pat but she's working on it. Rita seems to have let Tina out of the doghouse about the ring but is still trying to keep her on the straight and narrow. Will she listen? Will she heck! Well Tina has made an enemy of Tracy but then she's got good company since half the Street are Tracy's enemy too!
I loved the scenes in the pub with Liz, Sally, Beth and Sean. Beth thinks she and Liz are two peas in a pod and in some ways she's right. Liz likes challenging and exciting men. Sean and Sally think it's closer to brutes and psychos. Beth agrees with Liz who thinks yes, Kirk certainly is a challenge! LOL! Brilliant!
Cracks in the fabric between Sophie and Jenna too. More and more Tim really is behaving like an ignorant pratt. Sophie is obsessed and Jenna is getting exasperated. Sally seems oblivious but she does want to make friends with Faye who really has no reason to resent her since Sally never took Tim off Anna or anything like that. Tim is getting more and more obvious about being a loser too, it's as if he's only in it for the sex and free meals and that's it. He can't be arsed to make Faye a priority. Well, at least Sally put Tim in the doghouse too for standing her up with the movie date, for 5 minutes. Jenna has lost all patience with Sophie's ranting and, it seems, Sophie herself. Sally does seem to realize down deep but in the face of Anna's accusations, she'll get defensive. Tim overheard Sophie's ranting. As if he didn't know already. He says he's not an idiot so he's going to dump Sally though still wonders if he just keeps on behaving badly, Sally will do the dirty work for him. Well, in the end, he doesn't get the chance to dump her because he's taken aback when she wants to finish with him, citing her over-clinginess, blaming herself. That sorts him out and he thinks she will just be a no-strings girl from now on, which is what he wants. You must be new here. Sophie's not going to be happy about it. I don't blame Sophie for being miffed that Tim is being sloppy around the house. She wasn't being immature about that at least and she can see Tim is a tosser. Don't know why Jenna can't. Sophie also can tell there's problems with Jenna who's finally realized that she and Sophie are just not suited and have less in common than they thought. So that's over. Will we lose Jenna? I hope not, I do like the character, just not with Sophie. Rob didn't like Tracy closing the shop at lunch but then he did it too, when he took them on a business lunch. Liz isn't keeping much of a reign on Tina and maybe she's talking sense to her but I don't think her words have made much of an impact. Peter moans about a new person in Packing who didn't close one of the boxes. I'm surprised Kirk, usually so vigilant about training newbies, didn't catch that one! Things are going a bit rocky at the Bistro with a tempremental chef. Nick's finding it hard not to get involved. Back to Brian and Julie and the fostering storyline. I hope Roy had free wifi in the cafe where she was writing the email. Julie's very enthusiastic but it's continually clear that Brian is not. Brian thinks foster kids will be every bit as tiresome as most of his students and Julie doesn't think so. I think she's dead wrong. Most foster kids come from troubled backgrounds and are hard work. Brian's getting fed up with teaching. Cracks in the facade between these two, as well? He's eyeing up the job ads. Wanna bet he finds a new career and it's not in Weatherfield and she doesn't go with him? Lines of the week
Roy to Beth "Is there ever an occasion where you consider thinking before you speak?"
Liz "Steve you should know by now that a woman always gets the last word in an argument. Anything after that is the start of a new one." (it is when Steve utters it!)
Beth to Liz "I hope I'm still fabulous when I'm your age" (it *was* a compliment, albeit left-handed)
Rita to Dennis "You should DREAM of the doghouse!"
Anna "Different people have different priorities" (and Faye isn't one of Tim's)
Tina to Tracy about her fling with David "Nearly put him off for life, said he had more fun in the post office queue"
Tracy about Tina "She's got a womb to rent, er, room to rent"
Peter "I like a cat fight as much as the rest"
Sally "We're not young and this is a nightmare" (but he'll talk her round)
Tracy "You have got a really mean streak, do you know that, Tina?" Tina "Must be like looking in the mirror" (ironic, much?) Tracy to Tina "Why are you so obsessed with my life?" (It did seem like that)
Peter to Tina "Tracy is lethal. If you don't believe me, see Weatherfield Cemetery"
Dev "Tim. Man up!" (snowball... hell)
Rob "This really is the Last Chance Saloon"
Sally "That isn't a lily of the valley freshener you can smell, it's desperation"
Julie's clothes are from a retro shop in England. They have some very cute things, but I feel a bit too long in the tooth to pull off some of the looks.|
Being from a family of mentally ill, yet not drinkers on maternal side, and alcoholics who have untreated mental illness in many cases, on the paternal side, if I ever started to count it would be too overwhelming. Suicides generation after generation, my teenage friend killed by 22 yo after several attempts, family: early deaths from alcohol, accidents?? while under the influence, a couple of cousins murdered by bad partners or circumstances, those who spent a lifetime in the mental hospital and died there. Reading this little paragraph, maybe Corrie is not entirely wrong that there is a lot of gloom and doom in life, with the occasional positive. I am not looking forward to the battle of the gobby gals -- please writers, not a plot with Tracy giving us her one note performance as a bull in a china shop in red lipstick, and Tina going off the rails trying to deal with the events of her life recently. I do not find it amusing watching someone who is in a precarious mental state (hello, David) get more and more off the rails as a plot device, once in a while but not Tina too??? There must be more stuff to write about. How about that new mechanic -- a fling with Liz? Steve dumping Michelle and finding a fun, witty partner to spar verbally with steve and not be his mommy telling him off all the time. Just my wish.
It would be nice to see something good happen to someone soon though. I think we are all due for some levity and fun -- viewers and character alike. It is true that it has been a rather intense and dramatic year on the street. Abuse, death, trials....and now if we have to watch the Caesar Romero, Joker lipped Tracy show her limited talents, I am going to have to send a "sternly worded letter" to the writers :-). Yeah, that will make a difference. AND,
IN FLANDERS FIELDS POEM
The World’s Most Famous WAR MEMORIAL POEM
By Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae
Lieutenant Colonel John McCraeIn Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead: Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved: and now we lie
In Flanders fields!
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch: be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields
I grew up going to Vimy School so WWI, and subsequent conflicts were prominent and ceremonies were held at school every year. PAY IT FORWARD STORY
I take a 87 yo man and his 84 yo old wife to the grocery store every week. They can no longer drive and get around like even 5 years ago. They are my former neighbours and we remain close. It is the least that I can do for them. He is very sad seeing what we have become with gov't and the power elites making life so hard for so many. He is an old navy man -- spent the WWII in the navy and stay in until the 1970s. Because of him and those like him who were young and full of vim and fearless, we are sitting here today appreciating the life we lead. He still speaks of the brother he lost and how they tried to meet up in London and missed one another, never to meet again.
Yes Haili, I remember that. Seems like such a long time ago. That's one of the things I like about Sally. She's got many sides to her personality and we've had lots of opportunities to see them all. Clearly there is no question that she's a fantastic actress.|
I was just watching a bit of the Omni, Tuesday's episode, and there were two very good and quite long scenes that were completely omitted from the Tuesday broadcast, and they were good scenes. I'm thinking I may have to start recording the Omni instead of each weeknight episode because I hate missing anything!
|Gail: yes, Sally can be quite funny. Remember the time she found out about Kevin's affair with Natalie? She got into Natalie's house, dumped all her cosmetics in the sink and turned the tap on - with the plug in. Then she let the cat out. I loved it.|
TerryM, that's very true LOL Back in *those days* we didn't have any way to know what was coming, especially random events like those ones. It was a much simpler time! Selby,I remember Ben Price on *Footballer's Wives* and YES, he was quite a heart throb on that one! He was much younger, hair was longer, he was very cute.|
Haili, I agree with you 100% It's time for a light hearted and funny storyline to give us a break from all the dramatic ones that we've had in the past year. I think it would be fantastic if it had something to do with Steve and Liz because they're both very good at comedy. Or even the trio of Deirdre, Liz and Eileen. Anyone really, as long as it's light and provides some laughs! I've enjoyed Sally's scenes lately. She's such a good actress and I'm looking forward to seeing her give Tim his walking papers which I hope happens soon. You know Sal, when she's finally reached her breaking point, Tim will wish he had never laid eyes, or anything else for that matter, on Sally! LOL
Maybe it's just me but I find Corrie has been pretty heavy for the past year. There was the abuse story with Ty. and Kirsty, Fizz and John Stapes, and lately Roy and Hailey. I'd like to see things lighten up and a few happy people for a change. In the real world, it's not all doom and gloom and we have a few laughs to relieve the tension. How about a night out or a dinner party with Kirk, Beth, Chesney, Sinead, Fizz and Ty? Eileen, Dierdre, Liz and maybe Sally and Sean all need a night out. And for heavens sake, let Steve have some fun too. That miserable Michelle has really put a damper on his life and he needs a laugh with Lloyd and Eileen. All the racial stuff with Lloyd and Paul seemed to put a halt to the laughs.|
Don't get me wrong; I appreciate the different story lines re. abuse, surrogates, the odd murder, etc. but give us a break now and then and don't drag them on so long with the same people month after month, eg. the Windasses and Owen's bunch.
It's that time again. Time for the new batch of the Coronation St Fun Pages. Sorry we don't have a new interview for you yet, but a couple are in the works, so hopefully next time.|
Also, do get your answer in this week for the Quiz Nasty, because it's prize week! Closing date November 17th.
So without further ado, here they are: Coronation St Fun Pages
Oh yes, and I don't know if it has already been mentioned here, but rumour has it that Coronation Street are starting their tours again between March and September of next year only. Apparently they will have moved to their new location by then, and the buildings and land have been sold to a developer for commercial and residential, but I guess that won't take place until September, so they have decided to give the public a last ditch treat.
Actor Ben Price (Nick Tilsley) has signed on for another year.
According to this article in the Daily Star, Ben is a heartthrob.
One of my high school friend's has lost two relatives to suicide.
Her younger brother (by two years) was a diagnosed schizophrenic. Off his medicine, he entered an apartment building, went to an upper floor and knocked on doors until someone opened up. He said he was from building maintenance to check on the radiators. He was allowed into the apartment, where he then crossed the room and opened a window. He leapt out of the window and died.
Years later, my friend's brother-in-law became depressed. I knew and liked the guy. Around his family, friends and workmates he was the most friendly and supportive guy, but apparently he had demons unknown to us.
One day he left for work, but didn't show up. He didn't return home at his usual time in the evening. After phoning several of his co-workers with no joy, his wife reported him missing around midnight.
Next day, in the early morning, a golf course maintenance worker investigated a car in the parking lot. The driver was slumped over dead. My friend's b-i-l had taken his own life with a handgun his father had liberated from WWII Germany. And, according to police reports, it was not an easy death.
He left behind a wife and two kiddies, plus parents and three siblings. A tragedy.
|TerryM from Ottawa: Well Tracy used to have a much better figure, as I recall, and her lipstick didn't used to look like the Joker's and her hair didn't used to look like she patterned it on the infamous Terry Thomas or Oil Can Harry either. As for Tina I may be diverted by her personality but I would describe her as Listerine Dipped.|
|I worked with a lady once whose son committed suicide. He was in the psych ward and managed to climb out on a ledge and jumped. Very sad.|
A girl I once went out with was murdered about ten years later. Someone at work pointed it out to me in the Ottawa newspaper and I realized who it was immediately, even though I'd long since lost contact. It is a very eerie feeling, as because if we hadn't split up, probably would have been different for her. But it was her that split with me (hard as that is to believe) so I feel a little less guilty. I never found out if they found her killer, she was found in her apartment in a full bathtub. But not drowned. Strangled if I remember rightly.|
I can't imagine the guilt one would have by causing someone's death, like in a car accident or something. It doesn't bear thinking about. :-(
|I occasionally look up my mother's tiny village in northern Scotland. Recently I saw there had been a murder there. The news report showed the two-up two-down row house where it occurred. It was the house my grandparents owned for over 60 years. That would not have been the first death in the house though as many many people died a natural death in their own homes.|
Three years before we moved into our current neighbourhood a teenage boy was murdered. News report from the Toronto Star.
At the time of the murder we lived in the opposite end of the GTA, but when we moved to the area in the summer of 2010 we noticed a memorial near the bus stop. We assumed it was for someone killed in a car crash near the intersection, however after speaking with neighbours we learned that it was for a murdered boy.
I haven't seen the memorial in a while, but it was there from 2010 to 2012 as pictured in this Toronto Star article. The article also gives the results of the trials of three of the four defendants.
|Hi Susan, no murders but 3 suicides within extended family. I've read Stats Canada (forget which year) that suicides out number homicides 6 to 1 but because murders are crimes they get way more publicity. Corrie is taking a bold step in having Hailey decide when and how she wants to die. There was a similiar storyline on Emmerdale a couple years back - it was riviting.|
With all of this discussion about murders on Coronation Street or in the immediate neighbourhood, I want to ask a question to the general Guestbookers:|
How many of you have been touched by a murder in your family or immediate neighbourhood?
No details required, but if you want to share something juicy........
|Terry: LOL! Tracy reminds me of a kid who just loves to bully other kids in the playground. She's a horrible person and I loved Liz's line to her about hardly ever laying eyes on Amy anymore!|
Selby - In your last post you said: "Tracy was an attractive person until recently." Then later you wrote: "I don't find Tina attractive."|
Perhaps a visit to your optometrist would be in order? :-)
|Gail - You probably found Brian Tilsley and Ernest Bishop's murders came to you as a surprise, because they pre-dated the internet.|
Jim didn't really murder Jez. Wasn't it man slaughter? Or self defence or something like that? Jez could have killed Steve. As for Charlie, there were no tears shed over him after he was so abusive to Shelley.|
I like the actor who plays Brian. He can be quite funny when given the right lines and I get where he's coming from, not wanting to take on a foster child.
|I like Brian's character too. He is played well, good actor.|
|Speaking of murders, what about Charlie Stubbs(?) murdered by our own Tracyluv? And Jez Quigley done in by Jim McDonald.|
I like Julie AND Brian. I think he's an excellent actor and does an excellent job with whatever storyline he's given. I know I'm in the minority on this one. :)|
There are vintage clothing shops in most larger cities Julie might pop into Manchester for her gear.
I actually like Julie too Gail, and as you say has added some humour, especially when she talks to Eileen, and Eileen's reactions - those are the funny moments I enjoy, but last night she just got on my last nerve!LOL She has NO idea what it takes to take care of kids, even a teenager which she mentioned there might be a possibility of doing. I wanted to FF, but I didn't. This will def lead to the exit of Brian. Yes Brian can go any time!LOL I feel he is a bit of a stuffed shirt!LOL|
I didn't like the red belt - it looked like a bunch of Ladyfinger cookies standing on end around her waist and only made her look bigger. Her 50's outfits crack me up!! They probably get them out of some charity shop like Value Village (or UK equivalent)!LOL
|I like Julie, she's a bit daft but it's entertaining, and I love her scenes with Eileen because it's fun to watch Eileen's expressions as she reacts to Julie. Brian, he can leave and the sooner the better. Thanks Hey Jude. :) Pearl, thanks for the stats! You make such a good point that there are more episodes now compared to years ago which could account for more murders/deaths.|
|Pearl from BC: Thanks for the extra names. Sophie Jenna and Jenna's mother, whose name I have forgotten, are excellent examples of what I was trying to get at. And if I could understand her Sophie might be off my list but the other 2 are unfortunately exactly what I was trying to say. Tracy was an attractive person until recently but who wants to see her turn up on screen. Although I don't find Tina attractive she does add to the interest when she is on screen.|
|Julie and Brian can be funny together but I suspect that the fostering story is just a reason for him to take off someplace. That's how the writers got rid of Eddie Windass and I didn't blame him; I'd run far, far away from Faye too. Julie always means well but is just so clueless! I wonder where they get her 50s outfits, like that red belt.|
In the 'Fifty Years of Coronation Street' book by Tony Randall lists all the death and their causes by decade since the start of the show up until June of 2010. There have be 68 death, 13 of which were murders. Throw in 5 suicides over the same time frame, not a happy place to live. And yes there is an escalation over the decades; 60's - 1, 70's - 2, 80's - 1, 90's - 2, 2000's - 6, and 1 in the first 6 months of 2010. Since then as other have listed there has be 4 or 5 more. Ofcourse the number of episodes have increased over the years so that has to be taken into account to find an average per year.|
I don't see Julie as lowering the entertainment value of Corrie, in fact for me she and other 'light weight' characters add much needed levity during the sometime long drawn out dramatic storylines. I don't mind Sophie or Jenna but agree they are not suited as a couple. The characters that bore me are Chesney & Shaine(sp?).
|I had a discussion about Coronation Street with some friends recently. I came away with the notion that what we don't like about Tim, perhaps Julie and for some Brian, Stella, maybe Tommy, Rob and several others I have forgotten is that their appearance on the screen takes away from the show. It not that they are back actors, although I have argued the show has too many of them from time to time, it is that they add nothing to the show and actually signal a decline momentarily at least, in the entertainment.|
Isn't Brian scheduled for an exit? I imagine this fostering obsession of Julie's is what will do his head in and lead him to do a runner. It's certainly doing my head in although I normally like Julie.|
Mark - you really cannot compare Becky and Tina with David. The girls go off the rails but it is not a lifestyle with them and they both have something called heart. David is self serving ALWAYS. Everything he does is calculated and self serving and he only does it if he thinks he can get away with it. It is not done in the heat of the moment. He conveniently forgot that he had thrown Kylie out on Christmas Day and felt aggrieved because she turned to someone else for comfort. It is always all about him - he has never had an altruistic thought in his life. He doesn't have a heart he has a swinging brick. I don't condone what Tina and Becky have done in their wilder moments but I do appreciate the nice side of their nature. I'm still looking for David's!
Gail: Love your 15:05 comment re "it's just a show"!LOL So true!|
Haili: No kidding about Julie and Brian!LOL Julie was getting on my nerves just watching her witter on about fostering a kid. Brian is no more interesting in doing that than flying to the moon!LOL And Sophie and Jenna! Two of THE most boring characters in a long time.
|I just wanted to add that Brian Tilsley's death as well as Ernest Bishop's death were quite believable at the time. They were both so sudden and out of the blue. They weren't killed by people they knew on the street, it wasn't part of a big storyline or a whodunnit, it was just fate that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. That happens in real life all the time and so it was very believable. I remember being so shocked by both those deaths because we didn't see either of them coming. But now, they prefer to build a dramatic storyline around a death and involve another well known character as the murderer, or at least introduce a new character for the purpose of making them the killer.|
|It looks like they plan to open the Corrie set for public tours again once they move to the new set! Link above. I agree, they have killed off too many young people and people in general on Corrie but, here I go again, I'm struggling not to say *it's just a show!* LOL At least they let Tommy get away unscathed as they did Liz when she left. If we count them we'll probably find a lot of characters have been allowed to leave still breathing. I suppose though that they have to have some sensational storylines that end in death for the sake of the ratings! I'm really enjoying having Liz back. It's so comforting to see her behind the bar again. Aren't Stella and Gloria being accommodating? I thought they'd be out for Nick's blood after what he did to their darling Leanne but there they are assuring Gail they're keeping things ticking over at the Bistro and don't have an unkind word for Nick! Unless they're doing it for Leanne's sake since it's her business too. I just expected a bit more venom, especially from Gloria. And they're getting along so well with Gail too.|
|Liza, Brian Tilsley was Gail's first husband and Nick's father. Ernest Bishop was Emily's husband.|
|Monique, how could I forget Sunita?! That's what happens when you post half asleep. Thank you. The other two were before my viewing years, but it makes me think the murder rate on CS has gone way up in recent years.|
|Liza, the most recent person murdered was Sunita. There was also Brian Tilsley and Ernest Bishop years ago.|
I'm glad to see Chesney will be running the kabob shop. Maybe we'll see him and the girl friend more often now that he works on the Street. Julie is an idiot and very self-absorbed. Surely she should be able to see that Brian is fed up working with kids and needs a break. It's all about what she wants and she's dreaming if she thinks a foster child is a good idea with Brian as a foster dad.
Gail sure has changed her tune. When Nick and Leanne got married she wouldn't even go to the wedding and the first time they were married she was the mother-in-law from hell.
Does anyone care about Sophie and Jenna? I don't; and it's time Sally dumped Tim.
|Forgot to add to my post below *** SPOILER ***.|
Thanks for that information about Tina, Chris. I think. I didn't realize it was all happening so soon. |
Terry M, I think they kill off too many people in general, not just young people. I wonder if anyone has ever looked at the premature death statistics on the street. Regarding age, gender, etc. Especially where murder is concerned. Although I suppose there could be an argument made regarding females in real life all too often being the victims of violence, especially at the hands of someone they know. But on Coronation Street I think you're just as likely to be killed if you're male vs female. So who has been murdered? Frank, Liam, Maxine, Charlie Stubbs, Charlotte Hoyle, Joy Fishwick... I'm not thinking clearly enough now to recall others yet.
Chris - They kill off too many young people. It's just too unrealistic! Especially after her dad died tragically also.|
Of course this is the first time I've complained.
Liza no, Tina will exit (if that's the correct word) in April 2014. I will miss her as well.
|** SPOILER ** - But that won't be for quite a long while yet, right? I mean Tina's demise. Isn't she going to be on the street for most of 2014?|
Yes, I did Hey Jude. She knows me too well. :-)|
***Spoiler*** I have to say, I'm not dealing very well with the thought of Tina's impending demise. :-(
Mark: 'It would be helpful if someone could post his diet so we can avoid eating what he's eating'|
That would be booze and crack Mark...LOL
|Joanne: Sam Elliott is also doing a voiceover for Coors beer!! I just saw it!LOL|
|Terry: I didn't get it at first, now I do! Did you see Gail's post this morning at 21:22?LOL|
|Hey Jude - Thanks for the memories of Joanne Froggatt! :-)|
Welcome to the Guestbook Pat; I missed it too.|
Welcome to the Guestbook William! Keep on posting!
As soon as I saw Denis go into Tracey's shop, I knew the news would be all over the street within a day or 2.
Denis was an idiot to go to Tracey and since when did she become a gemologist?
Welcome back Alec.
Thanks for standing up for David. There's a vendetta against David on this Guestbook.
I also saw that he only wanted Nick to stop the van so that he doesn't go home and tell Leanne and Kylie.
As well, Kylie was nasty to David soon after they were married but he never cheated on her and accepted her son as his own.
When Tina and Becky smash windows that is cool but when David vandalizes he's a psychopath. Double standard!
As for the Mayor, he's a people mayor therefore he likes to mingle and participate in the activities of all his citizens to better understand their perspective such if they need more detox programs to be funded by the city.
He's a practical down to earth Mayor and not one of those ivory tower snob mayors.
It would be helpful if someone could post his diet so we can avoid eating what he's eating.
David Neilson (Corrie's Roy Cropper) is in tonight's Heartbeat on TVO.
CorrieBlog writer LV interviewed Kevin Kennedy (Curly Watts) about his new book “The Street To Recovery”.
Here are a couple of snippets:
LV: I began by asking “our Curly” how long it took him to write his long awaited autobiography, “The Street To Recovery”.
Kennedy: The book I started two years ago and it was going really well and it’s easy to write the very fun stuff. But when it came to the stuff where you really had to, kind of, admit what your life’s been like, that wasn’t so easy. I think if that had been easier then the book would have been written a lot quicker, but once I’d finished the fun stuff I then had to write the horrible stuff and that slowed the process down because I wasn’t very comfortable doing it.
LV: I’ve got to ask about all the speculation; are you returning?
Kennedy: At the moment, as far as I know, there are no plans to bring Curly back to Coronation Street and that’s as far as I know. It’s no secret that I’d like to do more and if that happens I’ll be very pleased and if it doesn’t then that’s life and I’ll just get on with what I’m doing.
Here is the link to the full CorrieBlog interview.
|Joanne: Forgot to say, yes, it's the Dodge Ram 1500 truck commercial. He does voiceovers for other products too, I just can't think of any at the moment.|
|Maybe Rob puts up with Tracy and tries to keep her sweet (I was going to say keep on her good side but she doesn't have one) because of Amy's money which she invested in the shop. Rob put up some too, a pay out from Carla maybe??, but he needed Tracy to invest to get the business going. I like to think he is better than Tracy and will at some point give her the old heave ho when he can aford to do so.|
Gail: Too bloody funny!!LMAO|
Joanne: No problem sweetie - I knew what you meant!LOL :)
|I hope the who killed Tina plot won't be as lame as the who killed Frank Foster plot. I actually hope Tina and Tracy fight a duel with pistols and both are killed off, but if wishes were horses...|
The November issue of The Rovers Report is out.
The Rover's Report poses the question: “Is it time to say goodbye to David (Platt)?” David has been one of the most consistently evil characters on the show.
There's also a timely opinion piece on today's GB topic: ...our strong opinion concerns another of Coronation Street’s evil characters - Tracy Barlow. Never, in the history of the Street, has there been such a thoroughly nasty, anti-social and downright rude personality as Tracy. But have the writers made a mistake? Can a person like Tracy really exist within a small, closed community like Coronation Street? Surely she would be ostracized for her obnoxious behaviour? We think so. The Rovers Report says the show’s writers have gone too far with this character and it is high time Tracy was tamed.
Here is the link to the November issue of The Rovers Report. ☺
|I'm sure TerryM is going to say that he wouldn't mind if Tina rubbed him up any way she wanted to! LOL|
**POTENTIAL TINA SPOILER>>>MOSTLY A GUESS**|
Jean F: Yes it looks as though she's going to be rubbing everyone up the wrong way for the reasons that you stated. Also....They did not kill Tommy off and he was mad when he left...Duh, duh duh!!!
|Hey Jude, please delete the "r" in "hery" in previous post ... sorry about that!|
Hery Jude: So it IS him! Every time I heard that commercial I thought, "That voice-over sounds so like Sam Elliot" but didn't know that it was he ... that voice is magic. The only reason I ever watched or watch "Roadhouse" is because he and Swayze were both in it.|
Re: Tracy, I've never liked her, she's a cruel and spiteful b---h with no redeeming characteristics at all. That nasty sneer of hers and her evil tongue makes me want to smack her. Like someone (or two) I've known in my lifetime, she uses othere people's pain or vulnerabilities as weapons against them to feed her own sense of ego and if there is anything nasty to be said, she's the one to say it. Don't blame Tina for going off at her ... I wish they'd write Tracy out for ever. Why Rob is so stupid as to not see her for what she is can only mean they are two of a kind and well-matched, or that his brains are not in his head.
|I think Tina and Tracy are similar in the way they both like confrontation and have tempers so of course if they have any reason to have a conflict it would escalate. Tracy did make a comment about Tina renting her womb before so there was already animosity there. But Tina gave an explanation for her strong feelings in this case when she said that her father was a victim to people like that. So this gives her a reason to hate Tracy in this situation. Plus Tracy is always evil and nasty to everyone she meets and Tina, when provoked, is very quick to escalate the conflict. That's what she did with Kirsty. Before Kirsty became abusive with Tyrone, Tina just fed the conflict between them and took any chance she could to escalate it. Tracy's comment about Tina putting flowers on her father's grave was particularly cruel. Tracy is very vicious when she even uses a loved one's death to push someone, which most people would never stoop to even if angry. She did the same to Claire when she made fun of Ashley's death. I can understand Tina throwing a brick at her shop after that. I was really glad that Tyrone told Tina off for treating Tommy like dirt. It was about time someone did.|
|Liza and Hey Jude, thank you for your concern about Toronto's current problems. Speaking as a Torontonian, I'm not ashamed or embarrassed. It's a bit much for reporters to say Ford has brought shame to Toronto. He doesn't represent most of the people of the city who are quite normal. I just hope the projects proposed during his time in office will survive. We need the changes, especially to public transit. He's not being judged on his work, but on his personal life. When bothered about Ulysses S. Grant's drinking, Abraham Lincoln said, "I'm going to find out what brand he drinks and send a case of it to each of my other generals." Of course that was in the good old days before political correctness and the ubiquitous cameras that have robbed us all of our privacy.|
Corrie could borrow a few pages from Ford's book to set up a very interesting storyline - a person with obvious substance abuse and judgement problems who refuses to admit it and continually gets caught engaging in very bad behaviour. Some characters could be sickened by his arrogance, some could take pleasure in exposing his exploits, and some (I'm thinking Emily) could try to be supportive and get him the help he so clearly needs. Having said that, I don't see any defence for Ford and his actions. It's not like this is a one-off accidental mistake he made - this is what he's been doing for years. He's only ever sorry when he gets caught. That's been his pattern - bad behaviour reported, he lies about it, denies it, and usually blames the media for making stuff up because they are "out to get him", and then when the proof comes out that he is lying, he apologizes and says he can't change the past and doesn't know what else to say.|
For example, doesn't this quote from 2006 sound familiar? “I had one too many beers and I sincerely apologize. I’m only human, and I made a mistake. I don’t know what else I can say.” (After it was proven he was, in fact, thrown out of a hockey game for being drunk and disorderly - a game he originally denied even being at.) Such arrogance to think you can get away with stuff like that and lie about it - particularly in this day and age when so much is photographed and recorded.
|Liza: I was born and raised there and lived there till I was in my early 30's, so Toronto is still very much "home" to me as well. Totally agree with your comments.|
Haili, I agree a new good looking mechanic is just what the show needs. |
Toronto will always hold a special place in my heart. I lived there for 1 1/2 decades and loved my time there. My sympathies to Torontonians for having to have someone like Rob Ford in their midst. He makes regular corrupt politicians almost look good by comparison which is no small feat. Jon Stewart had some hilarious but also insightful commentary about Ford on his Nov. 4 and 5 shows. I agree with Stewart - I'm not sure why anyone would want to enable Ford with his obvious problems by making excuses for him. Even if you like the guy (which I don't) - wouldn't you want him to get help? Toronto deserves better.
|MEGA SPOILER************I read recently that the character of Tina is going to be murdered and I think they are lining up the possible suspects by having her have a go at a lot of people. Then they can do a cliff hanger of who really killed her.************* Also Tine has had a lot of wrenching experiences recently which could unnerve her and cause this very negative behaviour. She has always been quick to fly off hte handle and this is just an escalation of her normal tendencies I think.|
|Agree with Leah, Tina & Tracy are two of kind. Both want to be top dog, they just have to see each other and the one up-manship begins. Also agree with you Leah re the media, they seem to take pleasure in pursuing a story relentlessly. If it is not NEW it is not news imo.|
|It may have been the "rent a womb" comments that originally annoyed Tina and the remarks about her dad just pushed her over the edge. Tina has always been a bit erratic and had that bout of depression when her dad died. She and David had a lot in common when they were together. Also, maybe the writers were stuck for an instant story line to fill in for departed characters.|
|When Tina and Dennis bought back the ring they were charged £150 more than Dennis received. Is this legal? anyone know how these things work? I thought pawn shops made their money on what was NOT retrieved by the owner. If it's legal it's outrageous - that's a 30%.|
Joanne: Yes! Sam Elliot (swoon!) And he does the voice-over for either Ford or Dodge pick up trucks! His voice is SOO deep and mellow!!LOL|
I also don't know why Tracy and Tina are at odds with eachother, but I am guessing Tracy has made other cracks about Tina "renting out her uterus"! Egads!
|Lynn: Or Sam Elliott ... he always made my heart jump! When he was in "Roadhouse" with Patrick Swayze, I thought I was in heaven! :-)|
|Well, I think Tina throws like a girl! :-)|
|I think Tina and Tracy fight because they're too much alike.|
|I'm trying to figure out the Tina/Tracy animosity too. Did they have some sort of problem a while back? I think maybe they did but I can't remember exactly what it was. Could even just be a comment Tracy made about Tina giving the baby to Gary and Izzy. Tracy is always nasty to everyone, and she seems to be particularly threatened by beautiful women, so she doesn't really need a reason to be nasty and confrontational with Tina! Tina doesn't need much encouragement to get feisty either.|
It seems as thought Tina is getting a bit more agitated everyday. The build up to her eventual departure I suspect. She is not being very rational lately. Good reason for Tommy taking off and good on Tyrone for telling her off.
I do not understand the Tina/Tracy animosity though. Is this the fall out from the pawn shop thing? Tracy is detestable but why would Tina bother? Rita is able to defend herself and take care of Dennis with her own methods. The writers must have something in mind to have these two in conflict -- like two vipers in a burlap bag. And IMO it is difficult to care much about either character.Like I said before people pleaser with a savior complex.
How long before even Rob gets so fed up with Tracy he dumps her? He does not look at her lovingly.
Tim is a creep.Sophie is right in this case.
and yes, to a mechanic -- how about 40+ -- nice looking in a George Clooney, John Dall, Clark Gable way -- that classic handsome man, that no matter what era one would take a second look, and think that is one good looking man or some such thought :-). KITTY BUSINESS
Walt is getting neutered today. My baby is growing up ****sniff :-). Abby is wondering where the heck he is. I am sure he'll do fine. Pick him up later today.
|Plaid Cat: I assume that Tina bringing David into the apartment was the last straw for Tommy, after all the surrogate stuff, nagging and being treated like dirt, so he took off in a huff. We know the real reason for the sudden departure so it's as good a reason as any for him leaving.|
|Haili, as usual I agree with you! Tyronne gave Tina the telling off she so needed! I'm getting so sick of her and her attitude. I thought she looked like a slob at the Rovers. The street is in dire need of some new characters. Could we please have a nice, good looking mechanic!|
|Ok, so getting back to Tommy. lol... I just think the way it happened was so quick. They could have expanded it a bit more. Like if Tommy had written Tina a letter explaining his feelings and saying he had to go away and think things through. Not just an argument with David. Since we never saw the scene with David and Tommy it seems thin.|
|Do we really want to give Toronto's mayor more publicity by discussing him here?|
Ooh..not seen tonight's show yet.|
My only comment about this idiot in Toronto is that he needs to be dealt with the same way that Tommy was dealt with on the show. I'm sick of people in the limelight being roll models for my daughter and younger who think it's ok to go out and behave in appalling ways in the hope that someone will make excuses for their behaviour. Quite disgusting when I take my dog walking and there are 8 to 10 yr olds watching him drunk on their phones high fiv-ing each other saying crack is whack...or back...whatever it was. I prefer someone that I can look up to. My little bit of Corrie is enough reality....and there's no swearing!
|What the garage needs is a hunky new mechanic. Tommy had no experience when he started but in soap land it only takes a short time to qualify! I assume that Kevin will be back in the new year too. As for Rob Ford, he's responsible for his own actions and choices but some still like to blame the media when all they do is report the news. If he gets drunk or stoned in public places it will make the news since he's a public figure.|
|Leah: But Leah, that's the whole problem: His private life has become his public life, right in front of our eyes! And, of course I was referring to news media. With cell phones capturing every move these days, it's unbelievable what gets caught and put out there on the news, internet, etc. When these guys are in the public eye, there is not much private life to be had, that's why he should have been watching his step and not cozying up to known gang members. I'm with Gail, he should be VERY, VERY worried. There is a certain decorum they are supposed to uphold when in public office and he hasn't been doing it. Okay, I admit the press shouldn't have been hanging outside his house that morning, but the ranting and raving on his driveway, and now this latest video - uggh, it's just unbelievable. He should have just ignored them and got into his car and driven off. I just feel the guy needs to step down, or step aside, get himself into rehab, get off the drugs and booze and start working out and stop eating the junk food or he's going to be dead!LOL He's a total mess. Come on when his own Mother is telling him to get help, you gotta know there's a problem.|
|Hey Jude. Good heavens, I wasn't at all suggesting that the media not cover stories, but there's a way to do so discreetly that allows the person whose private life is being invaded some dignity. Then there are, as you mentioned, talk-show hosts. They are part of the media as well. They're also in the public eye and I'm sure they wouldn't want to be treated the way they're treating Ford. Jokes from them have been broadcast and re-broadcast on Canadian news shows and on the internet. On topic. I wonder who'll become Tyrone's new assistant. Clearly he needs someone and Kevin won't be back for awhile. However, I can't think of anyone else on the street who has experience as a mechanic.|
|Hi Gail, Ofcourse the director does influence how the actors perform but they can only work with the talent each actor has to begin with. Some need very little direction, other may get all sorts of direction but never improve. I thought it strange that Tina would be wearing a tie died T-shirt at work while beside her Liz was all glamed up to the nines even if her bra strap kept slipping. Were they dresses that way to contrast one another or was Tina's drab appearance done to emphasize she was having a bad news day and was in a foul mood? Ofcourse with Tracy on her case I don't blame her.|
Tyrone told Tina a few home truths tonight when he talked about the way she treated Tommy and then brought David in to live with them without telling him. Now we know why Tommy left. Tracy has made an enemy in Tina and they both are spoiling for a fight for some reason. I guess life on the Street has been too peaceful for them lately.
Owen is right. He should dump Sally since he's not that into her. Surely she could do better, but that might mean looking around outside the Street.
|Corrie was on tonight at 6:30 in Ontario, before the hockey game. I don't know when it will play in Medicine Hat. Tina is beginning to come unglued I think!|
|Gail: I have heard there is more to come on old Robbie boy. Not sure if it's true yet. His own Mother has begged him to get counselling.|
OFF TOPIC: Leah, one of Rob Ford's closest advisors has weighed-in on the type of help Ford needs.
From the Toronto Sun online: TORONTO - Mayor Rob Ford’s lawyer has suggested that the embattled civic leader needs a “life coach” — not an addiction treatment councillor.
I'm not so sure that's going to do it.
|Leah: Wow! That IS the media's job to report what is happening to the best of their knowledge, not to be discreet and hold back "secrets"!!! The media are not treating it as a joke, they are very serious about all of it, it's the late night talk show hosts who are making the jokes! The fact that he just said this morning he doesn't care who knows is apalling to me. I feel for his family too, but he caused it, no one else. I hope any major business investments companies around the world were planning to make with the city of Toronto or Province of Ontario won't be affected by this, but they likely will be. The guy has no class, is delusional and needs an intervention. I believe that what has made RF a laughing stock was when he said "Yes I smoked crack cocaine. Probably in one of my drunken stupors". The only one to blame for Toronto looking bad right now is RF himself. He blames everyone for his problems but himself, he's done it time after time. So embarrassed to say I grew up in that great city that I miss so much.|
|The hoser connection with the Fords was written up in a rather decent article by John Doyle in the Globe and Mail yesterday, I think.|
Thanks for the heads up Chris! I didn't watch Wed. Corrie yet. But the good old PVR is set to record the *first run* so will adjust for the time slot change. Love those PVRs! :))|
It's scary to imagine the kind of enemies Rob Ford must have considering that he hangs out with drug dealers and gang members. He should be VERY worried. That recording was obviously made to use against him just as it was today. What else is out there? We will more than likely find out over the next while. I hope he's watching his back and that this latest revelation makes him consider resigning and checking himself into rehab asap. You can't help but feel sorry for his family because I believe he has school age children and you can only guess at what they must be facing when they go to school. I agree, the media is partly to blame for giving this so much coverage but they can hardly ignore it. It makes a change from boring old Mike Duffy! LOL
|Hey Jude, don't get me wrong. Rob Ford has admitted he made mistakes. I don't condone smoking drugs or being totally blathered in public. However, most people's mistakes don't make them laughing stocks (what is a laughing stock anyway?) around the world. I feel sorry about the way the media is broadcasting this and treating it as a joke when he might actually need help. The man is obviously repentant. He has a wife and small children who don't deserve this kind of attention. Furthermore, if the media cared about the image of Toronto, they'd be discreet rather than blabbing the whole situation to the world then blaming Ford alone for causing embarrassment to the city.|
Hi Pat, there was a crawler at the bottom of the screen in last night's episode. Corrie will be seen tonight at 6.30 pm ET. Not sure whether the hockey broadcast will effect all parts of the country. ☺
|Has anybody noticed that Coronation Street is not on at its usual time tonight? No announcement that I saw anywhere. I saw a notice about the news being moved because of a hockey game and looked at the schedule online. In Alberta it is scheduled for 3:30 but Shaw schedule does not show it.|
Chris and Monique: Thanks, I def missed that!|
Not feeling sorry for Rob Ford at all - big surprise, there's another video!LOL He's a dud and I hope he isn't re-elected next time around. It just keeps spiralling downward and I don't know where it's going to end, but it's pretty sad and embarrassing to watch.
|Leah, thanks for confirming I'm not imagining things.|
|Monique, no you're not imagining things. David did say Tommy went to the airport. Then when Tina looked for his passport and it was gone.|
|Actually, I think it's coming back to me now and David said that Tommy was on his way to the airport. Please tell me I'm not imagining things!|
About Tommy's departure - I would have really liked for him to have just disappeared...seriously, as in no one knows where he went or what happened to him. There could be a day or two of Tyrone wondering/being mad that he didn't show up for work and Tina wondering/being mad that he hasn't called her, etc... Then, eventually, they figure out that something must really be wrong but no one has a clue as to what it might be. That does happen in real life when someone suddenly disappears - sometimes they've run away or been injured or somehow been abducted. Often friends and family are at a complete loss to understand it.|
For fun, maybe they could have worked it in that Terry had just called or something. Not necessarily enough of a clue to indicate what ever happened to Tommy but enough to heighten the speculation and gossip.
Then, just leave it. Leave it for months or even years - completely unanswered. One day, when and if they ever want to bring the character of Tommy back (or have any family members show up looking for him), they have a ready-made back story to roll out.
Hey Jude, thanks! That would be nice.|
I thought I heard David tell Tina that Tommy was leaving the country before she checked for his passport. I thought that was the reason she checked if his passport was still there. But right now I don't remember and I would have to watch that scene again.
Hey Jude - Small SPOILER: In the October 28 UK Corrie episode, we learned where Tommy Duckworth had gone. We'll likely see this episode early next week. Here's the dialogue:
Dennis to Tina: Any word from Tommy? Tina: Yes, he finally called me back. Dennis: Where is he? Tina: Canary Islands. Dennis: What did he say? Tina: Said he needed a break... I'm sure he'll come back as soon as he gets his head together... He asked me if I'd calmed down. Dennis: And have you? Tina: Yes.
So now we know. ☺
|I'm tired of hearing people saying that Rob Ford has brought shame to Toronto from people all around the world. The media has done that by going way over the top in their coverage. Otherwise people all around the world wouldn't know or care that he got drunk at a street party on the Danforth or that he smoked crack. Especially if he only tried crack once, as he says. If he steps down, how will we know his successor doesn't have something shady in his/her private life that was not covered by the news but will be once the person is a public figure? I really think that people in public life should be allowed to make mistakes, apologize, and not make the same mistakes again. I feel sorry for him. If he needs help he should be allowed to get it in private and move on with his life and career. If the media chose to pounce on pretty much anyone, they'd eventually find something comprising to publish. Shame on the media.|
|Monique: I hope you hear from the company today! It would be great if they offered you the job! Yes, that would have been a great idea if they could have used the excuse T&T had a fight, etc. The other thing is, just because his passport is gone, doesn't necessarily mean he's taken off to another country right away. It just means he took everything he owned with him. Why is everyone making the assumption he's left the country, unless you all know more than I do at this point!LOL|
|Mayor Ford has improved journalism in Toronto. All media now have crack reporters.|
|Rob Ford is now known as Mayor McCrack!|
Mookie & Tommy: I hope everything is OK with you. Mark hasn't been dropping in as often either lately.|
I thought Liz looked pretty good too and like the way she takes charge at the pub. It should be interesting when Michelle comes back and wants to run things!
The Ford bros. remind me of Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.
Well, I just left a message with the HR person of that company to follow up on what's happening, so now I'm going to post here to take my mind off it. Spoiler***|
I think Tommy's exit could have been handled in a much more realistic way. It's true that the going-away-to-take-care-of-a-family-member scenario has already been used twice. And I do think it's realistic that Tina moving in her crazy ex would be the last straw for Tommy especially after the way Tina's been treating him. But packing up and leaving the country immediately without even talking to her? Please. Who decides to leave the country on a moment's notice unless they're fugitives? Tina and David's acting was very unconvincing but it's not their fault, they had to do their best with such an unrealistic twist. One way to handle it better would have been to see Tina explain to David or anyone else that she and Tommy had a massive row and Tommy stormed out to stay at a mate's. Then he could be staying at his mate's for a while and eventually Tina could say that he left Weatherfield. It's not that complicated and the writers had enough time to think about it.
Jeannie: Yes, I agree, the way the actor (Chris Fountain(?)) had to leave couldn't be helped, and that's probably exactly what happened re a storyline that had to be changed at the last minute. It actually seemed very natural to me too, so to me, I had no problem with it. Afterall, it's only a show!!LOL :)|
I'm another who's missing Mookie, and I do recall he said something about having to leave the GB for a while. Hope he's okay and comes back for a visit soon!
|I remember Mookie sayung he would be gone for a while but I don't think he explained himself. He has been gone for quite a while and I have missed his great sense of humor...hope he is okay.|
|I don't recall 'r'Mookie saying that he was going away for months. I do hope he's okay;-)|
Jeannie: I agree. It was well documented that he was written out of the show immediately. He's hardly likely to get a job offer in another Country, not the type to go save a dying newly created family member either so a spur of the moment walk out on Tina worked and solved the problem.|
|Just to prove great minds don't always think alike, Plaid Cat(Grin), I thought the way Tommy was written out was a nice save. The writers had very little time and very likely lots of potential plots that had to be re-worked or abandoned. Tina has been awful to Tommy at times, he's told her plenty of times what he thinks of David AND he's an ex boyfriend. To come home and find the little nutter moved in, without so much as a by your leave would be the tipping point for most people. No?|
|Lynn: Nope, Ford isn't well, mentally or physically. I keep expecting him to drop dead any day now.|
I am sure it has been pointed out in the press, or somewhere else but if Rob went by Bob, and he has a brother, Doug; we have Bob and Doug...MacKenzie, er Ford. SCTV has come to life at Toronto city hall. Remember Bob and Doug doing the "Great White North" skit on SCTV? Live now from TO city Hall -- Bob and Doug-- can't you just see the toques, back bacon and beer in the offices?|
All kidding aside, I hope that Mr. Ford gets some help. He does not look like a well man. Tina has been high maintenance when she stormed into the show as David's gobby girlfriend a couple of years ago. I thought Liz has been looking good.
The way Tommy left was abrupt but we all must remember: it's just a show and the sick relative business has been done a lot. The way Tina treated Tommy, David staying there could have been the last straw and he'd had enough.
TerryM: If Tracy has a son, she could name him after Doug.
Plaid Cat, right. Tommy's upset over something that could easily be worked out, so he grabs his clothes and his passport and leaves the country. I've heard of overreactions before, but that's ridiculous. Don't know what it is with David lately. I never used to have trouble understanding him, but I missed some of that frenzied conversation in which he told Tina Tommy left. Guess my ears are going.|
|I have to say I was underwhelmed by the way Tommy was written out of the show. He gets upset with David staying at the apartment and packs his bags and leaves. ? Why couldn't they say that his Grandma was sick and he had to go stay with her. Worked well for when they had to write Kevin out.|
|what a great show i watched it for years it the best Coronation Street it be there for years to come good luck everybody super website this is.|
|Susan, that's exactly what I've been saying and thank you for your comment! The actor doesn't have the choice in how they present their character or deliver their lines. It's the director who directs them! But when it comes to Kate Ford and Tracy, that apparently doesn't apply?? Why does it apply to Surrane Jones and not to Kate Ford? Pearl, the director has a great deal to do with the actor's delivery of the dialogue. That's a big part of their job.|
|Gail - I have seen Suranne Jones in other roles since Corrie, and she is quite a good actress. I think the Director may have a lot to do with how the actors deliver their lines. It's not always their own choice.|
|If Rob married Tracy, would he be Rob Ford?|
Tracy can be quite funny at times when's she's just so over the top and I got a few laughs at her tonight. Tina is pretty high maintenance as a bar maid and someone is always comforting her or holding her back from attacking whoever she's angry at and tonight it was Tracy. Liz reminds me of Bette these days. All she needs is some leopard print but she had a similar hair do tonight.
Sophie and Jenna were mumbling as usual and I wouldn't miss either one of them. Maybe they could join Tommy - wherever he went.
|The writers produce the s c r i p t s but how the diaogue is delivered is down to the actor. I think it is a combination of the two which develops the character. Some actors are so talented they convey emotions by a look alone, don't think Kate Ford is one of those.|
|Tracy has the closest thing to a friendship with Beth. I would like to see them develop that a little further and bring out a kinder gentler side to Tracy through that friendship. Kate Ford is one of 4 Corrie actresses to have won a Best Actress Award at the British Soap Awards; the others are Suranne Jones, Katherine Kelly and Alison King. Personally I couldn't stand Suranne Jones (Karen). She drove me nuts with her constant yelling and I thought her acting skills weren't great.|
|Lynn, I love your comments about Tracy and David. I think you've nailed it regarding both. It's not the writers' or directors' fault these characters suck like Hoovers. They can only do so much with the actors they're given. David has his gentler moments, but Tracy is completely one-dimensional and unbelievable, just as you said. You could write that a real-life goldfish climbs out of its bowl and dances a Highland fling, you could direct it to do so, but it wouldn't be able to so why bother?|
Lynn: As far as I can recall, Tracy has never been nice to anyone unless she was going to gain something from it. At least with David (up until now) he was a good Father to Max and does care very much about his wife and kid/s, his love for the family though does get a bit irrational..lol Tracy?...err...never. Infact, I don't think she even has a friend, she's just a consistently hateful person unless she has a villainous role as Chris said. Her character is very unbelievable to me. Make her more human and then bring out mad Tracy once in a while.|
|It's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a show! In real life they'd be broke by now but it's just a show!|
Personally, I believe that Kate/Tracy is written so one dimensionally, like David, because writers who have been with the show for any amount of time know who can carry a scene (Audrey,Roy, Haley, Gail, Rita, Owen, Liz to name a few character, I am not sure of their real names; and many of the other decent actors on the show)-- the two recent baddies (Tracy and David) cannot and they revert to writing to their strengths. They can play the nasty character with proficiency, another else is beyond their limited scope of acting ability IMO. I do not think hating them is a testament to their performance. In fact, they both grate on my nerves and I tend not to watch when they have much screen time -- with the same expression used repeatedly on their respective faces and the way they deliver their lines it makes me want to scream. On the opposite end, Roy, Haley, Fiz and Tyrone are doing a wonderful job conveying the emotions and chaos that illness can bring to our lives when something serious is diagnosed. And, I thought the same thing about the kids -- poor Emily-exhausting and the woman is getting a bit old for sitting with small kids.|
IMHO The PTB see David and Tracy as limited actors who can add that element to the show and have the writers play that up. Sensible if your actors are not strong, but it does make the character a bit boring and one-dimensional. I do not think there is much ability in both those cases and the writers know it, so all we see is David the slack jawed hair stylist, and Tracy grinning like the joker from Batman, esp when she has that red lipstick on -- shudder, with my glasses off it could be Caesar Romero on screen for all I know- same idiotic, painted red lipstick grin. Eeeeewwwwww
Kate/Tracy has recently split with her husband so she also needs the job.
|Chris: Good point you make about Tracy being a grinning pantomime villain when she's not involved in a storyline. Very true, but only because the writers haven't allowed Tracy any depth of character so when she's not in a storyline but just a character in a scene, just as Hayley would smile and be sweet, Tracy smirks and says something nasty. It's who she is. I wish they'd write a storyline for her that shows her to have a heart and a vulnerable spot. But I don't think they want to go there with her character. I think she'll forever be who she is, evil and unfeeling.|
|Frank: Friends of our family had a dog named Askim as well, but it was waay before Steve Martin! It was 1966!LOL|
When Kate Ford has been involved in major storylines, she plays the nasty girl really well. I'm thinking of the storyline with Roy being the baby daddy and the Charlie Stubbs storyline.
I find that when Kate Ford is not involved in a major storyline, she just becomes a pantomime villain with an evil grin.
Kate Ford is frequently nominated for the Best B itch award in a soap. In 2004 and 2005, Kate Ford was awarded a British Soap Award for Best B itch.
In 2007, she was awarded two British Soap Awards, one for Best Actress and another for Best Storyline, which was shared with Samia Smith and Bill Ward.
|Jan- I believe your friend got the dog's name from the old "Steve Martin" movie "The Jerk". Personally I always a great name for a porn star woud be "Oliver Holz".|
|Your welcome Hey Jude! I didn't mean to repeat what you said but your post appeared when mine did! I was typing it while you were. ;) Gee, for someone who doesn't think acting suits her, Kate sure does a good job of portraying an evil sociopath. I thought she was great in the scene where she tries to tell Roy that she's sorry about Hayley's illness. It was hard for Tracy to do that but she did try, and when Roy bit her head off, in usual Tracy fashion she didn't feel he was justified at all and she stomped off. She gave it just the right amount of concern that one would expect from Tracy!|
|Haili: Ahem! Because it's a soap!LOL we obviously aren't *supposed* to like everyone, regardless of whether or not they own a shop. Of course you or I wouldn't shop in a place where the clerk is as nasty as Tracy. *It's just a show*!LOL|
|haili, probably because the writers make them go into Tracy's shop. ;) This is where we have to say to ourselves "It's a show and in order to drive the story, they go into Tracy's shop and do business with her" LOL I know what you mean haili, but I think in time, Tracy's lack of anything resembling a personality and respect for her customers is going to put her out of business. Someone compared Roy and Hayley to Tracy. They're lovely people, warm and caring and of course we love them! We are SUPPOSED to love them. They're played by excellent actors who are given much more of a range of emotions to play in which to flesh out their characters. Tracy unfortunately isn't given that same range of emotion. She's just pure evil and nasty! Dawn Acton was pretty evil as Tracy too. I remember her in the Samir storyline and she was a total nasty little bitch who needed a good slap! So I think that if you want to blame someone it should be the writers for not giving Tracy a storyline that could show another side of her. I have long thought that they should have something happen that could give us a glimpse into Tracy's vulnerable side. I think there's a lot of Blanche in Tracy. Apparently Blanche wasn't a very nice person in her younger days. I have a vague memory of her being pretty cold and mean to Deirdre when she was young back in the early days.|
|In an interview in Britain, Kate Ford said even she didn't think acting suited her.|
|Gail: Thankyou for confirming what I was saying! :)|
|Gail: I agree that the actress who plays Tracy does a good job of making us hate her, but what I don't understand is why anyone would bother going into that shop. Who would want to do business with her when they could go someplace else? We know there are other pawn shops since they've been used before by Lewis.|
|When I read the comments about Tracy, it just proves that Kate Ford is doing her job well! We are NOT supposed to like Tracy and they don't want to give Tracy ANY redeeming qualities at all. Come on, this is a woman who coldly bashed a man's skull in while she smiled at him, while he begged for help after the first blow didn't kill him. You don't see another side to Tracy because she doesn't have one! Blaming Kate Ford's acting is really unfair IMO. She's only playing Tracy the way the writers have created her. If this wasn't the Tracy that they want she wouldn't be playing her this way because she's a professional actress, she does what the director instructs her to do. If Kate Ford has been able to extract the kind of hate for Tracy that we all feel, then I think it's safe to say that Kate has done her job well. You don't see another side to Tracy, because so far, the writers haven't decided to show us one. It has nothing to do with Kate Ford not being able to act in more than one dimension! That may happen one day. I'd like to see that too. Then Kate Ford could prove she can act because we would see something other than Tracy's usual demeanor.|
|Leah: But that's the only type of person she portrays - evil! Her character never seems to have another side to her, so who's fault is that, the writers? The producers? As Gayle said, she has no redeeming qualities, we never see her being really nice to anyone, and if she is, there's usually an ulterior motive behind it. I do see what you are saying though. I just kinda wish they'd get rid of her altogether!LOL :)|
|I don't think Kate Ford is responsible for Tracy's one-dimensional character, it's probably the writers who want it that way. I don't think an actor has much say in what their characters say and do. And the writers did want to create an evil character. Dawn Acton used to play Tracy for many years and then she left the show (I don't know if it was her choice or not). A few years later the character of Tracy was brought back and Dawn Acton had to re-audition to get her role back but they gave the role to Kate Ford instead. They wanted a much more evil Tracy and felt that Dawn Acton wouldn't be able to convey the appropriate level of evilness.|
|I agree completely with the comments regarding Tracey. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Who in their right mind would do business with the likes of her! She is so rude and obnoxious to everyone she comes across. Why would Rob be remotely interested in her? We never see Amy anymore who is looking after her? While watching her scenes last night I kept thinking what is the point of this nasty woman? I cannot understand why she was brought back to the show. Who the hell is she to judge Tina - Tracey sold her child to Roy and Hayley and murdered her boyfriend!|
|Hey Jude and Julie. Welcome to the club of Tracy-haters. Hey Jude, sorry to disagree, but I don't believe that Kate Ford is 'doing a great job of making people hate her'. If she were doing even a passable job as an actress she'd be able to show us another side of her character once in awhile so we could occasionally have some sympathy for her. However, she fails miserably. I sincerely hope they don't have her storylines tangled in with the story of Hayley's demise. That would ruin everything.|
|Pearl: Re "unseen babysitter*. Some would find fault with that no doubt!! Better to use a character we all know!LOL :)|
I agree with our Gail, Leanne was ready to drop Nick in a heartbeat to get back w/Peter, so why is she so judgemental? and Kylie selling little Max to Becky......|
I realize these characters 'try' to do better over time but they are far from being saints themselves.
My name is Andre Proulx and I am hosting an event this weekend in Ottawa, Ontario Canada called Corrie Crazy Ottawa. I have included my website if you would like to view the event details. I have a good crowd coming for the first one in Ottawa.
|Lynn, Leah and Hey Jude: I totally agree with all of you ladies about Tracy. Without going deeper on the quality of acting, her roles are totally unbelievable. Has she really palmed Amy off onto Steve 60% of the time and Deidre 40% of the time so that she can move in with Rob. Not one person has commented about this on the show. I understand there needs to be a permanent 'nasty' girl on the street but they make her out to be some great temptress and she looks terrible. A bar of soap would not go amiss. By far the worst character for a long time.|
Something that stuck with me from last night's epi was Fiz & Tyrone saying to Hailey once she had rallied in hospital that 'their sweet girls' were with Emily. Hailey urged them to go home but we next saw them in the Rovers. Pursumably Hope and Ruby were still with Emily. Quite a lot to expect from an 80 something year old. You think the writers could have use some other unseen babysitter.|
I see crack begining in Sophie & Jenna's relationship. For a while now Jenna seems to get along better with Sally not in a romantic way but as friends. Now that Liz has Steve pulling his weight as the pub, maybe Lloyd will need someone else on the switch at Streetcars. New job for Jenna maybe??
|Leah: I agree with you and others about Tracy. I have never liked her, though the actress does a great job of making us hate her, and that is the whole idea!!LOL That Grinch smile she has just drives me up the wall and I also wish she'd wash her hair once in a while! Haven't seen last night's show - am about to now.|
|Lynn, glad to hear we have the same opinion of Tracy/Kate Ford. Dreadful character, dreadful acting. Having her in the show is an insult to fans who appreciate the good acting that's evident in the characters of Roy and Hayley and many others. I simply can't stand Tracy and wish they'd dump her forever. Rob needs to go too. He's either just plain stupid for getting mixed up with Tracy (despite Steve's warning) or he's as evil as she is. I'm glad the thing with Steve and Tracy seems to be over for good. If he got her pregnant again, I'd literally heave my guts out.|
OFF TOPIC: Monique I feel for you! I have applied to over 200 jobs here in Hamilton and so far have had only 1 interview! There are hundreds of people applying to the same jobs and it is very hard to stand out in the crowd. I am getting a bit desparate! I have to keep cashing in my RRSP's and am getting gouged in taxes! The money I worked so hard to save! I lose half. I think I will not get any more of those - I'm leaning toward keeping money under the mattress!|
Have a great day!
|The entire Nick/David/Kylie situation is such a tangled web of lies and deceit. They all thought their relationships were finished the night it happened. If Leanne is honest with herself (which she never is!) she would admit that she was ready to dump Nick a few minutes before the wedding if Peter had said he wanted her back so she's not much better than Nick, and a couple of years before, she had an affair with Nick while engaged to Peter! I also don't quite understand why David is so paranoid about the murder accusation. He didn't orchestrate the confrontation, Nick did and I believe there are witnesses to that. He was in the car too, he was just as much at risk as Nick was and he didn't arrange for the lorry to show up when it did. They both could have been killed. David is only guilty of stalking Nick, nothing more. That's bad enough, but that wasn't life threatening to Nick. David could face charges for that and he probably should. As far as the seatbelt, I'm not sure why he undid it unless it was just something the writers threw in there to add to the drama. He could have just done it impulsively. Nick wasn't thrown from the vehicle anyway which the seatbelt is designed to prevent. The truck hit directly on Nick's side of the car so he probably would have sustained that head injury even with a seatbelt on. (Were there any airbags deployed?, I don't believe so!) If there had been, they might have prevented or at least reduced the seriousness of his injury.|
IMO, David did try to kill Nick. It is like shooting someone, it may not be first degree murder but if you held the gun and took a shot, it is probably at least manslaughter. David had intent to hurt Nick and tried to grab the wheel to do something. He had intent to injure, but was it intent to kill? I think he would have, and the pillow scene at the hospital gives the viewer (it did me, anyway) a chance to consider how far he would go to hide his actions and/or get his way.|
Tracy is such a dismal actress and her one note character make it hard to watch her. I have never been able to stand the character or actress from the beginning of my corrie addiction. The smug nasty looks are as bad as David's slack jawed emoting.
My question is: are we being set up for Kiley/Nick to get together? They appear to be clicking quite well, better than with their current partners, IMO.
|My daughter and I were watching Last Tango In Halifax Sunday night when the actor who played Alec Gilroy appeared in a scene. He looked well and no older than when he was on Corrie.|
|They had to know if they involved Tracy, the word about Rita's ring would get out almost immediately as she cares about only herself. I bet Rob is rethinking that hookup ( if it was real life of course). Speaking of which, I was making conversation with a computer geek's girlfriend ( waiting for him) while he was working on our computer, explaining what's happening on Coronation St. + he was worried it was about real life the way I was talking ( trying to kill the brother, who's the father, sleeping with the brother in a one night stand, etc.). That used to happen to me when I heard people at work talk about TY+R ( The Young and the Restless) which I didn't watch and I'd arrive wondering if they were talking about real life.|
Alec: I don't think that the writers are leading us in that direction of David intentionally trying to kill Nick. David was not forthcoming with the facts and was seemingly panicked when Nick appeared to be getting better as the dirty secrets might finally get out. There was also the hesitant 'pillow' scene in the hospital. I can't recall what David said to the Police exactly but he did lie in the hope that Nick would not make it and therefore his secret would be safe. That's my take on it anyway. At most it would be Perverting the course of Justice I would think. None of it has gone to Court so that's my best bet.|
I don't think consciously David was trying to kill Nick but his thoughtless, impulsive action could have killed him and led to a lot of pain and misery for Nick.|
I got my first Christmas card today. Ho ho ho. I will soon be in full Scrooge mode after a few more weeks of ads and music.
|Yes, I intend to call them on Thursday. I'll give them a couple more days. But that won't change the outcome. I just can't believe I'm going to be so unlucky again, after they were so enthusiastic.|
|You can say one thing for Rob Ford. At least there's never a dull moment with him. Apologies to anyone who comes from one of those boring, sensible cities where the mayor just does his job.|
|Monique, ditto what Hey Jude said. If you call, at least you'll know. It's an accepted practice. Continued good wishes in your job search. Alec, I agree that David wasn't really trying to kill Nick. When he made the car swerve, the lorry could have been coming from the other direction and hit the passenger's side. I do, however, think David was negligent in grabbing the wheel and undoing Nick's seatbelt. I suppose a case could also be made for the notion that Nick was partially responsible for the crash. I think he should have pulled off the road and stopped as soon as the argument started to heat up. Both of them were too distracted to think straight.|
|Monique: I've been out of the loop as far as working goes, but would it be considered out of order to call them, to show them you are still very much interested in the job? I'm thinking I would call if I were you. Surely by now you deserve an answer.|
I still haven't heard from the company that called me with great feedback last time. It's been two weeks since they called me to tell me that my references are all positive and I'm a finalist. She was so enthusiastic and didn't want to let me go too long without any news because I was a finalist and now nothing. She said that they still had to check the references of their other candidates so maybe it was unrealistic of her to say that she would get back to me in a week. But surely by now they must have finished checking the references. She told me they would see one more candidate and that's it. I wasn't worried because the job is exactly what I used to do and not many people have that kind of experience and I am already a finalist. This is torture. I have never come this close before. I know that anything can happen, but I have had so many unlucky experiences with something going wrong at the last minute and I thought surely this can't be happening again. I'm trying to put it out of my mind but it's almost impossible.
Hi All! (this may be a Canadian spoiler)|
I have a question/comment: Why are we being led to believe that David tried to kill Nick? He didn't, he just tried to swerve the car to stop Nick from driving back home to tell all. I dont think there was ever an intention to collide with another vehicle - he was in the car too. Why are the writers ignoring this point? or am I missing something?
|Jayne: I agree. It would really bug me to have to see gun ads. Things have got crazy in the U.S. and I'm afraid it's getting worse here, so Christmas ads would be much better than the gun ads.|
|Although Christmas ads can be annoying, I can usually ignore them. The other night I was watching a comedy on the Fox network when a commercial for guns came on. Talk about scary. One minute I'm watching "Modern Families" and the next being offered all sorts of assault weapons. Give me Christmas ads over that any day.|
|Terry M: Ha ha! Can you imagine if the police come to the door and the dog barks?|
Hey Jude: I don't mind the Christmas crap in the stores and always shop early; it's the ads and music that bug me. Some people just can't wait to decorate and put the trees up in November so I understand why the stores have their stuff out. I liked the olden days when nothing much happened until Dec. so I guess I'll have to try to ignore the music and ads and hit mute a lot.|
Is anyone at all as grouchy and mean as Tracy? It's just not realistic to have a character so one-sided. She never shows any caring about others at all except (very rarely) Amy.
|Jan - Must have been interesting if they ever had to take it to the vet: "Dog's name please?" :-)|
No word of a lie, I had a friend who's dog was called S#&thead. It liked to escape from the house a lot and the neighbours were in stitches when my friend, usually half-cut, would yell out "Come back, Sh#*head!!!"|
I too, liked Sally's approach to Roy. We don't get to see much of that side of her.
I read that Hayley will be on the show until January. Spoiler**|
I thought that Sally was very sensitive the way she talked to Roy. She was very candid about how her experience affected her but made sure to tell Roy that she didn't pretend to know what he was feeling. It seemed to do Roy a lot of good to listen to Sally.
|I notice the Christmas ads today too. They don't waste any time moving on to the next marketing campaign to remind us to start spending our money! Shirley, I'm not certain but I think Hayley will be around until Christmas at least. It wouldn't surprise me that her death will be part of the special Corrie Christmas episodes that they do every year, focusing on some storyline that has been building up to a conclusion and Hayley's death would probably be the likely focus this year. It will be extra sad because it's Christmas. :( They've probably already filmed her death scenes or will soon. I don't think I'll be able to watch it.|
|SPOILER That glass she was drinking from sure splintered badly, usually I don't see glasses break that badly. Terry or someone, do we know how much longer poor Hayley will be around as a character in Corrie?|
|We also had friend's whose dog was named "Askim". I used to love watching the responses!!LOL :)|
|I had a friend who's dog was named Who...I am embarrased to say how many times I ask him what his dog's name was!|
|Haili: Just look at all the stores - Halloween is over, so the next day Christmas crap goes up. It's been like that for years|
I appreciate the acting and the scene with Sally and Roy was good but when Hailey collapsed, I was hoping it was the end. This story line is too depressing to go on for much longer and it hits too close to home for many people.
I thought Liz might be going to have a costume malfunction for awhile and her assets almost popped out - and so did Barry's eyes!
I'm already tired of the Christmas ads and there are almost 2 months to go. It would have been nice to enjoy fall a bit more before they started. The mute button will get quite a workout.
|I wish I could say I was in tip top shape Susan, LOL, I'm in reasonable shape I suppose. I usually pack my bins so that the heavy stuff isn't all in one bin. I'll split it between two of them and they're easier to carry. Bin strategy LOL|
Gail, I have a couple of bins, but I find them too heavy to lift myself. You're definitely in better shape than I am.|
I rarely shop in the Loblaws near me because it's much more expensive than most other stores. But, if I do go there, I use the self check out. I use my own bags, especially if my son is watching, but if I use their bags in the self checkout they have a screen come up at the end when you're paying, asking how many bags you want to buy. I don't want to buy any, even if I'm using their bags, so I check off none. In Toronto paid for bags for quite a while, and I'm sure that increased the use of the re-usable bags. But, the esteemed mayor, Rob Ford, got rid of that charge. Some stores still charge, and it bugs me so I try to remember to bring the bags.
|Gail: Thanks and good point! I'm another who does the speed limit, and sometimes a little more, but I always stay in the right hand lane. I quite often drive the highway between Mission and Maple Ridge, and some of the people who drive that length of road scare the B-Jesus out of me. Parts of that highway are single lane traffic, and it's just crazy how some people drive. I'll be doing 10 km over the limit, and they are passing me at 110 kmh, it's just plain scary, and now some have written in to our local paper asking why the speed limit which is 80 can't be raised to 100. If they were allowed to do 100, they'll for sure push it to 120 or 130, truly a frightening thought.|
|Lisa: Thanks! Much appreciated. Will check it out.|
|I meant grocery stores. I hate typos.|
|Interesting, here all the major groceries stores still bag our groceries for us. For the past year or two we have to pay 5 cents per plastic bag if we don't bring our own bags. Gail, here you would never find anyone driving under the speed limit anywhere! I know of only 2 or 3 gas station in this city where they still pump your gas. So yesterday when I went on my drive in the country I stopped at a local gas station that still pumps gas for you. Even when there were many gas stations with service, my father frowned upon people who didn't pump their own gas because it was more expensive to get service! Even in Cape Breton there are more and more self-serves. I love to go to a station with service in Cape Breton, because you not only get service but usually a warm greeting and a joke or a story. I used to go out of my way to go to one particular gas station because they always made me laugh so much I would still be laughing when I left. It's s shame they're disappearing.|
Joanne, here is one place you can make your own stickers. There are lots more and this one is Canadian.
|Off topic: I had a bumper sticker (courtesy of a voluntary senior drivers' seminar that I attended some time ago - not very useful) which said "Neighbourhood Pace Car. I drive the limit". Unfortunately, it wore out and had to be removed, so I'm hunting for another. On that note, I decided years ago that if I ever find out where to get bumper stickers made, I'd get two, for the attention of those drivers who tail-gate me (in the slow lane, where I always drive unless I have to turn left, BTW). One would say "This car is not Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, it does not fly", and the other would say, "If you got any closer, we'd have to get married, and you wouldn't like that". Oh, well, I can dream, can't I?|
|They bag your groceries for you at the Zehrs where I shop and you have to pay for the bags if you don't bring your own. I have been using plastic bins for years so I never buy bags anyway. It's not the money, it's just the bins are so much easier and faster than schlepping a bunch of bags from the car into the house. They're much easier to pack too, I highly recommend bins! Hey Jude, one of my pet peeves is people who drive below the speed limit in fast/passing lane and block traffic. They just sit there and cruise along when they should move to the right/slower lane. I'm not a speeder as such but I do drive the speed limit or slightly above and it's very frustrating when people use that lane to cruise along. I wish they'd learn the rules and learn to drive!|
|Re Superstore: I don't mind bagging my own groceries - at least the bags are clean and I have never had problems with the customer behind me and their stuff getting piled up. Some Safeway clerks really don't know how to pack things like chips, bread and eggs. I've just cringed when they've tried to squeeze all 3 of those items in the same bag, and have told them to stop and use another bag!LOL I absolutely refuse Costco's idea of putting everything in worn out, crappy old boxes - THAT I refuse to do, and some of their items are just too big to ever use in my kitchen, esp spices and things like that.|
When I shop in our local No Frills where you do you own bagging, I never purschase more than I can put in one handheld basket. The first time I bought a trolley full of groceries it was hell to try and bag the stuff because it piled up against the previous customer's groceries because the checkout clerk had not used the second moving slipway.|
I collect cans and bottles for charity, but I always presort everything before I take it in. A couple of days ago I had collected my cash, and I noticed an elderly couple trying to sort their recycleables into the separate blue bins so I helped them out as I cou;d see it was the first time they had done anything like it. I was pleased to note that a new employee there had gone over to help with their third box. I am wondering how long it will be before he learns "how it is done".
Plaid Cat: I understand what you meant about senior drivers and recall when my dad used to drive. He'd stick his head out the car window and curse at whoever annoyed him! I at least keep the window shut and mutter to myself.|
I also hate bagging my own groceries but we have to do it in almost all the stores here. The store where they bag them charges more and the Walmart is farther across town. It is a treat these days to have someone pack groceries and someone mentioned an attendant who takes them to the car! I haven't seen that in decades. Remember the olden days when someone pumped your gas, checked the oil and cleaned the windshield? Those days are long gone. I pay cash for gas and groceries but just let the cashier make change. Heaven forbid that I hold up the line, though the ones with credit cards take longer IMO, fiddling around, signing things and re-
trying to get the thing to work. The gas stations had a scam with credit cards and there were problems with having to cancel them and get new ones so I don't take that chance. It's much easier to go to the bank machine and I don't pay any fees.
|I heard that story about the deer also, in fact I think the radio conversation is on Youtube somewhere. Chris don't get me started on Superstore. I refuse to shop in a place that will not bag my groceries. Superstore is a place that it takes 1 to shop, 1 to watch the screen so they do not rip you off and 4 to be a support system to bag your groceries. haili & Daphne, I did not mean to pick on seniors, it is just some who refuse to believe that they are a menace on the road. ( which was my ex's Grandpa). I have a bumper sticker on my car. It says " I am doing the speed limit but so sorry to be driving so slow in front of you". I have had people roar up behind me, and then back off. I am sure they read it.|
Leah: Did she think moving the deer crossing signs to the school zones would help the deer to learn to read them? Egad! I really do wonder about people sometimes.|
Reminds me of a visit to LA years ago, when my friend's daughter was expecting her first baby and, as an aspiring fashing designer, had it all figured out that she'd do her dress designing when the baby slept in the afternoons. When her mother and I exchanged "looks", the daughter announced very seriously that she'd read all the books on baby care. I told her, "Beverly, there's only one problem with your plan. The baby can't read."
|Lynn: Like Susan, I don't pay any bank fees for using my debit card or the bank's ATM, and I use the former all the time when shopping and the ATM to pay all my bills and when I need cash. My bank has just recently started charging for supplying printed duplicate cheques (which I prefer), but no charges for clearing cheques. Susan has a point. You should perhaps check with your bank to see if you're missing out on some free service.|
Nancy, thank you for that link. I got a really good laugh out of it. I have another one. In 1983 I worked in London England for the Summer and I got a job at the British Health Education Council. Apparently shortly before I started most of the staff got sick with the flu. There was a hand written sign on the door of the Health Education Council that said "Closed due to illness" and it was in the paper.|
We have a problem here with pedestrians walking straight ahead like tanks and expecting others to get out of the way. Sometimes they will actually move right in front of you, blocking you and expecting you to get out of the way. I almost got into a fight once with a woman who did this to me at the pharmacy. She stepped right in front of me so that I could not move but I refused to move aside. So we stood there facing each other like in an old Western until I said Well, somebody is going to have to move. This problem is terrible in grocery stores, with even the store clerks doing it to customers. And people plow into you with their carts. I decided to go for a walk once even though it was raining. I just took my umbrella. I started noticing that it was easier to walk than usual, then I realized that it was because there was no one on the sidewalk. I think Montreal is probably the worst for rudeness. I tend to be very patient with seniors and their quirks of blocking aisles, etc. and insisting on paying with the exact change and slowly counting the coins. I guess I understand their being of a different age and it irritates me much less than the rude people mentioned above. Another thing is people who walk their dogs with those long extended leashes and let the dog get in front of me and expect me to move out of the way for the dog!
I know it's almost thirty years away but I dread the day some younger person might have the right to stop me from driving. All I can say is thank God I don't have kids! I think people should back off unless the risk is very high. I mean if I was going blind or shaking or something I think I would have enough sense to stop driving myself.
Speaking of which, it was sunny here today and I went for a long drive in the country. I took a secondary road that follows the river and sang along to my favorite songs. I love doing that, and hope that no one will ever stop me from doing so and that my health will always allow me to do it. One car almost ploughed into me and I had to honk, but I was too busy swerving to avoid him/her to look at the demographics of the driver.
|Speculation on who's couch David will end up on - Tina's ofcourse now that Tommy has conveniently moved out. Although that was not pre-planned, the storyline of Stella and Gloria working at the Bistro gives Leanne the perfect excuse to go visit Toyah for the forseeable. Wonder if we will see any scenes of Simon staying with Peter and Carla? It has been some time since we were invited into the ex-bookies flat, maybe even back to Leanne's 'on the way to wedding' pop in at Christmas time.|
|Joanne, loved your comment about deer having more sense than people. Not long ago my brother phoned and he was laughing so hard he could barely speak. He'd heard on one of these blooper shows a true story of a woman calling a radio talk show to complain about the number of deer who crossed the road on her drive home. She didn't like constantly having to watch out for them and, at times, stop and wait for them to cross. Here was the suggestion she actually made to improve the situation. Move the deer crossing signs! Furthermore, she thought the best place to move them to would be school crossings because traffic already had to stop there anyway!|
|I've got a dog with no nose. How does he smell? Terrible.|
|I have a dog called Askim. What is your dog's name? Askim!|
Liz gets to connect with old aquaintances and pushed a little crack into Anna and Owen referring to when he had Jim beaten up when he was dating Liz. On top of his recent strong arm tactics, that's only going to add to the strain. Roy tried to break the surprise to Hayley but everyone else got in the way. Just when you're so anxious to tell, too! Aww, wasn't Hayley pleased when he finally told her and didn't Jane look a bit sad. Maybe her husband isn't the romantic sort. Roy still isn't driving too well but practice makes perfect! Blackpool was bittersweet. Roy built an itinerary but had a moment of panic when it blew away! But he fullfilled Hayley's every whim and dream including a dance on the beautiful ballroom floor. It was pure gold, wasn't it? Roy applying physics to the toy select machine; Roy wading in the freezing water; Losing his rag over the ballroom being closed; The conversation about the tide, full of meaning; Grumpy Roy at the fortune teller; But you know, the fortune teller did draw the Death card and realized what was going on and wasn't it lovely? She arranged for the ballroom to be opened for Hayley. Looks like the manager is her son! It all turned around so fast. One day, Roy and Hayley were loved up in Blackpool and by the end of the next day, they were split apart over a big, big disagreement. See, Hayley's friend Jane is now nearing the end of her life and she realizes that she wants to control her own end. Roy violently disagrees with her plan to end her own life. It's a tough thing to accept. Hayley put on a cheery face for Jane, difficult as it was, but Roy was horrified, knowing of course, that will be Hayley before long. With the idea that Jane was reliving past memories, it put a shiver up Hayley's back. She sure wouldn't want to relive some of hers and that's part of what contributed to her decision. He keeps avoiding talking to her about her limited future. He knows it's coming and he's not exactly sticking his head in the sand but he just can't handle it. She finally managed to sit him down but she really took the feet out from under him when she said she intended on ending her own life when things become too much. Roy escaped when Fiz and Tyrone arrived but really, now he needs to process it but he just couldn't. Not yet. I can understand his point of view but hers too. There was some really powerful scenes there. Will it come to showing her on screen doing something to meet her maker? I guess time will tell. Part of me thinks that though they have brought up this topic, it won't come to that at her end. The Christening was kind of sad too, watching a marraige blow up. But satisfying as well, seeing David having to answer for his dirty deeds. Kylie seems to be appeased for the time being about Tina. How long did that last? Not long. I guess they were going to take the dvds and watch them at Eva's house. And Kylie found the letter. It's good news in one way. At least she knows it's David's baby but she also knows he discovered her fling. Nick tried to make excuses about David but Kylie is still suspicious and David burned the letter, but it's too late to herd those cats back into the bag. Kylie realized the letter had been with David at the hospital and since she knows what was in it, and she realizes that Tina knows everything. David knows about the fling. Nick admitted it to protect Leanne and revealed to her David's vengeance. What a shock for Kylie to find out her husband is capable of something like that! Since very few ceremonies on Coronation Street go smoothly, it was a given that the christening not end well. Even the vicar looked as interested in the goings on as Norris! The truth is now out there, the affair and David's hate campaign and the accident. David's whole family is against him now and rightly so. He tried to kill the golden boy! Gail's words were pretty harsh and only proved David's point about being second best (her wishing she had had the abortion, threatening the police) Kylie wants nothing to do with him and also, rightly so. You can well imagine how shocked Kylie must be finding out about what David had done. Everyone else too. David glosses over the situation to Maria making it sound like he left Kylie. Meanwhile, gossip is all over the Street probably thanks to Norris. Audrey is borderline sympathetic but she won't accept that David blames Nick for nearly wrecking his life. She threw David out and fired him though you could see it was difficult for her. He's at rock bottom now with nothing to lose. Nice little scene by the canal when he was talking to Roy, baring his soul. But I do hope he and Kylie find their way back to each other in the end because they really do work well together but I also do hope she makes him suffer first! It always amazes me to see some of the guests at these things, christenings and weddings. I can understand Sally and Maria being there. But Norris and Mary? And who were all those strangers behind them all at the church? Buffet scavengers? The Vicar was kind to David at least. I guess David injuring himself on a brick wall was better than him putting his fist through the Kabin window. Eva's not too happy with Kylie, either and Leanne is now in London with Toyah. Needing space, as you would. She'll probably forgive Nick but if Kylie forgives David, it won't be for a very long time. Gail may also eventually forgive David as it's her child but that isn't going to come easy and she'll never forget either. Meanwhile he needs a place to stay. Maybe he can bunk in with Roy! It's hard for Leanne not to fuss over Nick, after what he's been through but it's got to be equally hard on Nick, needing so much help still but wanting to be indepenedent. I bet she won't be fussing over him now! She knows she's partly to blame but he lied to her when she confronted him directly months ago and continued to lie. Nick is going to be difficult, you can tell, with that quick temper. Tina is still wearing that ratty old army jacket. Dennis and Rita's ideas of holidays are vastly different. Rita has no spirit of adventure and Dennis would love the open road. I suppose at their age, it's probably less of an adventure. A cruise it is. What a coincidence, Dennis gets a big back tax bill and he's got Rita's antique engagement ring in his pocket (it was his mother's, remember?). He told Gloria he wouldn't go to Rita, I was waiting for him to ask Gloria for a loan! Dennis's solution to his debt is to pawn Rita's engagement ring (which was Elsie's). Oh is that going to blow up in his face! It was pretty stupid doing it right under Rita's nose to someone like Tracy Barlow. Contrived plot device. Michelle isn't pleased with Steve. As per usual. At least she and Liz are in agreement about Steve being an idiot. Steve's heart is in the right place though. Life at the pub isn't starting off at the best. Michelle and Liz are still slagging off Steve and Barry is stomping around throwing his wedding ring out of his pram. Michelle is still suspicious of what happened between her parents. It was only a matter of time, and not much of it at that, that sees Barry chatting up Liz but she gave him a firm knockback. Michelle is still trying to find out what her father has done and her father is determined to play the innocent. Ah but she sussed it. This divorce is over Mother finding Daddy in bed with another woman, the one woman her mother hates and it was more than a vague flirty look. Sounds very much like he's got a habit of infidelity. Lines of the week:|
Liz "My roots are here" (You take them wherever you go, my dear)
Hayley "Roy's a mad, impetuous fool and I love him!" Roy "I have scheduled in room for spontenaity. There is a window in between 4:45 and 5:30"
Hayley "Is Simon Cowell's waistband really that high? A few more inches and he'll be talking out of his fly!"
Vicar: "Do you reject the devil? Do you repent?" (Kylie couldn't stand David's hypocricy and blew the whistle)
Kylie "Do you really want me to spell it out in front of everyone?" Norris "Well I think you should!"
Mary "Do you think all of this will impact on the buffet arrangements?" Roy "I will say, performing the foxtrot with Norris was one of the stranger experiences of my life"
Roy "I very much doubt that President Kennedy had cause to consult her. And if he did, it's hardly an advertisement for her psychic abilities!" Kylie "I'd still be living with a psycho, but as long as you're all right"
Steve "50 Shades of pie! That's my fantasy night in."
Roy "I'm talking" Hayley "But you're not listening"
Hey Jude - As long as he doesn't step down on my foot! :-(|
I have a dog named Peeve. He's my pet: Peeve!
I also have a dog named Mega. But be careful, Mega bites!
|*~* Happy Birthday JudyQ! ☺ Enjoy‼ *~*|
I thought it was a bit much for Hailey to think Roy should accept the idea suicide as soon as she mentioned it. If she wants to do it she shouldn't involve him or expect instant understanding, but we should remember that her anxiety level must be high and she won't always be thinking clearly.|
The thing to remember about Rob Ford, is that he's not our mayor - or at least he's not mine - so the voters will have a chance to turf him out even if he doesn't resign - unlike the senators - but we won't go there! It's like watching another soap or reading a novel lately.
|Okay here's another one: Who thinks Rob Ford should step down?|
Wow! We are really on a roll here, and to think it started with my asking about how to get my MIL to stop driving!!!LOL Great reading though, I love all the different opinions!|
Gail/Toronto! Where are you? I want to hear about your pet peeve!!LOL
Lynn, you had better go back to your bank to re-assess your account. You may be eligible for an account with no service charges.|
I pay NOTHING to access my account at the ATM; use the debit card, withdraw or deposit $, or use a cheque for payment, or pay online. I am of a "certain age" and the bank automatically switched my account. I don't use my debit card to buy a coffee. That's just silly. But, if I want to go food shopping, and also need some cash, many supermarkets (and Walmart) will ask if you want cash back when using a debit card. Then you don't need an extra trip to the bank. There is no charge. I don't know who pays for it. Probably the store, to entice you to shop there.
It is rant day.|
When adults let their kids push the electric door-opener at the YMCA (instead of opening the door by pushing it. Let the people who really need touse an opener use it) I say to the kids, "Let's use less energy, it is cheaper to open the door yourself."
When drivers park and keep the motor going I stare at them unless there is an elderly person in the car who might need the heat or air cooling.
Reading about all the things that people do wrongly with regard to traffic, driving, cycling, texting, eating junk food, do you think there is a conspiracy to decimate the world population?|
Seriously, although I reckon I am a reasonable driver, I already try to drive during the day, avoid driving when there is no real reason for it, plan my journeys so that I go up town on the right and return the other way on the the right. I a;ways made sure I plan my menues to have enough food to keep me going for a reasonable time.
I have now resigned my directorship in a non-profit as it means driving out of town during the dark, which can include rain, snow, wind etc. and unfamiliar roads. I don't text and when giving people a lift I request them not to chatter to me. I would hate to cause inury or death to anyone and have that on my conscience for the rest of my life.
I costs me nothing to pay $1 items with my credit card but going to the bank machine does cost me fees.|
The banks make billions in profits and get subsidies, what a racket!
And then they fill up the aisles with all those stupid cardboard displays that are ready to tip over and pallets to make it harder to get by.|
And then my grocery cart grabs those stupid hanging displays and drags them down.
And then they put the food items on sale at the end of an aisle or in a totally unrelated area
so we can't find them.
Like putting the cans of soup in the produce section or putting the other cans in the meat section
or put the cheeze way way away and so on. I went to buy a TV at superstore at 8 am and the clerk said they were sold out last night BEFORE the sale started the next morning!
Now who bought the TV's at full price just before the sale started??? employees?
Grocery carts are so big some are hard to steer, but between the store aisles and the parking lot, it can be a challenge. Haili, you had me laughing about the "gatherings", yes, 50 years of things to catch up on in the canned goods aisle. Must agree on the debit card thing too. I am astounded to see people use them for anything under 5 dollars but it happens all the time. Young and old, and I have to wonder how many of these people are paying $12.95 a month for the privilege of accessing their own money with the card instead of taking out cash every week and knowing what you spend.I often think that I am so out of step with society. I pay cash, rarely use the card. I am so appalled at bank profits so I am not paying fees to use my money and make banks even richer. Great if you own bank stock but not great for the average person. end of rant|
CORRIE Agreed that Roy cannot process Haley's request yet. I understand her POV and Roy's reaction. Very real dilemma.
David -- down and out? is this the wake up call? Does he have the insight to understand that the destruction was so calculated and ongoing people have every right to consider him a monster? It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I am really not sure if D has the capacity to be change. Eva is a bit high and mighty considering her history with Nick and her intentions. I thought that last week was very good- the stories, the acting (even Jack/David was not bad -- scene with Roy and the vicar, still mouth agape but better IMO).
Gail I read your post way down there and I'm surprised no one else commented.|
I too found Hayley selfish and so annoying in pressuring Roy instead of letting him
mull over her death plans. She was like a brat.
Now on top of having to deal with losing her, he's lost the good memories.
My rant is about store employees who hold a conference in the middle of an aisle blocking people from getting by especially people with shopping carts. This happens so frequently that last Friday I walked up to three employees and asked them point blank if they could hold their *important* meeting somewhere else as they were blocking traffic. Sheesh!
Yes Joanne what's up with those brats who scream like a high pitch whistle.|
And what about that brat who sat in the Popes chair and kept tugging at this clothes.
I was so scared of my Dad that I never dared do any of those things.
Now it's negotiate this and that with a 2 year old.
On TV I saw a kid spit on an old man and the mother says did the old man scare you? and she hugs the boy.
To add to the grocery store rants...|
The moron or moronness who abandons a little hand basket with a few items on the floor and who returns and accuses me of stealing their spot.
Or like Leah said those who run back and forth from the cashier for items they forgot.
I once had a big barney with a lady who was stealing my groceries from the belt before the cashier could get to them because she forgot to get items herself.
No Haili, we have to yell: You're blocking the exit! over and over till they move.
Shirley good for you for seeing the negative outcome of David's marriage breakdown.
Corrie Gail and Leanne are so sanctimonious in not wanting David's marriage to work because all their marriages and relationships failures.
|Leah: Sorry, I repeated your beef ... didn't mean to pre-empt you. Agree, of course. I have my debit card out as soon as I get to the line-up and would never think of using it for tiny transactions ... as you say, everyone has change in their pocket for small purchases. I don't have much patience with standing in line unecessarily and I have been known to walk away and leave it all behind if the cashier or the customer takes forever and there's seemingly no end in sight. I DO return any frozen food to the appropriate storage before I leave, however.|
Monique: I LOVED your retort about Montreal pedestrians vis-a-vis moose jumping out on the road. So funny. Here on the Island, we have some very tiny deer which I understand were imported from offshore generations ago. They amaze me because they actually wait on the verge for traffic to pass until it's all clear from them to cross the highway. They have more sense than most pedestrians!|
Amazing that so many of us here share the same beefs and concerns about traffic, cars, cyclists, pedestrians, people blocking aisles and passage et al. Guess there are rude, thoughtless and careless people everywhere, and although I am officially a "senior", some of the biggest offenders are older folk of my generation plus or minus whom I would think were raised differently and better than the way they behave now.
That's exactly why I do any errands early in the morning when stores are just opening and before all the crowds get there, so I can get easy parking, quiet shopping, no aisle blockers, no screaming kids whose parent just stands there and does nothing, and no people who suddenly remember they're supposed to pay for their groceries and finally get their wallet or debit/credit card out about the time the store assistant is wheeling their trolley out to the parking lot. That way I keep my blood pressure and my temper under control! It ain't easy!
|My biggest supermarket rant isn't determined by age. It's anyone who, after checkout has started, decides to leave the line and go back down the aisles looking for something they forgot. Also, as a cash customer, I'm annoyed by people who either don't know how to use their debit cards, can't remember their PINS, or use them for something that costs $1.95. Who the heck doesn't even carry two bucks? As you might have guessed, I don't 'do' lines very well, especially when delays are avoidable.|
|OFF TOPIC Agree with all the driving "rants". Some of the outrageous videos I've seen on people attempting to merge on a freeway and some of them turning the wrong way doing so in traffic ( in Europe somewhere I think) boggle the mind. In fog it's terrifying, worrying you'll have some nutter driving too fast for conditions coming up behind you. Same thing with snow + ice, people following too close. We should all take care out there, it'll keep us safe and our insurance rates down.ON TOPIC I wish David's marriage could be saved for Max, etc.'s sake.|
|Don't get me started on grocery store rants! How about the woman with the giant stroller that hits you in the ankle at the check out? They use them like snow plows! Then there are the seniors (usually men or couples) who have old home week in the middle of the aisles? Or moments of meditation at buffets while your food cools? Some people - regardless of age - are just oblivious to other people. I hate it when people stop at the top of an escalator or just outside doors or block store aisles, causing me to detour around the other end of the aisle. Maybe we all need to be more patient and watch out for others.|
To add to Hey Jude's and others' beef...|
then the automatic door tries to guillotine me because of those seniors who park themselves outside the exit door.
Or the seniors who stop right at the top of the escalator wondering where they are going or starting a conversation with another senior
and we are pilling up and tripping over them as the escalator is pushing more people into the pile.
They need to have NO stopping signs at the top of the escalators or an automatic MOVE voice or buzzer if they park themselves there.
Then there's the women (I never saw a man do this) who park their grocery carts diagonally across the aisle while holding on to it with one arm stretched and to be sure we can't get by they position their huge bums to make sure there is absolutely no room.
I don't like it when we miss the left turn arrow because of a driver who is too busy texting and the police for not enforcing the traffic laws.
Other then that I'm doing fine...
This meme is going the rounds on fb today. I thought a few here might enjoy it:|
|Daphne: What bothers me about some older people with their shopping carts is when I am behind them coming out of the grocery store, and as soon as they step out the door, they stop! Wham! Right where I'm walking to check their grocery bills, because they are sure they are being ripped off!!LOL I get so infuriated when that happens, I just feel like telling them "to get a life!!"!LOL|
Wasn't that typical of David, when he saw Roy, who has a dying wife, he went on and on about his own woes. Not sure how Gail can tell him not to come home but maybe Kylie has a right to kick him out as it is their only home and she has the children. So glad to see his chickens come home to roost and will be interested to see how it plays out.|
I thought Hayley was a bit unreasonable expecting Roy to take her ideas on board in an instant when she has been thinking about it for some days. She wants him to understand her but is not giving thought to understanding where he is coming from. "Right dear, your off are you, I'll just light the candles and get the book you want me to read" Like he is seeing her off at the train station or something. Roy needs time to process this. I found Friday's episode riveting. Eva seems to have forgotten that she was instrumental in Nick's not marrying Leanne and is all holier than thou with Kylie. She may not be aware that David had given Kylie marching orders so I won't count that against her. Eva wouldn't have slept with her brother in law - she only sleeps with her mother's ex boyfriend!
|I forgot to mention in my driving rant, the bicycle clubs who ride 2 abreast on 2 lane country roads, making it hard to pass, and those rallies where traffic is held up or diverted. If bike riders want to hog the road the least they can do is pay licence fees like car drivers.|
|Well said Haili - just because we are seniors does not necessarily mean we are all losing our marbles. I would say we are one of the safer groups of drivers and I am more alert than some nut with a phone glued to their ear. I would be lost without my car because I have interests outside the home several times a week and I would hate to be asking people to give me a ride all the time. Aside from idiots driving while on the phone one of my pet beefs is people coming out of the store with their shopping carts, when you stop to let them cross, and they then proceed on a long gradual angle to cross the road ahead of you.|
Moving is complete. I have not read all the entries from the past few days so sorry if I missed something or am repetitive of a point already made.|
1) Happy Birthday Plaid cat (I love your name btw)
2) Drivers, cyclists, pedestrians: my view -- too much texting, talking and distracted actions while they should be concentrating. I have seen a person texting on a bicycle -- no one seems to have sense about using the city streets anymore, pedest. charge toward a corner and do not even look to see if there is traffic (headphones on and cannot hear it either; drivers -- I will stir the pot, my observation with Halifax drivers, sorry to those who are offended, feel free to tell me why I am wrong, WORST drivers on the roads here: young women (16-40) and older men (over 70ish)-- I seen some of the worst things and 9/10 times it is one of those two groups, exceptions of course
3) DAVID - the words hoist and petard come to mind -- cannot say that I am sad to see him get the cold shoulder from the entire family
There's letters seal'd: and my two schoolfellows,
Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd,
They bear the mandate; they must sweep my way
And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petar'; and 't shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon: O, 'tis most sweet,
When in one line two crafts directly meet. Or I can go with the less literary and much loved phrase from Nelson on the Simpsons: HAHA.
Leeann -- with her record, and her little side trip to see Peter, her self righteousness is pretty rich indeed Should be an interesting week ahead.
Stairs are a hit. Chasing one another has a whole new dimension when there are stairs. They are doing very well. I am here, their stuff is here, they have each other and now stairs. Life is good. Unpacking will take time :-)
Monique: That's pretty much what I heard, apart from the mumbly-bumbly!LOL :)|
Leah: I think my MIL has the same general attitude, and it's so ridiculous. With my MIL's luck, she'd probably pass the written test with flying colours, not too sure about the driving test though. She can only walk at a snails pace with a cane, I can't see how her reflexes are any good at having to stop all of a sudden. I am sure she'll cause an accident one of these days, I just pray to God she doesn't injure or kill anyone.
Haili: I totally hear you!
Leah: thanks for the Geo. Gently info. There's a lot to that program and more plot twists than most but I enjoy it. I tried to get into The Paradise but so far find it complicated and harder to understand what's going on and maybe it's the accents or I get it mixed up with Mr. Selfridge. The lead actors look quite similar.|
As for Corrie, I used to watch again on Sunday but lately haven't bothered as much, especially the scenes with Roy and Hailey.
Off topic to Haili. I watched George Gently again, and now understand why the woman's son kidnapped the baby. He'd been trying to talk his mother into letting him be part of his birth parent's lives, but she wouldn't allow it because she thought her husband wouldn't like it. He took the child to hurt her husband, but he never intended to harm the baby. He was also the one who left the bear outside their house to remind his mother of him. She had made it for him when he was adopted out.|
I agree about age not being the only reason people don't obey the rules of the road. Even when he was young, my father broke a lot of them and there were people who wouldn't ride with him. His theory of driving was that all the other drivers had brakes and it was their job to use them at the appropriate time. He even drove drunk from time to time (like when he drove up onto a safety island). He was just one of those lucky people who got away with things. Lots of other people were lucky too, because he never hurt anyone.
|Driving beefs: tail gaters who ride my bumper when I'm making a sharp turn into a complex with little kids playing on the road; teen agers who saunter as slowly as possible while crossing roads in front of cars; people behind who honk horns while I wait for pedestrians to cross instead of mowing them down; bicycle riders who never heard of stop signs, pass on the right, disregard most traffic rules, etc.; people on cell phones texting and looking down instead of where they're going; people who don't signal; speeders in parking lots. There are so many to choose from so please give seniors a break unless they really are a hazard.|
Monique, thank you for the information about what David said.|
Plaid Cat, I envy your being able to get Shaw. My relatives who live in Edmonton and Saskatoon have it and it seems to be much better than what we get here.
|Happy Birthday JudyQ. Hope you have a great day.|
|Thank you everyone for the nice birthday wishes. Sorry Shirley I have lost the phone numbers for you and Daphne. Well I am sure they are in my condo somewhere, but not sure where. My e-mail is above. Hey Jude, my ex-husband's Grandpa was 86 yrs old when he bought a new car - it had turbo. Not needed, he drove too fast and had arthritis in his hands and arms. He passed the written test no problem - there is no time limit and it scared us all to drive with him. My ex-husband "hinted" that maybe he should give up his license since his daughter lived next door. He was very offended that we would even suggest it. SO.... we phoned his Dr and spoke to him and his Dr recommended he re-do the drivers test - and the old fart failed. I am sure we saved his life and the lives of many that he would have mowed over doing 80 in a 60 and not even realized. !!!|
|David was going on about being persona non grata and having lost his wife and kids who mean everything to him and there's no chance of going back (I'm paraphrasing).|
|Shirley, I didn't understand David either. I guess he's another mumbler like Soapy. It reminds me of Henry Higgins' song in My Fair Lady: "Why don't the English teach their children how to speak?"|
|Happy Birthday Plaid Cat. I should've offered to have you come for a visit, interested? Have my number still? Anyway, hope you had a nice birthday. OFF TOPIC It's my grandson's birthday tomorrow. We'll likely go to his hockey game. SPOILER I'm looking forward to sleeping in an hour tomorrow with tonight's time change. I hope to be able to figure out what David said that I couldn't make out near the water with Roy. I know Roy said he was sorry to hear that ( that he hasn't a family anymore).|
Leah: It's exactly the same thing here. We have pedestrians who never look both ways as well as drivers. As a driver, I just have to be super alert and extra careful. I am amazed my MIL has not hit anyone yet. She's only been driving for 4 years after a 30 year hiatus - pretty scary, huh?|
Chrissy: Those old folks on the motorized scooters are pretty bad too. As far as they are concerned they own the roads and sidewalks!
Thanks to those who shared!
|Just had to put my 5 cents worth in regarding senior drivers and pedestrians and to mention those people riding on their motorized 'scooters'. They scare the daylights out of me by riding on the wrong side of the road but most of all they are so difficult to see especially if you're backing out from angle parking. Some of them have those red flags attached to the scooter but even so....|
|Several years ago my MIL had to take a written driving test for those over 80. She told us that she flunked, but they kept letting her write it over until she passed. Yikes. She's in a nursing home now, off the road, but it's a scary thought.|
|Monique and Hey Jude. Here in Toronto we have jay walkers too, but not like in Montreal. I spent a week there a couple of years ago and wondered how any pedestrians survived. Here, the younger people often hurry while jay walking, but the seniors just step out into the road anywhere they like and dawdle across. Grey power, I guess. Actually, I find that cyclists are the worst because many of them don't obey any laws at all. They ride on the wrong side of the road, weave in and out, etc, etc, etc. The only time they show any interest in the law is when one of them is hit by a car. Then they're out in force protesting and whining about car drivers having to share the road with them. It works both ways, cyclists, it works both ways.|
Hi Plaid Cat!|
Happy birthday! And best wishes for the entire year.
|PLAID CAT:- Hope you had a great birthday.|
|Joanne: I hear you! I see a lot of pedestrians do some pretty stupid things as well as drivers in general. I think because pedestrians "have the right of way", that they feel they can do anything. Jay-walking is THE WORST here.|
|Joanne, here everyone is a hazard on the road, whether they are drivers, pedestrians or cyclists. It would seem unfair to single out senior drivers. I love going for drives and, although that day is still far off in the future, would dread a day when I could be threatened with having my license taken away. I feel for seniors going through this. Here, pedestrians walk right in front of your car defiantly as if they're daring you. Sometimes they walk in front of your car deliberately slowly while they're glaring at you enjoying the power of making you stop. That's when I imagine they're a bowling pin and I'm a bowling ball waiting to bowl them over and I have to exercise restraint over my evil impulses and not run them over. Sometimes they walk right in front of your car in traffic just staring ahead as if they're completely oblivious and they don't even flinch if a car comes close to them. In Cape Breton when you leave a party it is customary for people to tell you to drive carefully and watch out for moose and deer. Once someone was telling me how sometimes deer will appear out of nowhere and jump in front of your car. I told him that we have the same problem in Montreal. He looked at me as if I was crazy and I said "They're called pedestrians".|
|Pearl: Nope, not here in the lower mainland. She took the vision test 2 years ago when she turned 80, so unless things have changed, I know for sure she didn't have to do the driving test. I've seen her drive, and it's scary (she drives way too fast), and I will never get into a car while she's at the wheel).|
Hey Jude: I erred, too, re: birthday wishes. Never mind, keep them for the proper day when I shall probably miss it!|
Continuing: If you lived here, you'd want all drivers of any age to be tested for eye-sight (apparently very few can "see" stop signs, speed limits, school zones signs, yellow lines, amber or red lights, no-passing zones and such), reflexes (because they'll need good ones to counteract their tail-gating habits), and general driving ability (because many of them seem to have got their licenses from sending in a cereal box-top).
Haili: Thank you! Like you, I do errands early, don't drive at night, and self-monitor while driving. As is mandatory in B.C., earlier this year I had to undergo the first "medical" via my GP as required under law. This has to be done every two years after anyone reaches 80, and the doctor will have the right to recommend whether or not the person may continue to drive or undergo further tests depending on cognizance, eye-sight, reflexes, etc. As well, for the past 20 years, I've had an eye-test every year (and I have excellent vision!) "just to make sure". It's easy for those who don't have to face giving up their freedom and driving licences to suggest public transport, bicycling and the like, but it's not always convenient for many seniors, especially those who live alone and have no family nearby to help out, or where public transport is scarce and unreliable.
I'd like to see mandatory vision and aptitude "exams" for pedestrians who step off curbs without looking, amble across unmarked roads in heavy traffic, ditto on marked crossings while the red signal is flashing "time up" and cars are trying to turn left, walk two, three and four abreast on their morning strolls without moving into single file when a car comes, especially on the winding roads where I live, AND glare at me when I stop out of courtesy to let them walk on so that I don't have to move out over two yellow lines to pass them and risk being hit by potential oncoming traffic, who stand in groups having a lovely chat in the middle of the traffic lane, or let their dogs' extendable leashes out so far that their pet is in the middle of the traffic lane ... and as a senior driver, *I'm* a possible danger on the road? I happily and courteously share the road with pedestrians, why won't they share with me? Although I guess you couldn't take their "walking licence" away, could you? :-) Rant over.
|Happy Birthday, Plaid Cat! Enjoy yourself today!|
|Sorry Hey Jude, I did mean Plaid Cat Plaid Cat I hope you have a lovely day.|
|*~* Happy Birthday Plaid Cat ♥ Enjoy your special day‼ *~*|
Hi Hey Jude, I understand why you are ff through Roy & Hailey scenes but if the intensity of this storyline keeps up til January there will be pressious little of Corrie for you to watch. Surely the actors will need a respite from all the dialogue and emotions before then. Agree with others that Hailey could have started with hints of how she feels about dieing to ease Roy into the subject. She did drop it like a brick.|
Regarding getting someone to stop driving when they don't want to can be very tricky. From past experience with my husband, first stroke - no driving for a year, then two years later dementia diagnosis it was a struggle both times. Taking the keys away - bad idea in our case. Where he would not listen to family what the doctor said did register. If your M I L lives in BC there is a requirement for people 80 and over to take a driving test. If she can pass that then she is legally ok to drive.
|Technically Leanne wasn't married to Nick at the time but still, close enough!|
|Joanne, Leanne is Eva's half sister and I guess it's the blood is thicker than water thing. Kylie slept with Eva's sister's husband. She's feeling the family loyalty.|
|Happy Birthday to all the birthday people!|
Seniors driving is a sensitive subject and I wish people would be more patient. Giving up driving is giving up your independence and being able to go places whenever you want without asking someone or waiting for taxis etc. I thought about giving it up before I bought my car a couple of years ago but it's just too far to walk to the bus stop. Walking is great if people are able but when they have leg problems driving is the best option. I try not to go out during rush hour, shop in the morning through the week etc. and don't drive far after dark and most seniors I know do the same. My brother had his keys and car taken away last week and I don't know how he's going to manage unless he moves but he was a hazard to himself and others and the doctor told him to stop. Let's hope we all know when the time is right but it's not an easy decision.|
I don't know when Hailey is leaving the show but much as I like the character and the actress, I hope it's soon as this story line is very depressing. I agree that if she is going to do herself in she shouldn't have told Roy but I suppose she didn't want it to come as a shock. If she does it she should do it herself and not involved anyone else.
|Sharon: That's great that your parents knew it was time and that you didn't have to coax them to quit. I know the guys here just don't want to "deal" with it, as I've seen her fly off the handle when even a hint of discussion is mentioned and she feels everyone is ganging up on her. My MIL lives 5 minutes from a shopping area as well, banking, grocery store, etc, she even has her hairdresser making home visits to her, which is really nice of the hairdresser, but I mean, she just doesn't need her van. She says she only goes out in the mornings when traffic isn't heavy!!!LOL HELLO! This is Vancouver: traffic is heavy ALL the time, and lots of kids are out walking to school, etc. I told my SIS it'll be an issue when she has an accident, not "if".|
Hey Jude - your post really hits home for me. Both my parents are 82. My Mother stopped driving years ago when she started to experience the odd dizzy spell. My Father drove up until last year and I was so relieved when they decided to get rid of the car! I worried all the time as his mind is starting to wander. They get a free bus pass from the City and yes, the money they save on gas and insurance and maintenance is more than enough for taxi fare throughout the year.|
They live about a 15 minute walk from a little mall that has everything they need...grocery store, bank, pharmacy, Dentist, hair salon, etc.
I'm just lucky I didn't have to convince them! Speaking of them I am going to spend the day with them and make a big pot of pasta sauce and meatballs...bake a cake too! Their house will smell good for sure!
Have a wonderful day all
|I couldn't hear much of what David was saying as he talked to Roy on that bench. I got the impression he said something that made Roy think and go back to Hayley. What was it?|
Happy Birthday, Plaid Cat!
JeanF: Thanks but it's not my birthday! I guess you meant PC!|
I couldn't watch much of Roy and Hayley, just enough to know what she told Roy her plan would like to be. After that I FF'd it. It's a very hot button topic, and although I realize how Hayley is feeling, she picked the worst time to tell Roy about it. I suppose that is also her way of dealing with it - that it's going to be her way or the highway. *WAY OFF TOPIC**: My Sis in law has told me she has given up trying to convince her mother to give up driving - says she is not getting any support from her brothers (1 of whom is my husband). There are already scratches and dents from her trying to navigate around a pillar in her underground garage (a sure sign). She has tried everything, including guilt tripping her in to thinking about how she would feel if she hit or killed a pedestrian. Nothing has worked, has anyone out there got any ideas? The woman is 82, has great eyesight, but with a new hip, I'm not sure her reflexes are what they should be. Most sensible people know when it's time to hang up the keys, but this stubborn old mule just won't even consider it, even when she's been told the money she'd save on insurance would more than help pay for taxi's or other modes of transport. She says she "only goes to the store and back, and am very careful". Yes, but it doesn't matter if it's 500 yards or 5 feet, she could still have an accident, and she just doesn't seem to be "getting it". Has anyone else had to deal with a parent who won't give up driving, and if so, how did you get them to stop? I think seniors should also not only have eye tests to renew their licenses, but reflex tests too. I watched a woman last week take 10 minutes to get out of a parking space - it was just unbelievable and she wasn't driving a big car. Sorry for the rant.
Hey Jude: Really sorry that I missed your birthday. Hope it was a wonderful day with many more to come.|
Happy Birthday to Plaid Cat and all others coming up in the next few days. I'm dreadful with birthdays, especially on here where I forget to look at the posting, so it has to be a general "Happy Birthday to Everyone", but the good wishes are nonetheless sincere. (I even have to write down and look up birthdays for family and friends, which is shocking, and it's not "old age" ... I've always had a mental block about birthdays! Have to agree ... the episode last night was so touching in so many ways, I kept thinking how much I'll miss Hayley and what a huge gap she'll leave behind. Also agree that she was being very "concentrated" on her decision and didn't really listen to Roy's side of things, but it would be a very difficult thing for both sides to discuss such a decision with people who love you. My sons wouldn't even discuss the family "stuff" they might want when I pop my clogs, and kept dodging the issue, so I'll let them sort it out for themselves when the time comes. My senior d.i.l says that's because they don't want to think of my "going", and mine won't be anywhere near as dramatic or tough as will Hayley's. Great acting from both David and Julie.
Didn't understand Eva going off at Kylie and breaking off the "friendship" just because Kylie kept her personal problems to herself, which was surely her right, but then I've never liked Eva, anyway.
Adore Fiz and Tyrone ... so glad they're together at last and hope it stays so. And Liz ... well, the whole street brightened up now that she's back. Down to earth, straightforward, "says it like it is" Liz. Hope she's back for good. Not too excited about Todd returning ... never thought he added much to the Street, but perhaps that will change. Ineresting to see the new "Corrie Street" site and the addition of the new street(s) to the area. Hope that means some more new families interacting (no pun intended), and that the writers can get away from all the recycling of old themes.
Agree that it would be nice to have Steve back to "normal mode" and not the wimpy "Yes, Michelle" whiner pulling a silly face character that he's been turned into. I want to yell at him to "Stand up for yourself" and for him to have someone better for his romantic partner. And please let Michelle go away forever and ever ... she's always shouting at someone or complaining about something and nothing is ever good enough for her.
Now going off to remind myself that this IS a soap opera and none of it is real, except that it's always so well done that it SEEMS real.
|I'm surprised at how selfish Hayley is being. I would have thought that she would be far more considerate of Roy's feelings. I realize that she doesn't want to suffer, she wants to be in control of her death. She has to try to put herself in Roy's position and consider how he feels about it and give him some time to come around to the idea if need be. It's a lot to take in, he's hardly going to say *OK, fine with me then!*. If he has time to think about it he might come to understand and agree but she expects him to just go along with her.|
|Hope you have a lovely Birthday Plaid Cat|
|Plaid Cat: Hope you have a wonderful Birthday!|
Happy Birthday Hey Jude! I hope you have a wonderful day.|
As to the story about Hayley and Roy, even though I believe in the right to die with dignity I don`t think she should have told him about it; she could have left him a note and spared him the aqony of wondering when she was going to end things and spoiling the time they had left together..especially since he went to so much trouble in Blackpool to give her a lovely time I think she should just have kept her decision to herself and not worried him. I don`t think this is something she should have expected him to agree with her about. A few years ago aa boyfriend of mine was diagnosed with terminal cancer and he told me that if the pain got to be too bad he would use the gun he owned to take matters in his own hand. It bothered me to know that but nobody wanted him to suffer so we just put it in the back of our minds. In the end he suffered a massive heart attack and never had to put his threat into action but it was an unpleasant thought to know he was thinking of it. Hayley is asking a lot if she thinks Roy is going to stay beside her and read her into eternity I think.
I hope this won't sound insensitive. I don't know how I'd feel in their place. Hayley is focussed on what she wants in these last weeks and I suppose she has the right to go as she pleases. However, Roy will be the one who is left to grieve for years. It's a death for both of them. I understand how he feels and that he wants a say in how it happens. Maybe Hayley could be a little more understanding as well. She dropped her plan on him like a brick right after they'd had a wonderful time in Blackpool and during a working day when there were bound to be interruptions. No wonder poor Roy's emotions were all over the place.|
The storyline and the acting are so great that it makes me realize even more how much I'll miss Hayley.
|SPOILER Excellent acting with Roy and Hayley had me crying when she left for Fizz's. Roy tried so hard to see her view, but can only support just so far at this point. Hayley is thinking very clearly about what her mind would probably do near the end causing hurtful dreams about early years of her life that were upsetting to her. The scene of Roy with David was good but I missed a lot of what David said.|
|Very good show tonight. I know the Hayley & Roy storyline is rather depressing, but I can not believe how good the acting is. I know David Neilson ( spelling?) has already won an award for the acting, but I see many more in both actors futures. I can see how Roy on one hand wants to support Hayley but also his love for her he does not want to let her go.|
Leah: I confess to being an old fart too! I get tired and like to watch TV in bed so it's no wonder I fall asleep a lot.|
Tonight's Corrie was very well done - but depressing. The acting was great and very touching and I liked the scene with David and Roy. I'd forgotten that Roy thought about suicide once when Tracy was so nasty and mean to him re. Amy. I know the topic of assisted suicide is interesting to many but it seems unfair to want someone else to help with it. If Hailey wants to do it she should do it on her own but I suppose she was giving Roy a warning so it wouldn't be such a shock when the time comes.
In tonight's episode, David Platt and Roy Cropper became unlikely friends as they contemplated their troubled lives. The scene showing the pair sitting on a park bench was filmed in August. See the photos and read the article in the Mail Online.
BTW, Rob Ford has not visited Jack P. Shepherd's smoking den, as far as I know. ☺